Its only been made public about the truck driving and he has been doing that since the AF
AL AL - J.B. Beasley, 17, & Tracie Hawlett, 17, Ozark, 31 July 1999 #4 *ARREST*
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Its only been made public about the truck driving and he has been doing that since the AF
Anyone can have a family somewhere and it not be "home" to them. I'm a lesbian and before I came out "home" wasn't "home" until I was accepted by my family. There was always a difference in shark as a person with friends or alone vs shark with family. So it is very possible that his address and home where to totally different things. I had an address with my family but I was home with my friends. If that makes sense.
It obviously hasn't bothered him for 20 years. And to play devils advocate, if and that's a big if he didn't kill the girls he knows something and has known for 20 years. Even if he had a sort of relationship with JB (which I do not believe he did) he has sat on that information for years, information that could have discarded the DNA evidence and allowed LE to focus on other aspects of the case (not saying that the DNA is the only thing they have on him, because I believe they have more than just DNA) so to me if he's not the actual person who pulled the trigger, he is just as guilty.
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I am using this quote because it is the latest one from you. Let me list the DNA events as they happened (to the best of what I've read or heard and interpreted:
1. DNA in the form of semen was left at the scene on (and later determined inside as well) the body of one of the victims.
2. For nineteen years that DNA was not linked to Coley McCraney because his DNA profile was not in any criminal or military database (he was never named a suspect in a crime that involved DNA nor did the military keep a DNA profile on him since it was not required by DoD to do so during the years of his service).
3. Somebody in his family uploaded their DNA profile to GEDMatch.
4. OPD requested help from Parabon with the crime scene DNA. Parbon, using the the GEDMatch system narrowed the field of potential "donors" down to a certain family tree.
5. OPD, using the info from Parabon, asked a local member of that family tree (Coley McCraney) to submit DNA to further narrow the field.
6. Based on lab results, Coley McCraney's submitted DNA sample matched the crime scene sample. The odds, as reported, of it being another person is greater than the number of humans that have every lived.
I may not believe Coley McCraney is guilty of murder AT THIS TIME, but I do believe the DNA. Although I don't believe that he did it (again, at this time), he is hardly "innocent". His DNA had to get on, and in, one of the victims. How should be discussed at a later time when concrete evidence or proof has been established. He has kept his silence for almost twenty years and this is not right. IMO he should be made accountable and to pay for this. Maybe spending upwards of a year in jail while awaiting for trial will serve for him to open up.
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Respectfully, but this post shows you do not understand genetic genealogy, which is factual science.
1) the genetic genealogists do not give the police suspects. They build family trees, which takes an enormous amount of research and time. They use factual evidence to build the trees: birth, marital and death records.
2) The police take the family trees and identify possible suspects, by using age, location etc. The possible suspects are investigated by the police. They gather DNA and the suspect is only arrested and charged after their DNA matches crime scene DNA
3) the DNA is not being “mistreated by being put into many systems”. Again, you have admitted you are not a scientist, so I think you misunderstand. The actual DNA is not put into GEDMatch. The police send the crime scene DNA to a lab, such as Parabon. The DNA is used to create a full DNA profile. The DNA profile is data, not the actual material. This DNA profile file is uploaded to GEDMatch, not actual DNA material.
4) in the GSK case, the coroner in one of the murder victims cases took 2 Rape Kits. The DNA in GSK case to submit for the full DNA profile came from the 2nd rape kit which had not been previously used.
The 2 links: 1) genetic genealogy explained 2) the 2nd rape kit in the GSK Smith murder.
Crime solvers embraced genetic genealogy
How 2 key ideas helped break 'Golden State Killer' case open: Investigator
Look I'm sure you have watched a crime show or two but unless you have a degree in crime scene investigation and many years experience on the job, I wouldn't say that you're better or more experience than someone who does this everyday on the job. I get that you can misidentify with genealogy BUT they THEN compared his DNA with the DNA at the crime scene and it was a DIRECT MATCH, not a guess of a group of people. His DNA is NOT going to directly match anyone else. You use the genealogy JUST to get an IDEA, Then send the person and crime scene to the state lab to see if it DIRECTLY MATCHES and ...........IT DID!! Now let's see who actually believes it was consensual. IF it was consensual then he should've came forward 20 years ago to fill in some blanks. There's no way you can get me to believe it was consensual WHATSOEVER!!
