AL AL - Brittney Wood, 19, Mobile, 31 May 2012 - #11

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Andrew Perez FOX10 Mobile reports on another child sex crime case. Unrelated, but since we're praising him for keeping Brittney's name in the news, seems a good place to drop this.

Watch the videos to hear the news people carefully pronounce the former politician's name.

http://www.fox10tv.com/web/fox10tv/news/local/mobile-county/jockisch-charged-with-child-sex-crimes

Maybe this was more pertinent that I realized. I only was praising Andrew..pssst, Andrew -> there's a silent plea in Curious Me's post to you I heard it. :)
 
I cannot stop thinking about CW ...I have a nagging feeling and It won't go away. I keep hearing her saying way back when she was first missing: "B was happy as a clam " and now we are hearing all this BS- lately about her confronting them all - is it me ? Rethinking some things . in truth wasn't CW the last person to see Bw and not DH ? Did she ...


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I cannot stop thinking about CW ...I have a nagging feeling and It won't go away. I keep hearing her saying way back when she was first missing: "B was happy as a clam " and now we are hearing all this BS- lately about her confronting them all - is it me ? Rethinking some things . in truth wasn't CW the last person to see Bw and not DH ? Did she ...


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You are not alone. I detest that woman on a level that's different than my dislike for Wendy or Mendy. She's a terrible human and shouldn't be breeding, and I'm not apologizing for having that opinion. People like Chessie shouldn't be allowed to procreate, yet she has 5 kids and where are the first 3? I have side eyed Paul for so long that I think my eyes are stuck. Everyone's spouses are under fire, except Paul. We know that Chessie's charge stems from a time they were already together. How does Paul not know anything?

I wish everyone knew how foul mouthed I am and how testing this is of my will power lol.
 
This is a longshot, but does anyone have a link to a transcript of this interview with Chessie that aired four months ago?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/missin...tney-wood-and-jeffrey-holloman-separate-cases

TIA


Here are Chessie's exact words from the first half ONLY of the interview, when she talks about Brittney. I think they are correct. I haven't included her friend Kathy's conversation about her son, and I've drastically cut the radio presenter's conversation and questions as they are far, too extensive and repetitive to transcribe. I've just put what's necessary to show the essence of the questions CW was answering.

P is presenter.
C is Chessie Wood


P: Chessie, have you been - all this time you where there, I imagine, anyway I don't really know the situation but knowing that your friend Kathy's stepson has been missing and all of a sudden you're thrown into the same world of the disappeared. Was it - I don't know how to word it but because I have a daughter missing I'm just gonna be blunt, was it helpful to have somebody who's been through this, so you can see them surviving, or was it absolute disbelief that it has touched your circle again?

C: It was hurtful. It was very hurtful but at the same time it is helpful, to talk to somebody's face and know they know my pain. I wouldn't wish that pain on no-one but it does help to know that Kathy feels exactly what I feel.

P: And you know it's hard to imagine that, that friends could be able to hold each other up like that but it can and it's got to be nothing short of a godsend because the support ??? I get out of my friends, even my best friend, whose own son who - on 5th Aug this year it will be 13 years since her son was hit and killed by a car when he was 16..... He was quite a bit younger but its still her son and without her support I don't know how I would ever get through it, but it's not the same thing as she doesn't have these unanswered questions. As painful as it is, she got her answers and........so when you look at Brittney's disappearance it leads you almost into one direction, at least that's my opinion. What do you think Chessie? Do you think you ccould pretty well say you might know what might have happened to Brittney or do you think there's a huge gap of different choices that might have befallen her?

C: Um, there's different choices but there's that one - (sigh) there's this one, we try to get away from it and it's just all the evidence we have. In Kathy's situation, Kathy and Bow do not have a lot of support, unlike me in my case with Brittney. We had the KlaasKids Foundation, we had the community, we had hundreds of people looking for Brittney and umm, but the evidence shows she got in the truck with her uncle and um went to a place not too far from here named Styxx River. We know this by telephone pings. Her phone's pinging exactly together all the way over there, so we got to Styxx River. She comes up, she walks outta my door, May 30th of last year and she caught a ride with her uncle at the end of my street. I thought she was going to her friend's and um, it seems like everything just ends at Styxx River. So that's why we had hundreds of people with dogs and sonar and boats and everything looking for my daughter. But it's a bunch of rivers, woods and water. Teenagers and young adults hang out and go down the river, so there's all kind of clothing and shoes and stuff just all over the place. So it was a nightmare but I just really felt like I was going to find her there. (crying) Klaaskids told me something and I'll never forget it. He told me that 'You're gonna want this to be a sprint but prepare for a marathon', and I never felt so much truth in a statement from a human being in my life. Cos that's exactly how I felt. I needed to get the answers right now and it don't happen that way too often.

