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Interesting article about the woman from KY who became GA's first swine flu victim. Thank God for the doctors and nurses at Emory who helped get her on the road to recovery, although it sounds like she still has a long road ahead of her.

I think the scariest sentences are these two:

"Doctors are still at a loss to determine why the virus hit her so hard. She had no underlying health issues."

http://www.ajc.com/services/content..._flu_patient.html?cxtype=rss&cxsvc=7&cxcat=13
 
Experts Keep Wary Eye on Tamiflu-Resistant Swine Flu

"This is not unexpected, but it's very unpredictable whether this will end up spreading," said Dr. John J. Treanor, professor of medicine and of microbiology and immunology at the University of Rochester Medical Center in New York.

More from US News and World Report at:

http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/07/08/experts-keep-wary-eye-on-tamiflu-resistant-swine.html

Liars and idiots. The doctor told me they aren't EVEN TESTING FOR IT ANYMORE...I requested the test. No need. If you have the flu in FRIGGIN JULY, Bingo...duh, no brainer they say.

I also wish they would explain in these DEATH articles exactly what the underlying health issues are so that people would be more informed.

I mean, I got it while having a bladder infection and yeast infection - is that an underlying health issue? I mean really, the reporting on this is a joke.
 
Liars and idiots. The doctor told me they aren't EVEN TESTING FOR IT ANYMORE...I requested the test. No need. If you have the flu in FRIGGIN JULY, Bingo...duh, no brainer they say.

I also wish they would explain in these DEATH articles exactly what the underlying health issues are so that people would be more informed.

I mean, I got it while having a bladder infection and yeast infection - is that an underlying health issue? I mean really, the reporting on this is a joke.

ITA. I assume they can't go into much detail because of HIPPA, but I am surprised that some of the families haven't come forward to tell their stories. Unless the "underlying health issue" was particularly embarrassing, I think I'd be sharing that info so that others who have it could take extra precautions.
 
Wow, I haven't been over here at Websleuths for a long time, now, and just came over here today. There is a LOT of disinformation on this forum re: the swine flu 'pandemic.'

Here are two websites which offer up-to-date information; legal information is also going to be continuing as well.

Here are the two sites: http://www.pandemicfluonline.com/;

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny's site (board certified physician): http://drtenpenny.com/Swine_Flu_to_Bird_Flu.aspx;

Snip from Dr. Tenpenny's site re: 'swine flu' (which is a combo of 3 types -- human, bird and swine, which was genetically engineered in a lab (documented)):

SNIP: Comparing Swine flu to Bird Flu

May 1, 2009

"Remember Bird Flu hype in 2006, caused by the H5N1 virus that was “supposed” to be the next pandemic? The claim was the death rate was 50%. Only the deaths of very ill persons who died in hospitals and had a positive test for H5N1 were reported."

"Hundreds of thousands of individuals with H5N1influenza were not sick enough to require medical care, as confirmed by Dick Thompson, spokesperson for the WHO. In an interview with CIDRAP News in March 2005, Thompson stated:

“The obvious assumption is that others are infected and either not getting sick, or not getting sick enough to seek treatment at a hospital. Factoring those patients into the death rate [makes it] impossible to determine, because the denominator is unknown.”

"Dr. John Allen Paulos, professor of mathematics at Temple University, concurred with Thompson’s observation. Paulos asserted that the reported death rate, based only on cases of severely ill persons, is an “almost textbook case” of sample bias. He explained that asymptomatic people, and those who have recovered uneventfully, aren’t part of the mortality rate calculations. As a consequence, the numbers are skewed substantially upward."

The same CDC report from April 30, 2009, goes on to report:

“The clinical spectrum of S-OIV (swine flu) illness is not yet well characterized in Mexico. However, evidence suggests that S-OIV transmission is widespread and that less severe (uncomplicated) illness is common. Patients with confirmed disease have been identified in several states, and suspected cases have been identified in all states, which suggests that S-OIV transmission is widespread. To date, case- finding in Mexico has focused on patients seeking care in hospitals, and the selection of cases for laboratory testing has focused on patients with more severe disease. Therefore, a large number of undetected cases of illness might exist in persons seeking care in primary-care settings or not seeking care at all.”

"It seems to me that every time the pharmaceutical companies want some money, they encourage the government to hype some crisis, and money pours into their coffers. President Obama asked for the release of an additional $1.5billion. This adds to the $7bn the drug companies got in 2005 through BioShield II and the $2bn the government spent to purchase stockpiles of Tamiflu."

"The reported fatality rate of bird flu was close to 50 percent— like the 2001 reports of smallpox having a 30 percent fatality rate. It is a mathematical absurdity promoted for the sole purpose of frightening the public into accepting massive government regulations and submitting to vaccination. Be Aware: The Swine Flu hype is essentially the same."
 
Info. re: Swine Flu Debacle 1976 - Los Angeles Times:

Link: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/27/science/sci-swine-history27;

SNIP:

"The government wanted everyone to get vaccinated," Ward said. "But the epidemic never really broke out. It was a threat that never materialized."


What did materialize were cases of a rare side effect thought to be linked to the shot. The unexpected development cut short the vaccination effort -- an unprecedented national campaign -- after 10 weeks.

The episode triggered an enduring public backlash against flu vaccination, embarrassed the federal government and cost the director of the U.S. Center for Disease Control, now known as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, his job.

"The pandemic fears of the time and the resulting vaccine controversy may be fueling some of the public's -- and media's -- anxiety about the current outbreak, said health officials who recalled the previous event."
 
