aggravated waiting for the Aggravation phase #3

[josie1986]

Wow, I was watching TLC and this lady got the judge to order that a picture of her daughter (Tori) and her grandson(Dean) who were killed by the lady's grandson biological father(Dennis), be hanged in his cell as he's serving out his sentence (LWOP) as punishment. I wonder if that's possible in JA's case. :stormingmad:

ceiling to floor plastered with his photos is what i'd like

 

[Wishbone]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

Well said.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I'm watching HLV replaying the interrogation tapes and Jodi telling of the ninjas.

Jodi says the the man was standing where the carpet and tile met. The very place she slit Travis's throat.

 

[SCSam]

Originally Posted by ScarlettScarpetta
I agree with people sharing frustrations or ranting about tactics. I can not tell you how much my blood boils when they call Travis that horrid name or slander him. But I do get why. Because she gets to put on her defense. She gets to make a claim and have it heard. She gets to tell her story.. Fable that it is.. I have no issue whatsoever with the pure angst and feelings about Arias, But I do believe people have gone too far in their attacks on the DT and the witnesses. There is nothing wrong with a little ridicule and fun jokes about their quirks but then some people were trying to ruin careers and go after them. There is a line and some have crossed it. Not a lot of people but some. I think that is hard. Because we are on the righteous side. We are on the side of Travis. ALL OF US. But I don't think going after people or trying to ruin them helps anything. They are just doing their job. Someone has to. Someone has to defend her.

Would Nurmi be my first call if I needed a lawyer? Nah.. but I think he did the best he could with what he had. I think he went to far in some cases but this is an ugly brutal case. Who made it that way?? Arias.. That is where all the anger should be focused.. Just right there.

Well said. While their method of defense was reprehensible it was not illegal.
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Well, maybe it should be!

 

[The Village Idiot]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

Being a victim in a Court Setting, I am for Justice. It is personal issue for me, and hits a cord with me. Everyone has their OWN life experiences and that is what makes us unique. Not coming down on you for your post or anything ( no problems ) but when I see Justice done right (and not Blind Justice ) Yes, I am very happy.

I watched the OJ, and CA cases....and was starting to lose faith in the \justice system. So yes, I am happy. Travis did not deserve to die.

I wish I could have helped some how before it happened.....

We all have tears and joy different ways. :KISSY: and ;HUGS;

I am just more emotional....LOL....2 close 2 my heart

Now to cut my grass this weekend.

Happy Mothers day to ALL!!

 

[SusieD]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

I completely agree with your feelings but think if you look a little further you'll see that the whole crime/lynchmob thing didn't stop after Salem, it's been a constant through our history. From John Wilkes Booth to OJ it's been happening.

The ugly difference I see with today's style of mob is that they are there to be on TV. They behave in a manner most likely to get on TV.

 

[SuperTmo]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

I disagree. I was thrilled to see so many people outside (outside being the operative word, here! The jury could not see them) the courthouse not only in support of the Alexander family, but in support of JUSTICE. It's insulting to compare the crowd outside of the courthouse to a mob at a lynching, beheading, or witch burning. The crowd was very respectful and did not cause a problem. They weren't screaming "go to hell JA" or anything derogatory. They were supporting and praying for Travis and his family, not railing against JA.

I believe wholeheartedly that just like all of us here wanted and NEEDED to see justice, so did the people who were standing outside the courthouse. They did express their joy respectfully and maturely. I feel that as an American, I needed to see justice served on Wednesday in order to help restore my faith in the legal system. They were there to see that our system still works.

If this case took place where I lived, I'd be there. When Terri Horman is brought to justice for the death of sweet little Kyron...bet your butt I'll be cheering outside the courthouse. Even if I'm standing out there all alone, I'll do some fist pumping for sure.

 

[gcharlie]

This was in response to the interrogation tapes being used after the aggravation phase.

I think they probably can, but not sure. I do hope Juan brings in the post-verdict interview, though, becauase it shows clearly that jodi has NO REMORSE. He should play the part calling Travis a hypocrit and trashing hiim. I think that would be really effective in showing she doesn't care and shows no remorse.