P: No, it doesn't, especially when the last person to see Brittney was her uncle Don....How long after the last time you saw her - or anyone saw her - did you guys realize um, you know, where's Brittney?

C: Wednesday night at 7.30 she left my house. Friday I looked at my husband and I told him if I
do not hear from Brittney tomorrow morning I'm calling the police. And later that day, the uncle she left with, put a gun to his head and killed hisself. So-

P: So the moment you were going to be calling cops the next day, he went out and he shot himself and he was the last person to be seen with her? So that leaves a couple of unasked questions in our mind. It is truly does. Why do you think - do you think he knew that whatever happened, he was going to be caught for? Did he talk to anybody-

C: (Talking over the top of the presenter) I don't really - there's so many unanswered questions there. You know like - I believe (crying) I believe my daughter confronted him about some things and she paid the ultimate price for it. We just can't find what he done with her! Cos he cowarded out and took his own life and left us here with unanswered questions..(crying)

P: And that's right. He did coward out. You'd think at least if nothing else, if he was a man enough he would have left a note you know, saying anything about um, you know, look here but he didn't. You're very, very right. Now, we've got some questions in the chat room...I'm not sure if you're answering questions....One here says, did you and Brittney have a fight that... It actually says what did CW and BW fight about that caused BW to decide she had to get out of the house? Like, I don't know if you want to get into a question and answer period-

C: (Talking over presenter) That is Fine. That is fine. Um, me and Brittney did not get into a fight. I asked her um, my husband was going out down to work and I asked her 'Hey Brittney, would you sit here and help me out with your little sister and brother?', because she loved her little sister and brother; she wanted a little sister for 17 years and she finally got one and she snapped at me. But now I realize she snapped at me because she was just gonna go and confront her uncle (crying) about some deep dark crap I had no idea was even in existence. So at that time no, I didn't understand but after her disappearance it all started making sense.

P: And that make perfect sense to me. To the person I think who asked the questions..(explains Brittney's case, and that the other crimes didn't take place in Brittney's home, etc)... had something to do with her decision to finally confront this person?

C: Well if you knew Brittney, she was spunky. She was a firecracker. I always told my kinds, stand up for what you believe in; I don't care if it's animal rights, I don't care if it's against abortion, I don't care what it's for. If you believe in something strong enough, make sure you always stand up for it. And Brittney - a victim confided in Brittney two days before her disappearance and I believe it sent Brittney over the edge and she went and confronted the situation (presenter starts talking over) and we've never seen her again (crying)-

P: I do believe that's what happened too Chessie..What we're gonna do is, we're going to take a short break...

*
 
From Zwiebel's post.
Chessie made this statement:
"C: Wednesday night at 7.30 she left my house. Friday I looked at my husband and I told him if I
do not hear from Brittney tomorrow morning I'm calling the police
. And later that day, the uncle she left with, put a gun to his head and killed hisself. So-"

But if she was only going to her friends house and not the Uncles. If Brittney left as she often did, for days at a time.. why would there be a need to call the police the next day (and they didn't anyway). Why did she think she needed to call the police?

Right there you go.

She KNEW Brittney left with Don. She knew. I bet there was a known "meeting of the minds" and she probably did say she was going to call the cops the next day - but she didn't and why, we will never know. But her statement, to me at least, says it all. She knew.. she knows.
 
The missing person report was done on Saturday 6/2. But there was the blending of the days and dates, to Chessie, thursday was 6.1 on national television. So this is still the family's social media team in action with the blending of dates/times in the critical 40 hours.

I wish we had an exact time the call went to 911 for the attempted suicide. This morning/day time range is vague, too.
 
And also the time the MP report was filed. Then if we only had the 'true' time (not the social media team time posted time) Donnie was taken off life support.
 
:wave: Thanks for the transcription, zwiebel. I appreciate all of you on this thread so much. :tyou:

The quoted part below always riles me up because CW makes herself sound like such an observant, courageous crime fighter of injustices. CW takes credit for Brittney being spunky and a firecracker.
CW wants us to believe she taught her kids this wisdom.

