AL AL - Danniella Vian, 24, Mobile, 17 Jul 2018 #2

[Charliegizmo49]

Thanks for the summary! Still trying to make sense of what we know. It's even more curious then that there were three cars at the Shell station that night even though it was closed. The fact that three cars pulled in at the same time kind of suggests that a third car was following the first two.

We have car 1, 2 and 3. Danniella is following DW. They drive into the Shell station after Danniella, following DW, flashes her lights at him to pull over.

Car 1
DW
11:05 arrive
11:07 depart

Car 2
Danniella car
11:05 arrive
11:24 depart

Car 3
Unknown
11:08 arrive
11:24 depart

• LoJack disabled at Shell station, exact time unknown, also unknown whether antenna is on exterior of car
• Cell phone missing, unknown whether cell phone has app that allows tracking of car LoJack system
• DW says that Danniella was following him and at some point he lost her, but how could she be following him if she didn't leave the Shell station until 11:24?

Is this accurate?

Great. Catch. !!!!!!!!!

 

[Charliegizmo49]

My apologies! I'm not trying to hide the timeline but when I joined back in after the verification process, I did not go back to previous posts. So, without further adieu:

On Tuesday, July 17th, Danniella went off to meet RC at Dublin’s to celebrate her purchase of her new Car. Danniella met up RC, who also Had two friends MK & DW with him. They stay there for a few drinks, and then decide to head to Ollie’s. RC & MK head out first. Danni and DW were traveling down the interstate 65S, in two separate cars, DW leading. Danni flashes her lights and DW, and he pulls over at the Shell Station on Government Blvd/Hwy 90. Danni makes DW aware that she has lost her cell phone. The video shows what appears to be two cars pulling into the parking lot at 11:05 pm. Two minutes later, one car appears to leave. The other car stays parked. At 11:08 another car pulls in, and both cars are parked. Until 11:24 when they both leave. No indication of which way each car left. With the darkness of the video, you could not tell if anyone left either Car, or how many passengers were in each car. DW and Danni we’re headed back to Dublin’s, to search for Dannis phone. Danni never makes it to Dublin’s, according to DW. JT was told DW showed up at Ollie’s around 12:00 and stayed for a few minutes, and Danni never showed. DW also had a rental car, which he had after coming back into town from work. He returned the rental car around 1:00 am and then headed home.

Wednesday July 18th 7:30 a.m. Dannie’s MIL gets a phone call, it was DW saying that he has “this girl's” phone and he happened to see some pictures of a baby on it and thought that she may really need to have that phone. Leading to believe he didn’t know who she was. Like she was a Stranger to Him. JT (MIL) told DW to just take it to where she works PFChangs and drop it off there they will make sure she gets it.
At 9:00 am, JT called the apartment complex where Danni lived and asked them to put a note on her door for her to call her.

Before 12:00, Wednesday DW calls JT again stating her son (TT) had called Dannis phone, expecting to speak to Danni. That’s when DW had let TT (JTs son/Dannie’s babies father) know what had happened. DW was calling concerned about Danni. ***After he was asked to turn the phone in to her job that morning. He then offered to meet up with JT to return the phone to her, but JT decided to wait to hear from Danni first.
Jt went to the apartment complex around 4:00 pm And the note was still on the door. JT assumed Danni was hanging out with friends, and didn’t expect to see her until Thursday, July 19th, when her daughter returned from out of town. She had made plans to stay the night with JT and her daughter Thursday night, at JTs home, and never showed. At this point JT knew something was wrong. Danni never missed these opportunities. Ecspecially with her daughter.

At 7:30 am, Friday July 20th, JT receives a phone call from DW, as she’s walking out the door to file a missing persons report. Expresses his concerns, and agrees a report is necessary, and then meets JT at the police station. While waiting in the lobby, waiting to file the report, DW explains what had happened that night to JT. JT asked DW, “why were you on Hwy 90, when Ollie’s is right down the street from Dublin’s?” DWs response was, “I was actually headed home, and Danni must have gotten confused thinking I was headed to Ollie’s and followed me” Danni knows exactly where Ollie’s is, as she has worked there before.
The police station is on Airport Blvd, but JT and DW were sent to the Harold Johnson building on Government st. This is where the missing persons liaison is located.
DW had handed over Dannis phone to JT at the first police station.

