A view from the inside: observations from our own court observers #2

[katiecoolady]

More attentive? I am getting nervous. I'm getting CA jury flash backs.

Sorry if I seem a little irritating. I know you're there and I'm not and you see things we don't. But what if they believe her? What if?

I meant they got more attentive when JM got up to do his voir dire. Did I misread your question? I'm multi tasking here.

I think there is a collective PTSD going on from the Anthony case. I addressed it last night on the radio show (maybe that would help your symptoms?).

Listen I sat through TWO death penalty trials in THIS state, both resulting in convictions/death sentences and this case has more strong evidence than either of ours did.

 

[FrizzyKK]

I didn't see him but I wasn't looking over there either.

on one of the support JA websites they are quoting that she is wanting everyone to know what BC is saying is not true. etc...so not sure if it is real but they want us to think she knows.:banghead:

 

[PASA]

Her face fell as she said "no I wasn't" to the question if she was his gf on 6/4/2008.

Afternoon 10 min break.

I speak to Jeff Gold who says the only reason that dvd came in was because this is a DP case. That makes me sick...one of the MANY ways "the worst of the worst" of our culture get preferential treatment. :furious:

On the break I gave Beth our gift/card and a card from me. I know she's busy doing stuff during breaks so only spoke with her briefly but she opened the gift and loved it and said she would wear it this week on the air! She was very appreciative. I will post a pic (A News Junkie I need you!) I snapped before I wrapped it so you can look for it. Yes I am that much of a nerd.

Jeff Gold said the "rape" comment coming in via the "Greatest Hits" dvd could qualify JM for a recross.

Is Jeff Gold the guy who I thought was Dr. Drew producer? Tall, think, salt-pepper hair, takes lots of notes?

That is so kind of you. I'm sure Beth was touched and appreciative.

 

[katiecoolady]

Is Jeff Gold the guy who I thought was Dr. Drew producer? Tall, think, salt-pepper hair, takes lots of notes?

That is so kind of you. I'm sure Beth was touched and appreciative.

Yes that describes him...I just saw him on HLN just now (but I think I'm watching from today...I don't know what I"m watching right now lol).

Dr. Drew producer is also tallish, salt and pepper but he's a lot cuter. Just keepin it real. and he doesn't take notes that I've seen.

 

[Ricki]

Katie...Great job.
Question: do you member what content was in front and after these words written in her journal. I am drawing a blank.
"kill all that is not serving me...eradicate..." (from JA's journal--THREE of us wrote that down when we compared notes after court)

"the darkness I feel is because of myself" TRUE!!

 

[katiecoolady]

on one of the support JA websites they are quoting that she is wanting everyone to know what BC is saying is not true. etc...so not sure if it is real but they want us to think she knows.:banghead:

well let's just consider THAT source.

 

[KBisMe]

on one of the support JA websites they are quoting that she is wanting everyone to know what BC is saying is not true. etc...so not sure if it is real but they want us to think she knows.:banghead:

That guy is cracked! Wasn't he just on Dr. Drew last week giving a "message" from Jodi saying that she's telling the truth now?

Now his response is that she's telling stories to protect herself and her family from the ninjas? Story #2 is the truth?

I don't believe a word out of that guys mouth.

 

[katiecoolady]

Katie...Great job.
Question: do you member what content was in front and after these words written in her journal. I am drawing a blank.
"kill all that is not serving me...eradicate..." (from JA's journal--THREE of us wrote that down when we compared notes after court)

"the darkness I feel is because of myself" TRUE!!

It wasn't read but it was on the screen underneath what was being read...during the last part today of her journal being read about the LOA and suicide stuff.

Cuz there are 10000 screens all over the place we could all see it plain as day and at least 3 of us wrote it down as we talked briefly in the hall after court. I couldn't stay and happy hour it as I had to rush back to work but it was a BOMBSHELL I think just because we all noted it.

 

[MeeBee]

I meant they got more attentive when JM got up to do his voir dire. Did I misread your question? I'm multi tasking here.

I think there is a collective PTSD going on from the Anthony case. I addressed it last night on the radio show (maybe that would help your symptoms?).

Listen I sat through TWO death penalty trials in THIS state, both resulting in convictions/death sentences and this case has more strong evidence than either of ours did.

