Found Deceased AL - Paighton Houston, 29, left bar with 2 men, Birmingham, 20 Dec 2019 #3

[SaucyWalker]

I'll admit it; I cannot shake this case from my brain.

There have been no reports as to how long PH has been in recovery, but the frequency with which she phoned home on a typical day does not seem like typical behavior between an adult and parent unless, of course, she recently stopped using drugs OR her mother had reason to suspect PH was using again or was in a precarious state of mind. Parents of addicts often possess an uncanny ability, IMO, to sense their recovering child's "relapse meter" at any given time. I do suspect that PH was walking a thin line between sobriety and relapse. It could be that the holiday season, in and of itself, presented a risk to PH as it does to many recovering addicts.
PH's mother's own words: "She called when she got to work. She called when she went on break and then when she was leaving."

I'm with those who seriously doubt the coworker's story about PH leaving with the two men. But why would this person lie? The more I ponder that question the more I agree with others who have painted a picture of panic: The person(s) responsible may have given and/or administered drugs to PH drugs that caused her to OD. I think she/they may have panicked when realizing the possible repercussions of this and reacted in an impulsive and deceptive manner. I am also now more inclined to agree with the posters here on WS who wondered if the person or persons' decision to wrap the body was motivated by something more than mere pragmatism.

 

[alsleuther]

I think the body being wrapped could have simply been for ease of transport. I tend to think that the short amount of time spent at the Chapel Drive house indicates that location was just the dumping spot for the body. I think if LE suspected that PH was killed at or outside of that house that LE would have had been at that house more than a day or two, and that they wouldn't have left that huge pile of trash in the yard.

 

[bwt42]

With all respect to the late Savannah Spurlock, she didn't have a confirmed history of opiate abuse and rehab.

And I don't think her cause of death has been made public. jmo

 

[Warwick7]

There are links to pictures in the bar, which I thought was very clear and distinct (someone up thread posted that link).

Also there is a clear picture of the outside of the door( again someone up thread gave this link)

That said, there must be video cameras inside and outside that bar.

Also this link tells us that the bar itself takes security seriously because they have a habit of hiring off duty police officers to work on purpose.

And they were working that night.

Body found in Alabama search identified as Paighton Houston

 

[alsleuther]

There are links to pictures in the bar, which I thought was very clear and distinct (someone forehead posted that link).

Also there is a clear picture of the outside of the door( again someone up thread gave this link)

That said, there must be video cameras inside and outside that bar.

Also this link tells us that the bar itself takes security seriously because they have a habit of hiring off duty police officers to work on purpose.

Body found in Alabama search identified as Paighton Houston

I wonder if Tin Roof will install more cameras in the near future?

 

[Aurea]

I think her brother is aware

 

[bwt42]

I now have a theory in my own mind but cannot share because I have no proof. Jefferson county sheriff's department will let us know once cause of death is determined. This is aweful

Theories don't need proof

 

[CuriousBystander]

I did not go inside the bar into the best of my ability I did not see any cameras under the awning. I’m not so surprised about the outside. It’s not the classiest bar in town but I have seen way worse. There are a couple of other bars on the same street and a Hattie B’s chicken, a rather large restaurant that is always packed. I did see some people at the bar coming and going, mostly white, husband and wife bikers, some single white men, a black guy shooting pool. Not the best part of Bham for sure, but there’s plenty worse and this area is far better than it used to be. There are several businesses in the area, lots of them in fact. 8-5 Monday thru Friday these businesses would be open and busy, but at 5 on Friday it’s more of a night spot.

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

OK, no one is really mentioning the race issue. So I may get jumped on here. But the last time I was in Alabama racial tension still seemed to be a problem. Depending on the type of bar that she supposedly was at, at least a few people might have noticed who she was talking with and who she left with, simply from the aspect of race.

The description given regarding two men seemed coined to feed racism. And there’s no proof (we know of) that it ever happened.

Maybe she left in that way and maybe race is no longer an issue in that area, I certainly hope it is a thing of the past. But my gut says that description was given with a purpose.

JMO

I agree. I agree now that my Neurotypical Husband brought that to my attention. My naïve autistic self didn’t even think that that was an option. Like it wasn’t even in my hemisphere.