CW, at the very least, barely noticed or looked the other way to not know what was going on in her own family or to her own children. Remember, CW, herself, didn't go confront anybody. CW has hidden behind lies of not knowing things that were going on. She left her children to fight their own battles and
she left them to make their own poor decisions.

CW didn't stand up to her own children, nor did she stand up for her own children.

All MOO, of course.



Quote from CW's own mouth:
"C: Well if you knew Brittney, she was spunky. She was a firecracker. I always told my kids, stand up for what you believe in; I don't care if it's animal rights, I don't care if it's against abortion, I don't care what it's for. If you believe in something strong enough, make sure you always stand up for it. And Brittney - a victim confided in Brittney two days before her disappearance and I believe it sent Brittney over the edge and she went and confronted the situation (presenter starts talking over) and we've never seen her again (crying)-"
 
I cannot stop thinking about CW ...I have a nagging feeling and It won't go away. I keep hearing her saying way back when she was first missing: "B was happy as a clam " and now we are hearing all this BS- lately about her confronting them all - is it me ? Rethinking some things . in truth wasn't CW the last person to see Bw and not DH ? Did she ...


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Did she indeed! The way this reads she waits until Donnie is shot (and can't speak) to call the police to report Brittney missing. I'm not saying anything, but... Donnie was shot that morning.

"C: Wednesday night at 7.30 she left my house. Friday I looked at my husband and I told him if I
do not hear from Brittney tomorrow morning I'm calling the police. And later that day, the uncle she left with, put a gun to his head and killed hisself. So-

P: So the moment you were going to be calling cops the next day, he went out and he shot himself and he was the last person to be seen with her? So that leaves a couple of unasked questions in our mind. It is truly does. Why do you think - do you think he knew that whatever happened, he was going to be caught for? Did he talk to anybody-"
 
"C: (Talking over presenter) That is Fine. That is fine. Um, me and Brittney did not get into a fight. I asked her um, my husband was going out down to work and I asked her 'Hey Brittney, would you sit here and help me out with your little sister and brother?', because she loved her little sister and brother; she wanted a little sister for 17 years and she finally got one and she snapped at me. But now I realize she snapped at me because she was just gonna go and confront her uncle (crying) about some deep dark crap I had no idea was even in existence. So at that time no, I didn't understand but after her disappearance it all started making sense."

Hey Chessie, Brittney did not snap at you because she was going to confront her uncle, she snapped at you because she was tired to taking care of your children. I really doubt Brittney wanted a little sister the same age as her own daughter. MOO
 
Right! And, on Friday, rather than trying to contact BW immediately after hearing DH was found with a bullet in the head, waiting a few hours then calling the police ... CW waits until the next day, Sat, at ??:?? ?m to file missing persons report. She must have been worried sick! /snark
 
Remember waaay back at first the only reason they knew Brittney was missing?

CW, and possibly others, tried to get in contact with Brittney to tell her about DH shooting himself. No one could find her.

That always stuck in my head.
 
Brittney left at 7:30 p.m. Was Chessie trying to go out herself and wanted Brittney to babysit? How late do her young children stay up? Also, why didn't Chessie's hubba offer to give Brittney a ride because in the first version/story it had Brittney having to walk miles to her friend's in barely any shoes.

The fight still sounds like it was more of a fight. Some things go completely over Chessie's head, I guess, and suddenly Brittney just snapped that remark. I've noticed it is always later that Chessie realizes things, and it is usually when she's cornered for answers that some other version dawns on her.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/missin...tney-wood-and-jeffrey-holloman-separate-cases

"C: Wednesday night at 7.30 she left my house. Friday I looked at my husband and I told him if I do not hear from Brittney tomorrow morning I'm calling the police. And later that day, the uncle she left with, put a gun to his head and killed hisself. So-"

and

"C: (Talking over presenter) That is Fine. That is fine. Um, me and Brittney did not get into a fight.
I asked her um, my husband was going out down to work and I asked her 'Hey Brittney, would you sit here and help me out with your little sister and brother?', because she loved her little sister and brother; she wanted a little sister for 17 years and she finally got one and she snapped at me. But now I realize she snapped at me because she was just gonna go and confront her uncle (crying) about some deep dark crap I had no idea was even in existence. So at that time no, I didn't understand but after her disappearance it all started making sense."
 
