A slight distraction
Originally Posted by IQuestion
Since this thread is about the 911 call, and everyone reacts to an emergency differently, courts do compare the actions of an individual to the actions of a PRUDENT PERSON. How many times has it been asked in court, "Are these the actions of a prudent person?" So, I am going to present a scenario to you and ask yourselves..."What would a prudent person do?": A recent visitor to California walks out of his bungalow, to get a cup of coffee at the clubhouse. As he/she walks across the courtyard, notices a body floating face down in the swimming pool. Not only floating face down, but also has their feet tied together, and their hands bound behind their back! DOES A PRUDENT PERSON CALL 911? Yes, of course. DOES A PRUDENT PERSON ANNOUNCE TO THE 911 OPERATOR,"I got a boy, drowned himself."
"I got a boy, drowned himself."
Really, IQuestion, how does a drowning suicide compare and contrast to RZN's nude hanging suicide. I realize that you are mocking AS in the 911 call but, "drowned himself"? <respectfully snipped>
So strange to "quote myself" but the above comment leads into what I ultimately want to say. DS asked, "Why didn't Rebecca make the 911 call herself?" BECAUSE REBECCA WAS PERFORMING THE ACTIONS OF A PRUDENT PERSON! Rebecca was performing CPR and tending to the needs of the injured child. <respectfully snipped>
Not so fast, IQuestion. The #1 post in the CFD EMT/Paramedic Report thread created by Salem on 09/25/2012:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=185755
You, IQuestion, boldly yet erroneously stated, as fact, the following:
Rebecca was performing CPR <snipped again>
No, IQuestion, no. Rebecca was not administering CPR to Max. You simply must stick with the facts and not be intentionally misleading. The link below is to the report of the Coronado Fire Dept. in response to the emergency call to the 1043 Ocean Blvd address that Salem posted 09/25/2012:
http://www.maxshacknai.com/wp-conten...CFD_Report.pdf
In the report by the Coronado Fire Dept. regarding their care and observations of Max, in the ninth sentence from the end of topic
History.
The report clearly states that no CPR was performed prior to their arrival on the scene.
This directly contradicts previous information that RZ was giving "rescue breaths" or CPR at any time prior to of the Paramedics/EMTs'. And do you know why it was impossible for RZN to administer CPR to Max? It's also listed in the Coronado Fire Dept. report under topic
Physical Exam. It is documented that CFD arrived on the scene at 10:16 and their assessments began by 10:18.
Disclaimer: times may be approximate as stated on the report This is what they found.
Physical Exam
Head: Noted blood in airway and pooling airway secretions.
It is strictly my reasonable conclusion and only my opinion that Rebecca could not and did not give any rescue breaths to Max due to the blood, vomit, and other secretions accumulating in his passageways. Medical staff could not do it either. They could not secure an airway for this broken child because of the continual need for suctioning out his fluids. Rebecca could not give any rescue breaths to Max due to the body fluids, blood, vomit, and other secretions that were steadily accumulating in his passageways and filling up his tiny mouth. So, did Rebecca lie about performing any CPR type actions by claiming that she did? How is that for prudence?
The proper form for administering CPR is to clear the patient's airway first. She didn't do it because she would have said there was a blockage preventing her from doing so. No puffs. No rapid breaths of air. There was no room in his small mouth for the air from her puffs or CPR attempts. There was no room because his tiny body's passages were filling with mixed fluids.
This small child may not have been pronounced dead until days later; however, Max was not breathing when medical help arrived at 10:16. Max was already turning blue from lack of oxygen. That's what cyanosis is. His brain was swelling from the fracture in his skull. His pupils were fixed and dilated. This was caused by his TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury). Max was "flatline". That is what asystole means. His heart did not have electrical currents. Max was pulseless which essentially means that he was experiencing cardiac arrest. If others have told you otherwise, direct them to the CFD EMT/Paramedic Report Post #1 so they can learn the truth.
BTW
I noticed in photos that apparently the medics loaded by lightly lifting and sliding Maz's battered body onto a product so he could be moved from the area where his body was located upon CFD's arrival. There is a pic to prove it. The experts may have already figured this one out and I missed finding the posts.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=26869&d=1348436054
Notice under the small arrow in the middle of the screen. Under that arrow is where the medics worked their skills on Max. The clues are the plastic strewn on each side of the path made by where Max was laying. The path has discarded trash and plastic from the varied apparatus, iv lines, etc. tossed on each side.
Notice further, to the far left in the photo, locate the first-floor newel post attached near the first riser. Max's head was alongside and near the staircase almost even with the first-floor newel post. His head was toward the door when medics arrived. His feet were toward the wall. That small space is crowded. The scooter's wooden footboard and back wheel of the scooter was atop his leg. The shattered 30"w chandelier was near his left shoulder. One of the medics moved the chandelier so he could access Max.
His tiny body must have been carefully moved a short distance, still head first, into the open area and closer to the front door exit as the medics continued their many good works. That is what the trail of discarded plastic from medical supplies says to me in this photo. Max was transported to the nearest hospital within 14 minutes after emergency medical help originally arrived.
MOO & OMO unless linked to credible sources