It seems that jaejae is just trying to muddy the water, nothing more.
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If so, then he or the perpetrator is very good or very lucky. In the real world, there is no luck.
You sound very intelligent and knowledgeable. What additional evidence do you think the prosecution may have in order to be confidently prosecute? Surely an experienced prosecutor will not rely solely on a singular piece of evidence. I could be wrong though.... after all ....
Just brainstorming...
Also a curious question for all.... I wonder what fire was put under the butts of OPD that caused them to interact with Parabon. This has been around for years now. In fact, initially funded by the DOD. I believe it was not Walker’s or the city’s initiative I am assured. I think a pressure that did not come locally certainly for the PD to make the expenditure. (>$4K). In fact I am certain of it. Whoever is the cause of it, I applaud you.
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I’d like to know where he worked in ‘99. I thought it was odd that during the press conference in March, McCraney’s wife said she didn’t remember where he was working when the murders occurred. She “knows him better than he knows himself” and tracks him via Life360 but can’t remember where he was working in 1999? They had no problem saying they wouldn’t comment on what he was doing the day of the murders. I’m sure they knew the press would also ask where he worked at the time. Why not just say they wouldn’t comment on that either? Maybe I’m reading too much into it?
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Innocent until proven guilty, yet lack of any explanation how McCraney’s DNA would be on clothing and inside one of the victims, he should remain behind bars until trial, IMO. Perhaps a hearing may shed light on other evidence, such as handprint on vehicle. I see no reason to let a suspect of 1st degree murder out on bail. DNA is science, fact, about as good as it gets, folks.
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Unfortunately "we" in the EU can't read this....
Can someone please give a 10% synopsis on this - and conditions of his bail?
TIA!
edited to add - or is just the same article as posted in #850?
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Unfortunately "we" in the EU can't read this....
Can someone please give a 10% synopsis on this - and conditions of his bail?
TIA!
edited to add - or is just the same article as posted in #850?
Basically the same information. One is the MSM television report; the other being the local newspaper report. Basically all the same.
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I think you will find that there will be no bond for Mr. McCraney.
Bond is extremely rare in capital cases.
Once everything comes out you will also find that OPD,DCSO, et.al had Mr. McCraney under human and electronic surveillance even before they asked him to submit a dna sample. The timeline laid out tells that tale once looked at closely. What better way to gather culpability than letting a suspect tip their own hand after the possibility of being caught than their actions after the thought of capture was planted in mind.
It’s a risk of flight, but with the magnitude of this case, enough resources were put into place to prevent that. Assured. Calculated risk to reward. After all, they could have arrested him anytime earlier, but he was pulled over in Daleville??? He had more than the tooth fairy watching him even before the dna sampling.
Sounds like real police work .... we will see.
It probably has taken the heat off others. Who knows ...
Bond is extremely rare in capital cases.
Once everything comes out you will also find that OPD,DCSO, et.al had Mr. McCraney under human and electronic surveillance even before they asked him to submit a dna sample. The timeline laid out tells that tale once looked at closely. What better way to gather culpability than letting a suspect tip their own hand after the possibility of being caught than their actions after the thought of capture was planted in mind.
It’s a risk of flight, but with the magnitude of this case, enough resources were put into place to prevent that. Assured. Calculated risk to reward. After all, they could have arrested him anytime earlier, but he was pulled over in Daleville??? He had more than the tooth fairy watching him even before the dna sampling.
Sounds like real police work .... we will see.
It probably has taken the heat off others. Who knows ...
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I don’t think they had him under electronic surveillance or human. They called him to come back to the police station which he was doing and they pulled him over and arrested him. Very odd.
I think they thought it was someone related to him. This entire case seems off to me and if I was on the jury I wouldn’t convict him based on DNA that doesn’t prove she was killed by him. If I lived in Dothan I would probably be the one of the main people wanted by prosecution but struck by defense. In my opinion it will be extremely hard to convict this man in Dothan. Hung jury IMO.
I think they thought it was someone related to him. This entire case seems off to me and if I was on the jury I wouldn’t convict him based on DNA that doesn’t prove she was killed by him. If I lived in Dothan I would probably be the one of the main people wanted by prosecution but struck by defense. In my opinion it will be extremely hard to convict this man in Dothan. Hung jury IMO.
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