"C: (Talking over presenter) That is Fine. That is fine. Um, me and Brittney did not get into a fight. I asked her um, my husband was going out down to work and I asked her 'Hey Brittney, would you sit here and help me out with your little sister and brother?', because she loved her little sister and brother; she wanted a little sister for 17 years and she finally got one and she snapped at me.

(snipped and bolded by me)

This is rather infuriating. Reminds me of Casey Parsons from the Erica Parsons case, who constantly tries to portray her missing adopted daughter as a spoiled, ungrateful brat, even at 6-8 years-old. "Pity me," the subtext begs. "Gag me," the reader responds. :banghead:
 
My impression is that, when Chessie makes up a newer version, she always includes a new slant according to what she's cornered with as some revelation she had after.

She hides behind her not-realizing-things-at-the-time. That includes Everything!

It's very frustrating to sort out her versions now.


snipped CW: "confront her uncle (crying) about some deep dark crap I had no idea was even in existence."
 
My impression is that, when Chessie makes up a newer version, she always includes a new slant according to what she's cornered with as some revelation she had after.

She hides behind her not-realizing-things-at-the-time. That includes Everything!

It's very frustrating to sort out her versions now.


snipped CW: "confront her uncle (crying) about some deep dark crap I had no idea was even in existence."


BBM

Mmmm...right...you had no idea...
 
Part two of Chessie's interview. I'll put the two halves together in one post in the media thread too.

P is presenter
C is Chessie

Part 2

P: (Talks about her own missing daughter)....if you have a link or a FB page or anything, post it in the chatroom...Tell us, how did you guys get together?

C: Well, we were approached by a chaplain and he thought it was a great idea if me and Kathy got together and formed a support awareness group for our local communities. We - once me and Kathy got together - we realized this is a problem in this whole planet, not just in little Mobile, Alabama. There is families hurting, wondering and needing answers all the way around the world. And that's when we decided to....to expand, because there are a lot of people that don't know - don't have a friend with a missing child and um, we want them to have that friend.

(Chessie's friend talks here about how hard it has been for her since her son went missing and there was nobody to help)

C: (talking over her friend) And when we help individuals, we always incorporate each other's children, and if we find some more families with missing children, we would also incorporate their children. Even if it's their anniversary - well, you're right, it's not an anniversary, it's a grim reminder, but I incorporate Jeffrey, and something that happened to us that really bonded me and Kathy was at Brittney's awareness vigil we released blue and yellow balloons and one yellow and one blue went one way, and one yellow and one blue went the other way together and they never separated and it captivated everybody at that vigil.

P: I caught a ripple....We have two missing people, two completely different responses from the media.....etc

(Chessie's friend speaks about her son, Chessie seems to be agreeing in the background)

P: (Talking at length about missing persons in general and how media treat them)

C: Yeah. They put walls up for these grieving families. First of all the police didn't want to take my report. He told me that he had found a girl, in a hotel doing dope with her friend, three days before I was reporting Brittney. And I told him, 'Well, why don't you go there and see if my daughter's in that hotel because at least she'd be alive! To this day I wanna call that cop and say, 'Have you found her yet?' Cos he was cocky, he didn't even want to take my report. The National Centre of missing children still have Brittney listed as voluntarily missing.

P: How does she volunteer to be missing when she leaves her child behind? Now let's kinda go back a bit now and, and, talk about what it is that Brittney was going to be confronting her Uncle Don about..it triggered something in her......she got a confirmation that yes he had done something that was inappropriate and this is what she was going to confront him about. Is that correct?

C: I'm almost positive. This was the victim that Brittney loved and was very close to and I believe that it hurt her badly.

P: Yes because ...she knew that this guy did this to others.*Do you know - (male voice can be heard starting to talk in the background here, over the end of the sentence)

C: Brittney was a victim of him. Just after Brittney's disappearance, detectives come to my house and said that they found evidence that Brittney was a victim of her hus - of my - of her uncle.

P: Of her uncle Don, who she confronted because she now knew that he was doing it to someone else.... Um, but what you told me was, it doesn't matter about anything else that's happening. You-you actually opened yourself up, you've come on the show, answering questions because this isn't about anything else that happened. It isn't about the reason Brittney's missing, it's about the fact that Brittney's missing.