There are quite a few points in that interview which would be of interest to the jury:

* She was asked a question about the jury not believing her and she said she understood why, given all the lies she had told before. She did not say anything about the fact that she lied to the jury...Juan definitely caught her in three absolute lies, but she wants to give the impression that she had been truthful on the stand.
* When she was Travis bashing in the interview, she cited fantasizing about 12 year old girls as proof of his pedophilia and did not mention little boys in spideys. So what is it, little boys or prepubescent girls? I t can't be both. Pedophiles don't switch between sexes and usually have an age/type preference (I had to go through training on this as I worked for an organization that had a lot of children's programs).

The interviewer gave her so many opportunities to express regret and she used that word a number of times, but never over killing Travis.

I can't help but see common threads between this interview and the ones with Flores, 48 Hours and InSession.

It won't come soon enough for the legal proceedings to end and have this woman locked away, out of the public eye and eventually just fading away.

This thing cannot tell the truth even when her life depends on it.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

I disagree. These people were not in a courtroom, and do have a First Amendment right to free expression. Given recent verdicts that have caused people to lose faith in our jury and justice system, these patriotic Americans were elated that justice was served this time around. There was no taunting, out of line slogans, etc. like might have taken place "in more barbaric times". These people let the system work as it should, and were relieved and joyous to see that their faith could be restored. Nothing wrong with that, the way I see it.

 

[AZlawyer]

convicted prisoners do not have first amendment rights in prison - see following

Prisoners do not have a First Amendment right to speak freely.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Prisoners'+Rights

prisoners do not have full Constitutional rights, they are protected by the Constitution's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment (see Amendment VIII). This protection requires that prisoners be afforded a minimum standard of living. Prisoners retain some other Constitutional rights, including due process in their right to administrative appeals and a right of access to the parole process. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment has been held to apply to prison inmates.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/prisoners_rights

They do have some First Amendment rights. For example, Jodi could not be prevented from giving an interview, but she might be limited to responding to written questions submitted by mail. Similarly, she could not be prevented from writing to a friend to ask them to put some (non-security risk) message on Twitter for her.

 

[InALandFarFarAway]

Hopefully there'll be more focus on Travis and how much he is missed, than on that "thing" sitting in the jail psych ward. lease:

ETA: In watching the countless clips of JA before, during, and after the trial, not ONCE has she ever said anything that indicated she missed him AT ALL. And not once has she spoken the words, "I'm sorry." Shaking my head. :notgood:

OMG. I'm so happy you said this. It's maddening that she just HAD to usurp what should have been days for Travis and his family. Ugh.

My dad said the other night that someone should just tell her she can't even rise to the level of banality.

That would cut her to the bone. And maybe she'd go away.

 

[ilovewings]

Just jumping off your post -- not singling you out...

While I am quite pleased with this verdict, I am taken aback by some of the rowdy displays I have seen regarding the verdict. The mob outside of the courthouse when it was announced, with their hoots, cheers, arm-pumping, etc. was insulting to the justice system. That kind of behavior would not be allowed in the courtroom, and it's inappropriate outside (or probably anywhere in public).

I know, it was fueled by high emotions (and media hype) after a very hard-fought battle, but this was not a World Series game or Super Bowl or NASCAR race win. It reminded me of the mobs at lynchings, beheadings & witch burnings in more barbaric times. This verdict was/is serious business. Expressing joy and satisfaction can be done respectfully and maturely.

(Sorry to be a wet blanket, but...)

you are not a wet blanket- i didn't like the mob mentality and worse, i was thinking that JVM and HLN are courting a mistrial with all that stuff right on the courthouse steps. they should have been told to leave the premises. HLN has not acquitted itself very well; very sensationalistic and Jean Casares could have caused a mistrial.

 

[pferrin]

He did a sloppy job with the interview
Im so so and so disapointed we didnt get to see nurmis reaction

wasnt it stated that ja gave him the questions to ask? That wasnt an interview...he just read her questions to her that she gave him. Imo that isnt an interview that is just placating a killer.

An interview IMO is when the person answering the questions doesn't know what the questions are in advance. I know 4 year olds that could have read her questions to her. I call bs to the whole thing.

Annnnnnnd you cant convince me that the Nurmi and Wilmott didnt know that this was happening. It was planned too far in advance for any of this not to have been known by all.

Good try on their part...like her chest area I call Fake Fake Fake to the entire saga.

