All Things Britney Spears - Thread No. 8

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I am watching CSI right now and they had on one of Brits songs...Gimme more. :( I hope she gets her life back together. I love her music.
 
I do have an iota of sympathy on the legal bills for KFed, they wouldn't be so high if Brit wasn't blowing off court dates and having public meltdowns.
 
I really hope for her two boy's sake and her own sake that she don't go back to her old ways. She could have such a wonderful life.. It will all be up to her though to make that decision. There comes a point where she has to start taking some responsibility for her own life. It's wonderful to see the changes in her as of late and I just pray to God it stays this way forever.




I wish we were seeing BS smiling more now, she just looks so flat,sad or lost most of the time. I worry as soon as her dad is out of the picture she'll go back to her old ways.



Jubie
 
I do have an iota of sympathy on the legal bills for KFed, they wouldn't be so high if Brit wasn't blowing off court dates and having public meltdowns.

I agree that she should pay for some of his legal bills but not his ex's credit card.
 
I agree that she should pay for some of his legal bills but not his ex's credit card.

Was a credit card the deal when she took Shar's partner away from her and her and Federline's children? :waitasec:
 
I really hope for her two boy's sake and her own sake that she don't go back to her old ways. She could have such a wonderful life.. It will all be up to her though to make that decision. There comes a point where she has to start taking some responsibility for her own life. It's wonderful to see the changes in her as of late and I just pray to God it stays this way forever.[/QUOTE

Excellent post Mygirlsadie. If Britney keeps improving mentally the less predators can cheat her. You could even graph that. I too pray that she continues to improve for her sake and the sake of her adorable boys.
 
Was a credit card the deal when she took Shar's partner away from her and her and Federline's children? :waitasec:
nobody TAKES anybody away- getting involved with him under the circumstances, is one whole subject in itself- but she did not TAKE him--HE left his pregnant partner for her--
 
well thank you Chiperoni.. and they are pretty adorable aren't they! :)






Excellent post Mygirlsadie. If Britney keeps improving mentally the less predators can cheat her. You could even graph that. I too pray that she continues to improve for her sake and the sake of her adorable boys.[/quote]
 
Was a credit card the deal when she took Shar's partner away from her and her and Federline's children? :waitasec:

nobody TAKES anybody away- getting involved with him under the circumstances, is one whole subject in itself- but she did not TAKE him--HE left his pregnant partner for her--

I totally agree!! I don't mean to 'gang up' on you Floh, but no-one can force another to leave their family.

Having said that, for the life of me I cannot imagine why anyone would be in a big hurry to marry and get preggers by someone who finds it so easy to walk away from the family they already started.

NOW, Having said THAT, I don't know why I feel it's ok to judge this situation, when if it were happening to someone I knew, I would keep my mouth shut!
 
I do have an iota of sympathy on the legal bills for KFed, they wouldn't be so high if Brit wasn't blowing off court dates and having public meltdowns.

But he might be able to contribute some money towards those fees if he wasn't leaving $2000.00 tips and bothered to get a job. I think it is a disgrace that he is blowing his children's child support this way. Oh, and I am SURE that his children are getting benefit from that $20,000.00 of jewelry he bought....again with his children's child support. I hope the judge comes down hard on him after hearing crap like this.:bang:
 
Let's just say she took his attention away from partner and children then. :)

with all she could offer him. ;)
 
But he might be able to contribute some money towards those fees if he wasn't leaving $2000.00 tips and bothered to get a job. I think it is a disgrace that he is blowing his children's child support this way. Oh, and I am SURE that his children are getting benefit from that $20,000.00 of jewelry he bought....again with his children's child support. I hope the judge comes down hard on him after hearing crap like this.:bang:


WHy should he pay legal bills she caused?? I am no fan of his but he also get alimony I think and I would assume a good lawyer would request that Brittany pay the legal fees since its her fault for not showing up Etc..
 
WHy should he pay legal bills she caused?? I am no fan of his but he also get alimony I think and I would assume a good lawyer would request that Brittany pay the legal fees since its her fault for not showing up Etc..


Huh???
Fathers/Mothers sue for shared/full custody every day and their spouses don't pay THEIR legal bills.

This fight started BEFORE Britney had issues and KFed just wanted MORE custody. Indeed it escalated but THAT is no reason Britney should pay KFed's Lawyer's bills for Kevin to FIGHT HER on the children. She is paying TWICE - her lawyers and HIS...where is THAT FAIR? Especially since the last I checked, KFed was an able-bodied, young man, twice married with children from TWO wives. Why can't HE PAY HIS OWN LEGAL BILLS like very other father?? Or at least pay SOME of his own bills?

Britney is paying KFed adequate child support - AND paying to support his ex wife and her children with Kevin - and paying all his legal bills to fight her too. SO long as KFed's lawyer is on the Brit Gravy Train KFed is NEVER gonna be done "fighting" Brit for SOMETHING. And BRit will NEVER be done paying KFed to fight her and her OWN lawyers to defend her from KFed's lawyers. It's a never-ending vicious circle and the only people benefitting are THE LAWYERS. It isn't costing KFed anything to take Brit to court over and over - so he will keep doing it!