My initial thoughts vs my husband’s initial thoughts about P leaving with 2 black heavy set men:

My mind: I found nothing odd about that statement. I didn’t find it to be suspicious by any means. I wasn’t even thinking about that. My initial thoughts before reading others opinions here on WS & about what my husband said: What is considered heavy set for men?”, “What were they wearing”, “How old did they look”, etc...
My Neurotypical Husband’s (who lived half of his life in the south & the other half in a large metropolitan city) initial thoughts: Two black men? That sounds like a bunch of bullshirt. Obviously that person who made that statement is lying. They are trying to purposely throw off the investigation.

I learn so much from him & from everyone here on WS. I am so grateful that I found WS. It has been a great learning experience. I love reading everyone’s thoughts & opinions. It helps to broaden my horizons, see others POV’s!

 

[Warwick7]

I wonder if Tin Roof will install a surveillance system in the near future?

From the link up thread I believe they do have at least a video cam.

 

[CuriousBystander]

Any chance you walked past TR and noticed any video cams of other businesses around?

I saw no cameras on any businesses other than the office building across the street I did look at several buildings on the same block. The bar is next-door to an accounting office and I saw no cameras there. I’m sure Hattie B’s has cameras and they are a block or so down on the opposite side of street.

 

[MassGuy]

I think the body being wrapped could have simply been for ease of transport. I tend to think that the short amount of time spent at the Chapel Drive house indicates that location was just the dumping spot for the body. I think if LE suspected that PH was killed at or outside of that house that LE would have had been at that house more than a day or two, and that they wouldn't have left that huge pile of trash in the yard.

Absolutely agree. If you’re transporting a body, it’s probably a good idea to cover it up. Had she been found where she was killed, and her body was covered, then I’d read more into the significance of her body being covered (it typically suggests familiarity and remorse).

The way the location was investigated, indicates that this was a secondary location, and not the scene of her death (as you said).

 

[bestill]

Thank you for I have no clue why that is even being assumed at this point to be the case.

The same assumptions were made continously in the Savannah Spurlock's murder case as well.

She also left a bar with men. One who murdered her, and buried her in a shallow grave. SS did not OD as alleged by internet posters. She was murdered.

Imo

How long after Savannah's body was found did LE release COD? It was right away with Heidi Broussard which I was surprised that happened so quickly.

 

[Warwick7]

I think her brother is aware

Aware of what? Please elberate.

 

[bwt42]

A "tip" doesn't mean someone with knowledge of the burial site told LE. Could be LE asked associates of a possible POI what areas the POI was familiar with. jmo

 

[Momof4RN]

I'm not familiar with Aguilar case but if Paighton was wrapped in a bedsheet, dna is there in and on the fabric. It's jmo that will tell the story.

I now have a theory in my own mind but cannot share because I have no proof. Jefferson county sheriff's department will let us know once cause of death is determined. This is aweful

I think I may know where u r going with your theory and I suspect there is a probability you are correct.

 

[Seasleuth]

I think there is a high possibility that drugs came into play somehow if PH was or had been drinking that night.

Without getting too much into the neurons and pathways...

Here is how how alcohol can trigger a Heroin Addiction Relapse:

By the time people become addicted to heroin, their brains have come to associate a dopamine surge with the experience of taking the drug. When they consume alcohol or anything else that raises dopamine rapidly, the brain tends to rely on its old neural networks and to send a reminder that heroin can also cause this state. The association can trigger strong cravings and lead to relapse. Drinking can also trigger relapse simply because it lowers inhibitions and makes people more likely to do things they wouldn’t do otherwise, such as take a drug that once enslaved them.

 

[Wowno17]

I think she sent the message because it would be stupid / too risky for the perp/s to write what was said. Why not write you was ok. They would be risking someone beginning to look for her immediately.

Then again there are some stupid criminals out there.

 

[Aurea]

Her brother evan said it was a big red flag when he heard of her so called texts. He knew that wasn't her texting.

 

[CuriousBystander]

From the link up thread I believe they do have at least a video cam.

If there are any video cameras at that bar I would bet they are inside covering the registers. Anything showing online of the exterior of that building would more than likely have been done with a camera and not with a video security camera.