TRUTH, on the other hand is represented by TRAVIS ALEXANDER'S FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

 

[Kentjbkent]

The reason for yesterdays trial cancellation is now just speculation..a few ideas have been thrown out: 1) JA through a fit and was hauled off; 2) defense tean wanted to discuss admissability of the post conviction interview; 3) JA fired her attys.....whichever is correct I ddon't know record is sealed. Court will start 10am wed 5/15 for aggravation part...sedated or non sedated convicetd murderess...JMO

If I am recalling correctly, something similar happened near the end of the CA trial....wasn't court suddenly cancelled for the day (towards end of week) with no explanation....and resumed after the weekend? At the time, there was speculation as to what was going on.....and we later found out that the defense team (mainly Cheney) tried to convince CA to consider offering a plea but she steadfastly REFUSED, so Cheney filed an immediate motion for another psych evaluation of Casey (causing this delay)? Cheney later stated he considered her incompetent because she would "listen to reason"?

I wonder if that is what is going on....

After the shenanigans by JA immediately after the verdict (and most likely AGAINST advice from defense team), could it be that they filed a motion to have a mental evaluation in response to her ignoring their legal advice?

If so, I think it will resolve the same as in the CA trial....JA will be found competent and aggravation phase will continue...but at least defense team will be on record should JA attempt an appeal based on ineffective defense.

??? So I don't think this has so much to do with JA current mental status as I believe it is the defense team covering butt....

 

[JustMeDeb]

ceiling to floor plastered with his photos is what i'd like

I don't think looking at his pics would bother her at all. In her warped mind, those autopsy pics are her finest work.

 

[I Object!]

The statutes that apply to Jodi and the rights she must forfeit (free speech NOT being one of them) can be found here:

http://www.lac.org/toolkits/certificates/Arizona Statutes.pdf

convicted prisoners do not have first amendment rights in prison - see following

Prisoners do not have a First Amendment right to speak freely.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Prisoners'+Rights

prisoners do not have full Constitutional rights, they are protected by the Constitution's prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment (see Amendment VIII). This protection requires that prisoners be afforded a minimum standard of living. Prisoners retain some other Constitutional rights, including due process in their right to administrative appeals and a right of access to the parole process. The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment has been held to apply to prison inmates.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/prisoners_rights

 

[Isabelle]

HLN showing interrogation, now on the Ninja part. How much of the interrogation tapes did Jury see (not too much that I recall)?

 

[Observer in AZ]

Hey All..

I just wanted to jump on quickly to say Hello and..

1) I almost fell over when I heard HLN mentioning the Gosnell Trial because no one has mentioned much about in the media
2) That CNN actually had indepth reporting on Benghazi another 1st I've seen starting today (Thought I was in some kind of parallel universe for a minute LMAO)

BUT REALLY CAME TO SAY..
How flip'n creepy & disturbing is it to rewatch CMJA's interrogation videos now after everything we've seen & learned about this case!!

It's like you can actually watch her create the lies as they go along.. Ex. They took her purse got her DL then you see here almost remember it's a POBox on DL so she says but since it has POB they found my car registration in the purse I was using at that time.

I've said it before I'll say it again the DEVIL is ALWAYS in the DETAILS.. the more details you get the bigger the lie because they want to make sure they cover all the holes in their story etc!! But this extremely interesting to watch this again knowing what we know now.

 

[texaslb218]

Do any of you remember San Quentin Visitor? She posted that after the verdict and WHILE appeals were started, that ISP would be a forgotten man, where no one thought of him daily like we used to. She said he would become just another on DR without a communitty of supporters. I miss her and valued her opinions since she had family experience with San Quentin DR. Surely Jodi will fade away to obscurity which the worst thing for a narcissist! The worst thing to find out that they are not important in any way to the world passing them by.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Was it ever confirmed as to why court was cancelled? Someone help me out. Please!

Not yet .. here are the main theories flying around (shown in order of probability)

• JA's interviews with Fox and her move to the psyche ward caused a delay because she needs to have a competentcy eval before continuing
• JA's interviews from Fox caused a delay as Juan wanted to move to bring them into evidence
• JA's interviews with Fox caused Nurmi, or Wilmott or both to file a motion to withdraw because they've had enough of JA
• JA went bat***** crazy in the courtroom and hid under a table and refused to get out and got tazed

For all of the above: extended to Wednesday because Dr Horn unavailable until then.