The judge should put a STOP to that - like yesterday!

My Opinion
 
WHy should he pay legal bills she caused?? I am no fan of his but he also get alimony I think and I would assume a good lawyer would request that Brittany pay the legal fees since its her fault for not showing up Etc..


His lawyers have power billed on this case. They've had more than one attorney appear in court at a time for "housekeeping" types of issues for one thing.

Britney has, through her own erratic behavior, caused the need for many of the court appearances, but KFed's legal team have fed like pigs at the trough.

Oh, and I think that KFed is a professional bum. IMO
 
Huh???
Fathers/Mothers sue for shared/full custody every day and their spouses don't pay THEIR legal bills.

This fight started BEFORE Britney had issues and KFed just wanted MORE custody. Indeed it escalated but THAT is no reason Britney should pay KFed's Lawyer's bills for Kevin to FIGHT HER on the children. She is paying TWICE - her lawyers and HIS...where is THAT FAIR? Especially since the last I checked, KFed was an able-bodied, young man, twice married with children from TWO wives. Why can't HE PAY HIS OWN LEGAL BILLS like very other father?? Or at least pay SOME of his own bills?

Britney is paying KFed adequate child support - AND paying to support his ex wife and her children with Kevin - and paying all his legal bills to fight her too. SO long as KFed's lawyer is on the Brit Gravy Train KFed is NEVER gonna be done "fighting" Brit for SOMETHING. And BRit will NEVER be done paying KFed to fight her and her OWN lawyers to defend her from KFed's lawyers. It's a never-ending vicious circle and the only people benefitting are THE LAWYERS. It isn't costing KFed anything to take Brit to court over and over - so he will keep doing it!

The judge should put a STOP to that - like yesterday!

My Opinion

Actually, many "regular" folks who sue over custody wind up with one party having to pay the other party's legal fees - that is not at all odd if certain factors are at play.

The Judge (if asked to do so) in this divorce has total discretion about who pays the legal bills and we have to accept the fact that the Judge knows a lot more about this case than we do.

From an outsider's point of view, Britney's antics have cost Kevin's attorneys and the Court a whole lot of time and money. I am not at all surprised that she is being Ordered to pay his legal fees.
 
WHy should he pay legal bills she caused?? I am no fan of his but he also get alimony I think and I would assume a good lawyer would request that Brittany pay the legal fees since its her fault for not showing up Etc..
NOPE!!! Alimony had ended in November 2007. He is using his kid's child support. When my ex and I had to fight in court for his children because their mother left them unattended for weekends when they were 9 and 11, WE paid the court costs for our part. No, "we" didn't cause the situation, yet "we" had to pay our own attorney. She played all kinds of games for over a year, while the children were left alone. CPS had to get involved. Again, this didn't matter. We paid. Most parents pay their own costs, no matter who is at fault. I love you to death Amraann and usually agree with you, but I guess in this case, we will have to agree to disagree. By the way, I HATE parents who live off children's child support...be it a woman or a man. That is not the way it was intended. Child support was intended to be used as "PARTIAL" support toward the child with the other parent ALSO paying part of the cost of raising the child. Somewhere, somehow, this has been turned around. I see some parents expect that because they have custody...that the other parent is supposed to pay for the TOTAL support of the child! I have had some of my good friends say...I am taking so and so back to court because 700.00 a month is not enough to raise little junior. I say back...well of COURSE it isn't! You should be putting in equal amounts also, and I think that 1400.00 a month will certainly do the trick, don't you think!?!?! ;) Child support is way too often used as support for the ex spouse. IMO of course.
 
His lawyers have power billed on this case. They've had more than one attorney appear in court at a time for "housekeeping" types of issues for one thing.

Britney has, through her own erratic behavior, caused the need for many of the court appearances, but KFed's legal team have fed like pigs at the trough.

Oh, and I think that KFed is a professional bum. IMO
Well said IM.
 
NOPE!!! Alimony had ended in November 2007. He is using his kid's child support. When my ex and I had to fight in court for his children because their mother left them unattended for weekends when they were 9 and 11, WE paid the court costs for our part. No, "we" didn't cause the situation, yet "we" had to pay our own attorney. She played all kinds of games for over a year, while the children were left alone. CPS had to get involved. Again, this didn't matter. We paid. Most parents pay their own costs, no matter who is at fault. I love you to death Amraann and usually agree with you, but I guess in this case, we will have to agree to disagree. By the way, I HATE parents who live off children's child support...be it a woman or a man. That is not the way it was intended. Child support was intended to be used as "PARTIAL" support toward the child with the other parent ALSO paying part of the cost of raising the child. Somewhere, somehow, this has been turned around. I see some parents expect that because they have custody...that the other parent is supposed to pay for the TOTAL support of the child! I have had some of my good friends say...I am taking so and so back to court because 700.00 a month is not enough to raise little junior. I say back...well of COURSE it isn't! You should be putting in equal amounts also, and I think that 1400.00 a month will certainly do the trick, don't you think!?!?! ;) Child support is way too often used as support for the ex spouse. IMO of course.