C: Right. Right. It has overshadowed my daughter's disappearance completely. We've spoke to law enforcement, with my community; they'd much rather have the dirt and the grime than help a mother find her missing daughter that has a three-year-old child.

P: Yes. Another comment that's been in here, it's up to you if you wanna respond to it.....would you like to comment about the charges, the sexual abuse charges that are now against you? I do know earlier I did pose that to you and I um do believe that you-

C: Yeah, my attorney. My attorney advised me not to. All I got to say is that, uh, you know, anybody that wanna (believe it?). It's about all I can say about it at this time but, they'll see-

P: (talking over Chessie, unintelligable)

C: God knows and the victim knows and if Brittney ain't with us here no more she knows - it wouldn't matter where Brittney is no more, Brittney knows and that's all that matters to me. That's it. I don't have to worry about God's judgment - and that's the one I fear the most is his judgment and I don't have to worry about that...so that's all I got to say about that one.

P: (Talking over Chessie) Well I-

C: See, the questions even coming in is kinda overshadowing my daughter. I mean, what does that have to do with Brittney walking out being killed by her uncle and I can't find her?

P: That's a good point. It doesn't have anything to do with that it, it actually it, if- it has everything to do with it but nothing to do with it. The fact that it happened, the fact that she confronted her uncle is the reason it happened but you're right...but tonight the show is not for you to defend something that is actually being um judged in a court of law-

C: (Speaking over presenter.) Right! I mean, why aren't they - Why aren't they writing 'when's the last hunt you've had for your daughter?' When's the next search you're planning for your daughter? I don't get them questions anymore.

P: Why don't we say when was the last search for Brittney?

C: Um, we do a lot of private ones now because of community backlash that I have been going through, but the last search that my little net family I have was , was five weeks ago - five weekends ago. We did another search where I believe she's at and that would be Styxx River. I've told KlaasKids; they keep saying a mother's intuition is the strongest there is. Sometimes, that mother can go to her baby, sometimes and (crying) I just have a strong feeling that's where she's at.

P: So that answers my question, I was gonna ask you if, if your mother's intuition was telling you that Brittney was no longer alive.

C: It's a - it's a tug of war with all of us. Me and Kathy, we have the realistic side that says she's gone, and he did it and then I have the hope as a mother and as the grandmother to her baby there's some way, some how that one day she's going to walk up to my door. I tell people that I would never leave behind this house because I'd be scared that if she ever returned she wouldn't be able to find us. So I'll never leave here until I find my baby.

P: I felt the same way......I know exactly what you're talking about...etc

C: Right. I mean Amanda Berry was proof that it can happen. It is possible. I was so glad they found that girl alive because I believe it's showing these people, our - our children become posters on the stores - on the store glass. They're not people anymore, they're the missing. I want people to know our children as people, That is a missing poster-

P: -Right. There's a person who's missed, not a missing person. That's exactly right....(Talks to Chessie's friend again) Right we do have another couple of questions coming in...one is about Brittney's little girl...is she being raised by her father in the past year? And is that close to you, do you guys get to see her?

C: I got to see her right after Brittney's disappearance but once the sex crimes started happening they no longer let me see her. And Brittney lived with me. Me and Brittney was pregnant together, we had babies four days apart. Brittney, Brittney and me had a bond like nobody I helped deliver my grandbaby and then they st- you know, I'm missing my daughter and (she was all I had left of her?) and they snatch her from me too.

P: So it's actually Brittney you've been accused of molesting, not that it was actually grandchildren. They're actually saying somebody who isn't there to defend herself, or you, because she can't say whether it happenned or not - how is it that the police are able to say that and, and charge you with it? - I'm sorry, I went off track. It's just to me it's ironic that there's not a victim who can attest to it but they're still going ahead with it. So-

C: No. No no. My victim is um, somebody else-

P: Oh,okay.

C: My accuser. Put it that way,my accuser. But I mean, it's a big story here, I mean the people who are responsible, slash, knowledgeable of my daughter's death has never came to the family, they've never come to a vigil, they've never come to a search - they've never done nothing and I accused her uncle of killing her and these family members get very angry and, and I think they're implicated in my daughter's disappearance and I am so hellbound to find my daughter they got to get rid of me. And that's just how I feel. How this all started. There is a couple more people in this that shouldn't even be in it. But um, yeah, the victims take us through horrible sorts of (suspenses?) but it was mostly by the man who took the gun and put it to his head and a few more that they've arrested but-

P: And...the ones arrested - are they all still in jail, or are they out?