DW got to the Harold Johnson building, before JT. As JT arrived, DW was giving his report to the Liaison. After DW was done, DW left, and JT then gave her report and handed over Dannis phone.

At 11:20 am, JT was contacted by one of Dannis friends, that stated Danni didn’t show for her shift at 11:00 am. While still sitting in the liaison office.

A part of DWs statement was that he returned to Dublin’s and was searching the Parking lot for Dannis phone, and a employee walked out and asked if he was looking for a phone Bc she had found one on the back of a car and turned it into the bar. He retrieved her phone from the bar and waited outside 20 mins, when she didn’t show up. He left. This was on the night of her disappearance.

Since then there has been NO contact with DW. Nor any of the others Danni was seen with that night by JT. None have reached out.

Per LE, the last ping from Danniella’s GPS on her car was at the shell gas station.

Marking timeline.

 

[whatinthekentuckyhell]

JDT & LE have both been in her account, primarily checking her PMs.

When you say checking her PMs, why would JDT need access to that info?
Why hasn’t the account been completely handed over to LE?

As far as I’m concerned, it’s been known NOBODY has been cleared.. including JDT and family.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

When you say checking her PMs, why would JDT need access to that info?
Why hasn’t the account been completely handed over to LE?

As far as I’m concerned, it’s been known NOBODY has been cleared.. including JDT and family.

Absolutely correct. Entire group around DNV is on the table as potential suspects IMO. LE hasn't publicly cleared any member of baby father family or the party train group which is quite interesting given that this investigation has been going on for a longish period of time IMO.

 

[Deleted member 227095]

If someone were to put something in her drink at Dublin’s how soon would she feel the effects of it? Do we know if she was for sure the one driving? Did she have a passenger in the car? If something was slipped in her drink and they wanted to get her out of Dublin’s quickly she could have dropped her phone and they didn’t realize it until after they left. If they gave her too much of something could it have made her sick in the car and that is why they pulled over or could it cause her to OD? I don’t know enough about that stuff tbh. This could make the people she’s with panic and disable the LoJack. I wouldn’t know where to even look for that let alone disable it... I keep going back to the fact she was happy and celebrating her new car. She was able to cross off a goal she achieved. She was getting her life on track. I personally don’t see her leaving voluntarily but possible.

The abduction theory at Dublins is an interesting one in line with comment above and rohypnol or similar drug being dropped into DNV drink at the bar.

Also this could possibly mean that it wasn't DV driving her car back to the the Shell station. I wonder if the reporter that saw the CCTV and said that DV was last seen at the Shell station and left in her own car was truly able to see this on the tape? It was dark and tape most likely was fuzzy. I would defer to reporter in most cases but maybe she just assumed that it was DV car and so thought DV was driving? This scenario could also mean that Car 3 wasn't part of the party train but could have had sole job of disabling lojack. If you google disable lojack it takes some doing. Maybe the ping that Pearl Motors got was the time that the lojack was disabled because I'm not sure its possible to disable the system without at least one signal to its base or LE. If someone is technically proficient with LoJack and could confirm this that would be helpful to understanding this all better. Here is some basic info on LoJack: What Is LoJack and How Does It Work?.


Here is some info on Rohypnol/Date rape drug. Impact of drug in 15-20 min and lasts up to 6 hrs. This probably assumes no alcohol in system and no other drugs so who knows what the impact might have been on a petite person that had been drinking and/or doing drugs? Rohypnol: Effects, Hazards & Methods of Abuse - Drugs.com. Could DNV simply have OD'd?

 

[Deleted member 227095]

When you say checking her PMs, why would JDT need access to that info?
Why hasn’t the account been completely handed over to LE?

As far as I’m concerned, it’s been known NOBODY has been cleared.. including JDT and family.