Just to add a few thoughts to your post Dea - I know my ex's salary has gone up substantially since we split and established our child support amounts. My lawyer has told me numerous times it could be very costly to take him back to court and challenge this, and there have also been numerous changes in child support guidlelines that may not be favorable for a redetermination, either, so that I have let the situation lie. My child support amount doesn't begin to cover expenses for the children. Just in the last 2 weeks, my daughter had expenses of over 1/2 my monthly amount from my ex, $500, relating to a extracurricular activities, a school trip and her birthday gift and party (which I gave). He often *advertiser censored* about his support going to "me." All I can say is this: those kids have spent all but one night a week and every other weekend at my house, for nine years. Do you feel support going to keeping the boat afloat, i.e. housing, food, gas, electric, phone, etc., as well as clothing, activities, etc. is appropriate? In addition to support, we have split extracurriculars and now we split college, down the middle, something that is becoming increasingly difficult for me. He makes 2-3 times more than I do. Is half fair at this point?

It is hard for me to imagine KFed and Britney squabbling because they have enough to go around, any way you look at it. Still there is a fairness factor that often gets overlooked.

I know I am struggling with it in my own life.

Eve
 
Just to add a few thoughts to your post Dea - I know my ex's salary has gone up substantially since we split and established our child support amounts. My lawyer has told me numerous times it could be very costly to take him back to court and challenge this, and there have also been numerous changes in child support guidlelines that may not be favorable for a redetermination, either, so that I have let the situation lie. My child support amount doesn't begin to cover expenses for the children. Just in the last 2 weeks, my daughter had expenses of over 1/2 my monthly amount from my ex, $500, relating to a extracurricular activities, a school trip and her birthday gift and party (which I gave). He often *advertiser censored* about his support going to "me." All I can say is this: those kids have spent all but one night a week and every other weekend at my house, for nine years. Do you feel support going to keeping the boat afloat, i.e. housing, food, gas, electric, phone, etc., as well as clothing, activities, etc. is appropriate? In addition to support, we have split extracurriculars and now we split college, down the middle, something that is becoming increasingly difficult for me. He makes 2-3 times more than I do. Is half fair at this point?

It is hard for me to imagine KFed and Britney squabbling because they have enough to go around, any way you look at it. Still there is a fairness factor that often gets overlooked.

I know I am struggling with it in my own life.

Eve
Eve, I understand where you are coming from. First off, the specific situation I was talking about had to do with two teachers...making almost the same amount. My friend thought her ex should support the ENTIRE cost of the children. I let her know that he is paying HIS HALF. Now, since they made almost the same amount of money, I felt as if she should chip in the same amount as he does. She felt like "her" money was her own....as if she had nothing to do with the children being born in the first place!:rolleyes: Now, some other situations were like K-fed. The wives were staying at home "raising the children" which of course were all school aged and even old enough to stay at home for a short period of time (15, 17) and in the other situation (14,17,18). They were living off the child support entirely! NOT what child support was intended for. One was taking her ex back to court so SHE could buy a new car for HERSELF! In both of these cases, the money was substantial, and so the ex spouses thought they should sit on their asses and live off of their ex. I am soooooo not into that scene. I gently pointed out to one of them that they no longer "needed" to stay at home with the children and why didn't she go back to teaching to buy her "own" car. She blew up and said that I was not taking her side. I simply said I was taking the "children's" side....which was to use the money for them or set up some kind of fund with the excess of the money if it was not needed for their direct use. I don't like freeloaders. K-fed has a staff helping him raise the children, so he could work and contribute to his attorney fees and support his own partying and jewelry, as well as his own personal expenses. Now back to your post. Of course doing "your part" doesn't mean a 50-50% split of the money. If he makes more, then he should pay a bigger percentage of the split. Does that make sense? Also, no where in your post do I see you saying that you are not working and paying your part. :) Food, clothing, shelter for the children, insurance on the home, etc. are all part of raising the children. Now, I am sure that the child support that you are receiving is not covering all of this...and you are doing your part to pay the difference. I am sure you are not buying your own personal clothing or going out partying with your children's child support. (Just by reading your posts in the past makes me think you are NOT THIS TYPE OF PERSON! LOL) Also, I am SURE that you don't leave a 2000.00 tip from your children's child support payment.:bang: :bang: :bang:
I have a child that is going to be a doctor so I TOTALLY understand the scary cost of college. Also, when was the last time you treated yourself to jewelry at the expense of your ex's support payments? I didn't think so. I am on your side. Really I am. I am sad to think that your ex thinks that "you" are the one that he is supporting. This seems to be the attitude of so many men and women that pay support. In many cases, it is justified anger, but with as many cases it isn't. I hope the kids don't hear him say that to you. That would be just heartbreaking. Keep your chin up. Kids know who is there for them. Also, congrats to your super student in college. I know you are proud of them! :Dtypo
 

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