C: No, there's one. Everybody's out on bond and most of them's got monitors around their ankles and the only one in jail was my son, my oldest child which is also a victim of these sick bastards over there! He's a-

P: Oh-

C: - victim and they locked him up. They locked up a few of the victims actually. Not just my son. I don't know when victims started getting arrested but they do it here in the South.

P: Yeah, I do believe that it does - that the answers do seem to be there..but they have no proof, they've not been convicted, but when you, there has been a comment because when you, I mean you did say and in quotes 'My daughter's death' but you had already stated that your mother's intuition told you that she's not alive so that to me, even though-

C: Yeah. Well the public's very good about plucking words. You know they try to get - to knock you off track for something because they're jumping on the track with me and helping me find Brittney quick and (taking?) words out of my mouth. What I meant yes, yes (presenter talking over) In all reality my daughter didn't run off over a year ago and leave her baby and her mother and her brothers here to suffer like this-

P: No. I-

C: You know what I meant by that?

P: Yes. I did. I-I knew what you meant. But I'll tell you something I knew right away someone was going to comment on that and - and the one thing that is really hard when your are living a nightmare is if you have to pick and choose your wording too...it's easy to say the wrong word etc.... there's two sides to every story. When you come down to the bottom line, everybody just wants to find Brittney-

C: Right. (presenter talking over) but the point is that KlaasKids Foundation told us at that this kind of a tragedy will tear a family slap apart. It's just so hurtful and it's so painful. People start lashing out, trying to get that pain gone outta their own body and we held on as a unit for a while and then we started separating and lashing and we were tired, we were exhausted, we were emotionally a train wreck. And they said that it's actually very common (calming?)

P: Did they?

C: -and actually Kathy had a few splits in her, you know, situation.

(Chessie's friend speaks about the pressures, very briefly, and how her grandkids were born on days to do with Brittney, such as her birthday)

P: Chessie, on those days, I'm sure you want to be down as far as you can go on those days - but because you're close with kathy, you love her, I'm sure you've got joy in your heart those days also, for those birthdays also. I believe there's a reason why they were born on those days.

C: Right. Right. It's very, very weird, yeah um. I believe that when we are brought down that goodness is showered upon us to keep us moving. God knows when I'm down and he - like it says he will not leave you he will not forsake you. He has not left me....One thing I wanna get out real quick is that a lot of families - I want to get to a lot of families with missing loved ones. I believe that the siblings of the missing loved ones don't get the attention - them kids need therapy too. They need love and support just like the parents and like you know siblings are left out a lot - *My - our Brittney's two brothers - I have two babies but her two brothers she grew up with is living in hell right now. They believe that their job is to find their sister and to bring her home to her momma and they can't find her and my boys are just as broken as I am. That was their only sister for 17 years. They protected her and something happened so they feel like they failed her. I just want to bring that awareness to a lot of other people; don't forget about your other children cos they need you right now, very, very badly.

P: Thank you

(Chessie's friend starts speaking but program ends before she can finish)

NOTE: Absolutely no disrespect for any editing I've done, to anyone. This was just to get Chessie's words about Brittney on here only, and I couldn't have done it without cutting other people's out.
 
I listened several times to when Chessie said 'hellbound', which I think should be 'hellbent'. It sounded so like hellbound though, so I left it as it was. I'll be happy to correct if anyone hears different.
 
A few things:

"C: Brittney was a victim of him. Just after Brittney's disappearance, detectives come to my house and said that they found evidence that Brittney was a victim of her hus - of my - of her uncle[
/B]." Say what?!

&

"P: -Right. There's a person who's missed, not a missing person. That's exactly right....(Talks to Chessie's friend again) Right we do have another couple of questions coming in...one is about Brittney's little girl...is she being raised by her father in the past year? And is that close to you, do you guys get to see her?

C: I got to see her right after Brittney's disappearance but once the sex crimes started happening they no longer let me see her.
"

This is debunked by the father of Brittney's daughter and Stephanie. She hadn't seen baby P in a long while, even prior to Brittney going missing. This is also a lie.

notice that when speaking about the crimes or brittney, she constantly does the "um" when she's not discussing that - and just herself, things she's sure of - there's no hesitation.
 
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