Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #193

[Salah11]

I also Believe the blood expert who said it’s transfer from Libby touching the tree.

It’s the most logical conclusion as well.

 

[FromGermany1]

It's her blood isn't it? How else is it going to get there unless the killer painted it on there. But a blood splatter expert said it did not look like it was painted. It looked like a natural transference of blood.

I will go with the expert at this point.

A video would be good to see, how a clean "F" is produced with wet fingers on a surface unintentionally (simulating holding and sliding down a tree).
I remember the original "F" being relatively clean like written with finger paint. For that, a slight break between the horizontal and vertical lines would be necessary, I think. One go wouldn't produce the clear image.

I'm not interested in what the "F" stands for or not, but rather in the technique, how it came about.

I'm now also waiting for the expert, doubting the expertise in advance.

 

[Salah11]

Major Delphi Murders update as cops investigate 'crime scene photos leak'

POLICE are probing an alleged leak of crime scene photos from the Delphi murders investigation. Libby German, 14, and her best friend Abby Williams, 13 were found dead along an abandoned railroad i…

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I don’t even see a “F” until the next photo which shows what the defense were/is claiming.

 

[FromGermany1]

Major Delphi Murders update as cops investigate 'crime scene photos leak'

POLICE are probing an alleged leak of crime scene photos from the Delphi murders investigation. Libby German, 14, and her best friend Abby Williams, 13 were found dead along an abandoned railroad i…

www.the-sun.com

I don’t even see a “F” until the next photo which shows what the defense were/is claiming.

I also don't see it. No idea, where I saw a clear "F", but I swear, I saw it somewhere. Hallucinations?

 

[Salah11]

I also don't see it. No idea, where I saw a clear "F", but I swear, I saw it somewhere. Hallucinations?

Maybe there is a clearer photo you saw?

 

[Megnut]

The blood spatter expert was aided by technology as I recall. Which lit up microscopic blood. He was also aided by clues from the crime scene as a whole. Separate pools of blood. Blood on LG's leg which implied position and dynamism. She was moving as she was being killed.

Her blood tells the harrowing truth.

JMO

 

[Salah11]

The blood spatter expert was aided by technology as I recall. Which lit up microscopic blood. He was also aided by clues from the crime scene as a whole. Separate pools of blood. Blood on LG's leg which implied position and dynamism. She was moving as she was being killed.

Her blood tells the harrowing truth.

JMO

Yes and these people don’t have an agenda unlike the D team. The Science tells them everything they need to know.

IMO

 

[mrjitty]

Yes and these people don’t have an agenda unlike the D team. The Science tells them everything they need to know.

IMO

I think this is an overlooked point.

This state expert doesn't have the goal to convict anyone in particular.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

We still don't know the totality of her description. I do not believe there will be anything inaccurate about her full testimony when it comes time for her to take the stand. It's been just another bit of manipulated spin by the DT, IMO

On the other hand, the state will have had plenty of time to prep her. But for his confessions, which I'm eager to learn more about the circumstances under which he gave them, I'd have SERIOUS issues with this case. AMOO

 

[mrjitty]

We still don't know the totality of her description. I do not believe there will be anything inaccurate about her full testimony when it comes time for her to take the stand. It's been just another bit of manipulated spin by the DT, IMO

The Judge literally ruled there was no misrepresentation.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I also don't see it. No idea, where I saw a clear "F", but I swear, I saw it somewhere. Hallucinations?

Is this another alleged leak of the crime scene photos? TIA

 

[sunshineray]

On the other hand, the state will have had plenty of time to prep her. But for his confessions, which I'm eager to learn more about the circumstances under which he gave them, I'd have SERIOUS issues with this case. AMOO

We don't know everything the State has yet, gag order is being obeyed, by them anyway.

 

[steeltowngirl]

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If it’s a MSM video, it should be ok to post here. I know I was side-eyeing the guy at 1:33 in this video, from when the girls were still missing on 2/13.

 

[statt#1]

This is a local tv station report, from their website. Video on this page shows searchers in the water. The creek easily could have, and I believe was, crossed by the killer and the girls.

2 bodies found during search for teen girls

An hour after Delphi AssistantFire Chief Curtis Borden toldRTV6two missing teen girls from Carroll County were found, calling it "not good," authorities said at a press conference two bodies had been found in the area they went missing.

www.wrtv.com

 

[steeltowngirl]

I think this is an overlooked point.

This state expert doesn't have the goal to convict anyone in particular.

Yes. Perhaps the state expert might have missed the ‘conspiracy to frame RA’ memo.

 

[photographer4]

I think this is an overlooked point.

This state expert doesn't have the goal to convict anyone in particular.

So how do they decide on an expert to use as a witness? I imagine they do a consult and find someone who will say their theory is correct or who offers them clarity on what this or that may have meant or what happened at the scene. I believe they’re paid to provide their testimony / expert opinion, are they not? For their time, travel, etc? I would like to ask the State how many people they met with to ask about the blood spatter / F and how they decided on this guy over anyone else? Were there other experts who didn’t conclude that this was a handprint made by a dying girl? Any of their experts consulted think it was a rune etc?

 

[shonyakay]

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I watched the saddest video (imo) on this case the other night.

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/video/still-a-mystery-investigation-discovery/down-the-hill

After the family learned of their murders...

Anna talked about being concerned that Abby had not been baptized. Kelsi talked about how she would look for Libby's light on when she would return home because she didn't want her to be gone. So heartbreakingly sad.

 

[TTF14]

The hearing is not an actual trial. He will have much more time to go in depth with his testimony then. He probably does have video evidence but there was no time in the hearing for anything like that.

All we heard was a preview of what his testimony will be. IMO

He explained very clearly why there was no finger or palm prints on the bark of a tree. It is impossible to pick up on bumpy, grooved surfaces like that.

I feel very confident that he did not record this experiment. My opinion only. We'll find out for sure when we can finally read the transcripts and not go by others' relaying to us what they want us to hear.

IMO MOO

 

[tlcya]

Major Delphi Murders update as cops investigate 'crime scene photos leak'

POLICE are probing an alleged leak of crime scene photos from the Delphi murders investigation. Libby German, 14, and her best friend Abby Williams, 13 were found dead along an abandoned railroad i…

www.the-sun.com

I don’t even see a “F” until the next photo which shows what the defense were/is claiming.

Major Delphi Murders update as cops investigate 'crime scene photos leak'

me either. just a faint smear of blood. It's a HUGE stretch for someone to say that is a purposeful anything. JMO

 

[sunshineray]

I also don't see it. No idea, where I saw a clear "F", but I swear, I saw it somewhere. Hallucinations?

It's there in google images.