I agree with this statement and wonder why LE is permitting access of DNV social media accounts by anyone other than them post DNV disappearance? If the people that have supposedly been looking at DNV PM's had been cleared by the police in a public way perhaps an argument could be made about the reasoning for accessing the accounts but this entire situation is ethically troubling on any number of levels in my mind. This access could be interfering with the LE investigation and is highly troubling in my mind. I keep going back to what DNV would think about people accessing her accounts if she were here?

 

[cedgison]

I agree with this statement and wonder why LE is permitting access of DNV social media accounts by anyone other than them post DNV disappearance? If the people that have supposedly been looking at DNV PM's had been cleared by the police in a public way perhaps an argument could be made about the reasoning for accessing the accounts but this entire situation is ethically troubling on any number of levels in my mind. This access could be interfering with the LE investigation and is highly troubling in my mind. I keep going back to what DNV would think about people accessing her accounts if she were here?

I agree with you and @whatinthekentuckyhell - more needs to be released publically with regards to who has been cleared. I know JDT has been cleared but still think that needs to be said publically by LE.

 

[Alethea]

It looks like there is an Enterprise Car Rental right by the Shell station.

 

[cedgison]

The abduction theory at Dublins is an interesting one in line with comment above and rohypnol or similar drug being dropped into DNV drink at the bar.

Also this could possibly mean that it wasn't DV driving her car back to the the Shell station. I wonder if the reporter that saw the CCTV and said that DV was last seen at the Shell station and left in her own car was truly able to see this on the tape? It was dark and tape most likely was fuzzy. I would defer to reporter in most cases but maybe she just assumed that it was DV car and so thought DV was driving? This scenario could also mean that Car 3 wasn't part of the party train but could have had sole job of disabling lojack. If you google disable lojack it takes some doing. Maybe the ping that Pearl Motors got was the time that the lojack was disabled because I'm not sure its possible to disable the system without at least one signal to its base or LE. If someone is technically proficient with LoJack and could confirm this that would be helpful to understanding this all better. Here is some basic info on LoJack: What Is LoJack and How Does It Work?.


Here is some info on Rohypnol/Date rape drug. Impact of drug in 15-20 min and lasts up to 6 hrs. This probably assumes no alcohol in system and no other drugs so who knows what the impact might have been on a petite person that had been drinking and/or doing drugs? Rohypnol: Effects, Hazards & Methods of Abuse - Drugs.com. Could DNV simply have OD'd?

It has been rumored that one of the people DNV was with that night is known to slip roofies (Rohypnol) into girls’ drinks. Again, a rumor/not confirmed, but you bring up a good point about that being a possibility.

 

[cedgison]

Also @cedgison forgive me but has it been clarified on what Danniella was turning her life around from?

I don’t want to say too much but it is known that TT has had a drug problem for years. Could DNV have been in on that also and wanted to clean herself up (I.e. the goals list) - did somebody not like that?

We don’t even know if DW was car #3.

Another theory is somebody DNV knew/was closed with had a debt(maybe a drug debt?), and DNV got stuck in the middle of it.. Totally plausible in my opinion.

Perhaps “turning her life around” isn’t the best way to say it (though I know I and others have). I did just clarify this with JDT and she was working on self-improvement - the car to get around town instead of having to rely on others to take her to work. The car would also give her the availability to see her daughter more often. Then, after purchasing the car, the other things on her list of goals to continue on a path of self-improvement.

I did ask about drug/alcohol usage and JDT said she liked to drink and, at worst in terms of drugs, smoked weed.


[Edited to correct typos.]

 

[hotsytotsy]

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[ChiCubs2016]

It looks like there is an Enterprise Car Rental right by the Shell station.