I think I misread your answer, that's my fault. I did mean when he was cross examining her but your answer is still helpful. That makes sense, though, because that was the best part of the day.

I hope you're right! THANK YOU!!!!

 

[cubbeegirl]

First, I am so sorry and thank you for sharing your story. That gives me hope that we could be totally wrong in our worries of certain jurors too.


Second, there was trashing of a 13 year old victim??? Seriously??

Thank you.. and yes...because she had on bikini underwear with cherries on them...of all things...

 

[KBisMe]

Katie...Great job.
Question: do you member what content was in front and after these words written in her journal. I am drawing a blank.
"kill all that is not serving me...eradicate..." (from JA's journal--THREE of us wrote that down when we compared notes after court)

"the darkness I feel is because of myself" TRUE!!

I found it on one of my screen shots. It says, "I've got to douse my mind in some kind of mental Round-up, kill all that is not serving me, eradicate"

 

[katiecoolady]

Awwww I just got this note from Beth K:

Please pass on to all my wonderful supporters and fans at Websleuths my appreciation for the beautiful gift of turquoise jewelry. I love stones and crystals and will think of all of you every time I wear the necklace and earrings. Also, I can't express enough how touched I am by the emails I have received from so many of you across the country. I read and save each one. I can't respond to them all right now but trust that I do read them.

I look forward to chatting on air with Tricia in the future...

Keep following the Arias trial. I'll be there until the end.

Your friend,

Beth

 

[hindsight2020]

Let me just say this.

Juan Martinez gets the last word. He gets it while summing all of this up for the jury. This is a no brainer, to me. The evidence is crazy strong. Starting with the fact she's admitted this crime.

People I talked to thought he will take all dam day tomorrow to continue with this Sympathy Tour for JA which IMO is backfiring.

So to answer your question, as wearying/infuriating/shocking as this all is and horrible for the family to endure in this short term I continue with my one solid belief system.

This jury will convict Jodi Arias and sentence her to death.

Thank you Katie for the reassurance, there were some unbearable moments today, for a brief time I began to feel that PT had lost some ground made on cross.. I can't even begin to imagine what Travis' family must be going through, just when you thought the DT couldn't twist and stretch the lies any longer. I am hoping DT is done tomorrow, this is far beyond anything I could ever imagine.

 

[Ricki]

It wasn't read but it was on the screen underneath what was being read...during the last part today of her journal being read about the LOA and suicide stuff.

Cuz there are 10000 screens all over the place we could all see it plain as day and at least 3 of us wrote it down as we talked briefly in the hall after court. I couldn't stay and happy hour it as I had to rush back to work but it was a BOMBSHELL I think just because we all noted it.

Do you think Juan can or will use it?

 

[MeeBee]

Hopefully Martinez will get a re-cross since there is new evidence being admitted. He should also keep it short and sweet so as not to open up the door for another re-direct (don't know legal term!)

 

[atthelake]

Oh one more thing. Travis family friend today asked me if I was writing a book. I'm glad she asked me (so I could clarify) but it gave me a little feeling of heartbreak if people were wondering that about my furious note taking. She has a friend who lurks here who told her about me (shout out to you btw) so I explained where my notes were going and that I was also doing it to keep from blowing my stack in court.

I would never, EVER take advantage of this family by doing anything like that. My participation is just what you see it is. No other agenda whatsoever. In fact I'm wondering what to do with all my journals I'm taking notes on. Anyone want them? Tricia?

Perhaps..after the verdict... ask Samantha to get with the family and offer them the final decision of what they want done with your notes. And then do as his family wishes perhaps? that perhaps would show greatest respect for the family. who knows, then they may want you to keep them so that 5 years from now when they do 1 of those things on television, you can put in your words and be interviewed? I don't know, it maybe just a discussion for the family for you. karma brought you to this family the first day when there was a mix up with the seating. so I think there will be a karma at the end too.

MOO
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[looneymama]

Thank you so much for sharing your notes Katiecoolady, I think we were all feeling like the CEO today. My ADHD was kicking in big time today until of course that tape showed up. Then I literally just felt ill.

How creeped out was Katie by the Jodi stares? I bet she does stare at her because she's so pretty. Jodi wouldn't like that.

