Tealgrove
#Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero
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Deleted BY MeCan someone explain what DBM means? Thanks.
Deleted BY MeCan someone explain what DBM means? Thanks.
Can you show me in the transcript where the expert says A) the phone wasn’t dead B) was experience an inability to connect with the multiple towers in Delphi due to them being in a valley where reception was already quite poor?Indeed. That's from the night of the search when they could no longer reach or ping the girls' phone thus believed it's battery was dead.
Testimony from an expert since, once the phone was found and it's data analyzed, has shown that it wasn't that the girls' phone was dead at all - rather the phone was under Libby's shoe which was under Abby's body and therefore was experiencing an inability to connect with the multiple towers in Delphi due to them being (deceased IMO) in a valley area where reception was already quite poor.
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There was a point LE or a least Holeman believes they/he was told that Libby's phone went off at 5 p.m.Here is a YouTube clip from the night they went missing.
Ill quote Mike Patty: “missing, abducted, we don’t know for sure. Uh, cell phone has been pinging around town here, there’s a cell phone tower but the ping was last noted about 5 to 6 hours ago. They say the phones now dead.”
Time stamp on video 1:17
Yes but we're only talking about 18 minutes of fight or flight stress and then death. MODigestion may also be affected by intense stress, which surely the kids were under - I wonder if that may impact the investigation of their stomach contents?
"“When we’re stressed, our brain activates the sympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system is our flight-or-fight response: it prepares the body to protect itself against imminent danger by conserving functions that aren’t immediately needed for survival. That includes digestion. The emptying of the stomach is delayed, which can lead to a stomachache, indigestion, heartburn and nausea.”
How Stress Affects Digestion—And What You Can Do About It
When we're stressed out, our gut knows it--and suffers too. An expert shares tips to reducing stress and benefiting our digestive health.www.henryford.com
Here is a YouTube clip from the night they went missing.
Ill quote Mike Patty: “missing, abducted, we don’t know for sure. Uh, cell phone has been pinging around town here, there’s a cell phone tower but the ping was last noted about 5 to 6 hours ago. They say the phones now dead.”
Time stamp on video 1:17
I’m surprised they didn’t have it ready and at hand but then again they’ll probably wait until a week before the trial is to start in order to cause a delay.I'm waiting for the Defense to petition the Appellate Court of Judge Gull's denial to certify their IA.
3,2,1...
jmo
I’m surprised they didn’t have it ready and at hand but then again they’ll probably wait until a week before the trial is to start in order to cause a delay.
That’s how these guys roll.
MOO
IMO He probably wouldn't have had time. They searched his property later that day.I wonder if RA bought a new Carhartt jacket after his October 13th interview and deposed of the old one. That sure would be damning.
The gun would be a lot harder to swap out.
He definitely did what he could to not set off alarms. He did change his appearance quite a bit. But he didn’t go the extremes of selling off his assets.
All my opinion.
Another interesting thing I learned via google.. in Indiana it isn't required that you have a front license plate, just one on the back. Each state is different and where I am we are required to have both front and back, but Indiana only requires one on the back.Snipped by me:
I think RA backed in and parked at the old CPS building to keep it away from being seen at the main trailhead parking area. His car there would be more noticeable to trail goers and more easily identified.
In regards to the Hoosier Harvest store's camera? Did he even know of it's existence?
Another interesting thing I learned via google.. in Indiana it isn't required that you have a front license plate, just one on the back. Each state is different and where I am we are required to have both front and back, but Indiana only requires one on the back.
So backing in likely served 2 purposes for RA that day. Easier to leave if you just pull out instead of needing to back out and if anyone was driving by, they wouldn't be able to see his license plate easily since the front of his car wouldn't have one on it.
Yep you’re right. He probably replace that jacket immediately after committing the crimes. Perhaps in a traceable way.IMO He probably wouldn't have had time. They searched his property later that day.
Here is a Maps & Media thread link to the transcript detailing that day:
IN - Abigail Williams & Liberty German, Delphi, Media, Maps, Timelines NO DISCUSSION #2
Please post media maps & timelines here. *NO DISCUSSION* MISSING: Two 13-year-old girls dropped off to go walking at Carroll County trail Carroll County Sheriff Toby Leazenby said Abigail Williams and Liberty German were last seen around 1 p.m. when they were dropped off to go hiking at...www.websleuths.com
Yes, all things are possible. It's possible that he replaced his entire wardrobe, including all the non-wardrobe items, scrubbed all of his electronics, trashed all his burner phones, replaced the carpet in his trunk and got new seatbelts.Yep you’re right. He probably replace that jacket immediately after committing the crimes. Perhaps in a traceable way.
JMO
While the stress of being abducted at gunpoint and then murdered MAY have affected digestion, the same would be true of any murder victim [eta in similar circumstance] IMO, and therefore would not affect the accuracy of trained professionals opinions on TOD. IF stress slows digestion of people such as murder victims to the point it affects calculations those professionals would surely be aware and be taking it into account while determining TOD MOODigestion may also be affected by intense stress, which surely the kids were under - I wonder if that may impact the investigation of their stomach contents?
"“When we’re stressed, our brain activates the sympathetic nervous system. The sympathetic nervous system is our flight-or-fight response: it prepares the body to protect itself against imminent danger by conserving functions that aren’t immediately needed for survival. That includes digestion. The emptying of the stomach is delayed, which can lead to a stomachache, indigestion, heartburn and nausea.”
How Stress Affects Digestion—And What You Can Do About It
When we're stressed out, our gut knows it--and suffers too. An expert shares tips to reducing stress and benefiting our digestive health.www.henryford.com