Not sure if this is possible or makes sense, could DNV have followed DW to drop off the rental car, Maybe he was the first car, in the rental, then DNV arrived car #2, he left, dropped off rental and returned with his car, car#3? At that late hour, he would just drop the keys in the drop off box and leave. I read his car was at the rental place, not sure if this is accurate?
Also, something Otto stated about perhaps TT being jealous and maybe the 3rd car was him. That I know of, only one person - JDT, has said car 1 and 3 were the same (Unless I have missed something). Other folks who did see the CCTV said they could not tell.
I am leaning towards DW or TT. I think the affair thought with DW is a big possibility. And since TT's whereabouts are unclear, who knows, you might recognize his car in the CCTV and say car 1 and 3 were the same. MOO

 

[Alethea]

It has been rumored that one of the people DNV was with that night is known to slip roofies (Rohypnol) into girls’ drinks. Again, a rumor/not confirmed, but you bring up a good point about that being a possibility.

Do you know if that person is known to use harder drugs?

 

[hotsytotsy]

I have been thinking of the Rohypnol or GHB angle, but wasn’t sure if that was too speculative for this forum.

IMO this could be a factor in the timeline i.e. reason for Shell station stop after Dublin was that DV was swerving and pulled over at Shell to collect herself.

“Effects of the drug begin 15-60 minutes after use and typically last up to six hours. It can be detected in the urine up to 12 hours after ingestion.”

https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/date-rape-drugs

 

[ChiCubs2016]

I have been thinking of the Rohypnol or GHB angle, but wasn’t sure if that was too speculative for this forum.

IMO this could be a factor in the timeline i.e. reason for Shell station stop after Dublin was that DV was swerving and pulled over at Shell to collect herself.

“Effects of the drug begin 15-60 minutes after use and typically last up to six hours. It can be detected in the urine up to 12 hours after ingestion.”

Now you have me thinking of a 3rd possibility. I had a friend who was slipped GHB once. Within 5-10 minutes she definitely knew something was wrong, this is how the person (co-worker) tried her out of the bar. He was "helping" her get home since she seemed not to be able to drive. Fortunately for her, friends intervened and took her home. The last thing she remembered was getting in her friends car. It was not until the next morning everyone realized what happened. She was too embarrassed to go to the doctor or police.
Something damaging had to be on the CCTV, right? Why would LE not want it to be seen? Do they have a POI and did not want them to see something?

 

[hotsytotsy]

@ChiCubs2016 ... but then, dang it, IF DW car was actually 1st at Shell (are we taking that as fact in this thread?) and IF DNV car was 2nd into Shell (fact?) IMO DNV’s entry into the Shell parking lot would have been less than graceful, if DNV was feeling a drug effect kicking in.

IMO you have a good theory about the involuntary/unknown ingestion of a drug by DNV at Dublin.

Possibly the “DNV will follow DW to return rental car” scenario was the stated reason for going in that direction away from Ollie’s. Possibly the real intention was to create opportunity. I am heavily speculating here, MOO ONLY.

This timeline is so wonky.

ETA: also factoring in @cedgison comment in post #153 on this thread

2nd ETA: replaced DV with DNV for clarity

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Is there a news article or something that list the names of the party train? Just curious how folks can see FB pages. TIA

 

[cedgison]

Is there a news article or something that list the names of the party train? Just curious how folks can see FB pages. TIA

Good question! I don’t know if there will be one since they haven’t been cleared but I’ll see if I can find one for y’all.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

@ChiCubs2016 ... but then, dang it, IF DW car was actually 1st at Shell (are we taking that as fact in this thread?) and IF DV car was 2nd into Shell (fact?) IMO DV’s entry into the Shell parking lot would have been less than graceful, if DV was feeling a drug effect kicking in.

IMO you have a good theory about the involuntary/unknown ingestion of a drug by DV at Dublin.

Possibly the “DV will follow DW to return rental car” scenario was the stated reason for going in that direction away from Ollie’s. Possibly the real intention was to create opportunity. I am heavily speculating here, MOO ONLY.

This timeline is so wonky.

It really is. This whole case is bizarre. I understand LE keeping things under wraps but in other cases, we at least have people come forward that have seen the person last, saw them jogging?? Here the folks that were with her immediately prior to disappearing are not saying anything.

 

[ChiCubs2016]

Good question! I don’t know if there will be one since they haven’t been cleared but I’ll see if I can find one for y’all.

Thank you. Also you stated JDT has been cleared. How did you confirm this, by LE or JDT?