 

[FrizzyKK]

5 yrs ago my best friends 13, yr old daughter was murdered by her step-uncle.Over the course of the trial we noticed that one of the jurors seemed to be not paying attention and in fact seemed to be dozing off alot. During our lunch breaks we worried about him and fussed and said he needs to wake up and pay attention.
After the verdict was read another friend and I were leaving the courthouse together, he pulled up alongside us and offered his condolenses on our loss. He also told us that he had determined that the step-uncle was guilty based on the evidence presented and that he knew early on due to this evidence that he was guilty. He turned out to be a high school teacher. The step-uncle was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, plus hard labor. The DA opted not to go for first degree due to lack of DNA and was afraid he might lose the case entirely. I so wanted the death penalty for the monster who murdered our sweet Kaitlin.
I will never forget the words of the juror who spoke to us after the trial....He said...justice was not done in that courtroom today...justice will be done every morning for the rest of his life when he wakes up in his cell and knows why he is there and knows that he will never ever leave there alive...
I am hoping for a death penalty, but due to that sentiment I am ok with LWOP too...
Just goes to show you never ever know what a juror is thinking as we had him pegged as the one who wasnt even paying attention...turns out his first vote was guilty , and when the trashing of the victim even started in that jury room he was the one to shut it down...
Thanks Katie for your great reporting... I know it is draining to be in that courtroom...

I work at a prison for the worst of the worst of offenders, but no death row...however, the men that are living their sentence of Life without are doing just that, living without, solitary, no comforts and they get to live with the daily knowledge of where they are an why....no sympathy given...their needs are met but that is all...they earned that treatment, because of our location etc...they do not even get to have much contact with anyone or any family....I almost wish she would get that, she will not be performing for "american idol" if she does...no visitors...so from my perspective it seems living with her mind and memories will be some justice perhaps...

 

[Paintr]

I meant they got more attentive when JM got up to do his voir dire. Did I misread your question? I'm multi tasking here.

I think there is a collective PTSD going on from the Anthony case. I addressed it last night on the radio show (maybe that would help your symptoms?).

Listen I sat through TWO death penalty trials in THIS state, both resulting in convictions/death sentences and this case has more strong evidence than either of ours did.

Thank you kindly! You guys make me feel sooo much better. I have been worried that the DT and JA have been reaching the jury with some of their 'abused woman' claims. And they still have their DV expert witnesses to hammer it home.

I was amazed the judge allowed such leaway to the DT. And you are absolutely correct....CA's verdict knocked so many for a loop. Hopefully this jury is wiser.

Thank you kindly also for all your 'on the scene' reporting. Every time I see one of your posts, I remember the Scott Peterson trial. Time certainly does pass quickly!

 

[PASA]

5 yrs ago my best friends 13, yr old daughter was murdered by her step-uncle.Over the course of the trial we noticed that one of the jurors seemed to be not paying attention and in fact seemed to be dozing off alot. During our lunch breaks we worried about him and fussed and said he needs to wake up and pay attention.
After the verdict was read another friend and I were leaving the courthouse together, he pulled up alongside us and offered his condolenses on our loss. He also told us that he had determined that the step-uncle was guilty based on the evidence presented and that he knew early on due to this evidence that he was guilty. He turned out to be a high school teacher. The step-uncle was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, plus hard labor. The DA opted not to go for first degree due to lack of DNA and was afraid he might lose the case entirely. I so wanted the death penalty for the monster who murdered our sweet Kaitlin.
I will never forget the words of the juror who spoke to us after the trial....He said...justice was not done in that courtroom today...justice will be done every morning for the rest of his life when he wakes up in his cell and knows why he is there and knows that he will never ever leave there alive...
I am hoping for a death penalty, but due to that sentiment I am ok with LWOP too...
Just goes to show you never ever know what a juror is thinking as we had him pegged as the one who wasnt even paying attention...turns out his first vote was guilty , and when the trashing of the victim even started in that jury room he was the one to shut it down...
Thanks Katie for your great reporting... I know it is draining to be in that courtroom...

I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend's little girl. I hope he gets what he deserves in prison, in addition to the time he's serving.

I'm not worried about any of the jurors at this point. From my observations They pay attention when there is testimony worth listening to.
MOO