Now it's getting to the point where the discussion about the OT nature of this thread is becoming it's own OT discussion. lol It's like an MC Escher etching where reality just keeps reflecting in on itself. AndI just did it myself.
I think pretty much all the posts today are close to on topic to the observations with the exception of a turkey dinner thrown in. :moo:
Did you guys catch that Jodi filed a restraining order against the courtroom observer who got ejected from court yesterday? Please!!!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...70776896.54624.160510210691796&type=1&theater
Katiecoolady, are there specific jurors you'd be happy to see as alternates, not making it to deliberations? If you'd rather not say, I understand...Just curious..![]()
(PS: THANK YOU for all you do!)
I TOTALLY agree...from the beginning I have also thought that when JA'S mom laughs during court that she is not being disrespectful... I think that she is thinking:
"boy, her rebellious/hateful spirit finally caught up with her"
I really think her Mom thinks it was only a matter of time before Jodi's snotty behavior got the best of her ...at least this is what I would LIKE to think since I can't imagine (even as a mother) condoning that kind of sociopath behavior...from Jodi's testimony it sounds like she was a hard child to raise... (Can you imagine being dealt the sociopath child card?! Lol!)
Her Mom is doing what any other normal mom would do... loving her child unconditionally wether they are good or bad... Actually, if she wasn't there I would think less of her..
I can't imagine being in her shoes, I bet she's lost a lot of friends because of this...and during a time when she needs her friends most!
There is one thing that I think will hurt her: Jodi initially told her that Travis was on the computer masturbating to child *advertiser censored* on Jan 21. When they searched his computer, not a shred of child *advertiser censored* was found. So she changed her story and LV went with it, saying it was all a misunderstanding. I have very firm confidence that Juan will prove that it was not a misunderstanding and that she is covering for Jodi. He'll do it.
Katie,
I posted this earlier and wanted your thoughts on which juror you think asked this question and the jurors reactions to the answer, as I thought this threw his whole testimony out?
Juror question: since you didn't meet with jodi until Dec 2009, isn't it fair to say you cannot be sure she suffered from PTSD?
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I heard it too. What the he!! is he doing up there testifying? :what:
I dont believe one word from anyone on the defense team .How can they be truthful if everyword she says is a lie!
and the Juan brought it out that he met her in 2010 iirc . wow
She did try to plea to second degree murder with the threat of dragging Travis' name through the mud if the case went to trial. Juan refused and here we are.
According to Jeffrey Gold an attorney on Twitter, the protective order motion was to keep Defense Billings from being made public.
There is one thing that I think will hurt her: Jodi initially told her that Travis was on the computer masturbating to child *advertiser censored* on Jan 21. When they searched his computer, not a shred of child *advertiser censored* was found. So she changed her story and LV went with it, saying it was all a misunderstanding. I have very firm confidence that Juan will prove that it was not a misunderstanding and that she is covering for Jodi. He'll do it.
I heard from several members of the family and the VA that Samantha is handling donations and any monies go,to her to manage. She said to me in court "everything goes to the same place". They are aligned so I think either is safe. Tanisha or Sam address.
What do these abbreviations mean?
... On afternoon break. The VA talks to us about being more careful about our body language, passing the journal to each other, notes etc. She says the defense is complaining now and noticing EVERYTHING. This family is on lockdown there every minute in court. How stressful. In case you hadn't noticed I'm an expressive person and having to sit there observing this stuff stone faced is exhausting (and I'm not very good at it to be honest). Another reason to admire this family...
Katie,
Just wondering if Katie Wicke might be offered a job with HLN after the trial ends. My DH and I really like her and feel that she is doing a fine job as a court reporter on Dr. Drew. Katie is personable, bright, articulate, and very photogenic. She's confident, genuine, and a natural in her role...
I'm gonna see if it's possible to get a thread that's courtroom observations WITH discussion and one that is exclusively the observations extracted there (you may have to wait to get them over there by the mods but it would concentrate it to just that).
And just as my opinion, when you are getting something at no expense that a person like me, PASA, etc. are doing at our own expense and have no obligation whatsoever to take a note much less share it during our own time off, people might reconsider just what there is to "complain" about. And what is even owed. I know there have been court observers that have said to me "I don't even want to share my notes" because snotty remarks have been made about the timely manner or way they've been shared.
just keepin it real.
I heard J.K.on JAN today say JM faced off with her in a previous case and he ripped her apart.
Also...off topic but I have such a strong feeling TA thought JA had already left b4 he even got into that shower or said bye bye and then got in thinking she had left. He was NOT allowing those pics of his own free will. He was being forced at gun point imo. Has anyone else seen the close up of his right eye reflection when he's staring at the camera? It's really telling and I do see JA in his eye. Dr Drew was showing that video of TA retelling the burglary story and he, TA says he was trying with all his might through his "retinas" to make the screaming woman shut up...very spooky (for lack of a better word)
With all due respect, KCL, that was a bit harsh on the person who was also trying to keep it real for the many others here who love and appreciate the posts from the actual court observers in this thread ... that is exactly the appeal of this thread and why we come here.
She (or he, but most likely "she") was talking to the OT posters who make it difficult for the rest of us to find the relevant posts which this thread was set up for. I also spent hours scrolling through here looking for whatever you had to report from yesterday.
I understand the OT posters enjoying their own back & forth & back & forth etc., etc., etc., but you are the star of this thread and the reason we spend hours looking for your insights from inside the courtroom (and Happy Hour).
I'm just saying to the OT posters, please be considerate to others here. We are ALL glued to this case, and we ALL appreciate the relevant posts, and relevant responses, etc. But this particular day's thread got out of control.
We're all friends (I hope) and I also enjoy some off topic talk, but let's try to keep it in the proper threads. :truce:
So Juan has already been in a trial where LaViolette was an expert?????
What is JAN? Jodi Arias Network aka HLN???
Would love to JM crossing AV on youtube. Has Anyone been able to find any other televised trials of JM online or clips? Other than the Wendi Andriano case on snapped, id love to see him in action on another case.
I don't understand how one becomes a reputable 'expert' in anything if they've ever covered (lied) under oath..especially for a murderer...
How can she be highly regarded if she does this?!
I get that defense attorney's define success by racking up acquitted clients. (Proclaiming all were wrongly accused.. i.e. Jose Baez)
But shouldn't a DV expert be gravely concerned about her reputation when testifying for someone perpetrating violence, when there are pictures? Of double digit stab wounds to the back of his torso & back of his head? Jeez!!
Katie, we know the date & time of day this happened..what time does does the sun go down in June out there?
IMO, she had to have been covered in blood - what's your opinion as to how she got out of the house & into her car (which wasn't parked in the garage, but I assume the driveway, no?) without being seen? It's a neighborhood, and in June at 6 o 6:30pm, most neighborhoods have kids on bikes, mom's walking strollers, etc.. how'd she avoid being seen by anyone?