Yes, folks are getting sick with this flu bug, but the hype over this bug is also there as well. Most people, as the CDC has documented and stated as fact, recover very quickly from this flu. The percentages of people who actually get some sort of Ili (influenza like illness) and who actually DIE from the INFLUENZA, is very low, indeed. Normally, those that do not handle the flu well, are those who are already immunocompromised.

There are more people dying from MRSA infections, than are dying from the flu. The vaccine ingredients in the flu vaccine are as follows:

By Dr. Sherri Tenpenny

1. What are the ingredients of the annual flu shot?

• Egg proteins: including avian contaminant viruses such as avian leucosis

• Gelatin: known to cause allergic reactions and anaphylaxis - usually associated with sensitivity to egg or gelatin proteins

• Polysorbate 80 (Tween 80): can cause severe allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis

• Formaldehyde: known carcinogen

• Triton X100: a strong detergent

• Sucrose: table sugar

• Resin: known to cause allergic reactions

• Gentamycin: an antibiotic

• Thimerosal: 49.6 percent ethyl mercury (still in multidose vials);
 
Folks, should the Feds MANDATE you receive the swine flu shot this Fall, you need to know the government (CDC) has already signed off on a Bill which will prevent any drug manufacturer of the vaccine from liability should this vaccine injure and/or kill you. Unlike in 1976, when just ONE person died from the flu, hundreds were left with Guillain-Barré Syndrome and received compensation from the government.

I will be attending the National Vaccine Information Center's Conference this Fall in Washington, D.C. This issue with the H1N1 flu will be the focus of the conference. Many physicians and scientists, many from around the globe, will be participating in this Conference. It will be interesting to hear what they have to say.

There is grave concern, indeed, about this H1N1 vaccine they propose ALL OF US TAKE. There will be little to NO SAFETY STUDIES performed on this vaccine (an issue with any vaccine). Five days is the limit for the so-called safety trials -- not nearly long enough.

The NVIC is a Pro-Choice/Pro-Informed Consent organization (non-profit). If you decide to receive any vaccine, you should know what the ingredients are in any vaccine you receive, and what the possible reactions may be to each ingredient. Many physicians are now warning of the dangers of vaccines and how little it has been understood how these vaccines affect our immune systems.

This H1N1 vaccine is scaring a lot of professionals out there because of its potential for risks unforeseen, until it his the public (who are going to be the human guinea pigs for this).

Please...educate yourselves about this so-called pandemic before you rush out to get this new vaccine. I implore you to spend some time examining all the issues re: this pandemic, how best to take care of your health during the 'pandemic,' and what to know and understand about this vaccine should you decide to receive it.
 
Liars and idiots. The doctor told me they aren't EVEN TESTING FOR IT ANYMORE...I requested the test. No need. If you have the flu in FRIGGIN JULY, Bingo...duh, no brainer they say.

I also wish they would explain in these DEATH articles exactly what the underlying health issues are so that people would be more informed.

I mean, I got it while having a bladder infection and yeast infection - is that an underlying health issue? I mean really, the reporting on this is a joke.


Hi Ziggy, I hope you are feeling better. Being sick in July is awful.

I had the flu about a month ago and it turned out NOT to be H1N1. It was a huge surprise to both me and my doctor (who had already had three positive tests out of her practice).

Fever. Sore throat. Coughing. Headache. Body aches. Vomiting. It was definitely a flu. So there must be a few floating around out there!
 
Hi Ziggy,

Yes. YOU had underlying health complications -- in other words, you were immunocompromised at the time you also contracted the flu.

There is a LOT more going on behind the scenes with this so-called flu pandemic than meets the eye. For example, Baxter Laboratories, just but one of the Big Pharma companies involved in producing the H1N1 vaccine, is now being investigated because of its link to its release of a contaminated virus in Austria.

Article Here: http://www.prisonplanet.com/baxter-to-develop-swine-flu-vaccine-despite-bird-flu-scandal.html;

SNIP: "As reported by multiple sources last month, including the Times of India, vaccines contaminated with deadly live H5N1 avian flu virus were distributed to 18 countries last December by a lab at an Austrian branch of Baxter."

"It was only by providence that the batch was first tested on ferrets in the Czech Republic, before being shipped out for injection into humans. The ferrets all died and the shocking discovery was made."

"Czech newspapers immediately questioned whether the events were part of a conspiracy to deliberately provoke a pandemic, following up on accusations already made by health officials in other countries."

"Initially, Baxter attempted to stonewall questions by invoking “trade secrets” and refused to reveal how the vaccines were contaminated with H5N1. After increased pressure they then claimed that pure H5N1 batches were sent by accident."

"Since the probability of mixing a live virus biological weapon with vaccine material by accident is virtually impossible, this leaves no other explanation than that the contamination was a deliberate attempt to weaponize the H5N1 virus to its most potent extreme and distribute it via conventional flu vaccines to the population who would then infect others to a devastating degree as the disease went airborne."

Folks -- again, you need to dig a little deeper about this so-called pandemic to more fully grasp what is truly going on out there. Remember the smallpox issue -- happened not so very long ago.

Remember when President Bush was stating after 9/11, that there was going to be a smallpox release threat and we should all just roll up our sleeves and accept the smallpox vaccine?

Remember what happened (or I should say what didn't happen)? The government was calling for all First Responders (medical doctors, nurses, etc.) to line up first and get their vaccines. A few of those First Responders did just that -- 2 lost their lives -- the vaccine killed them. Word got out and the outcry was so huge, because it was KNOWN in inside medical circles how dangerous this vaccine really was, and they just said NO. First Responders said we're not going to roll up our sleeves with a jab of something which isn't even a threat to begin with, and has the potential to severely injure us, and/or kill us.

Campaign was effectively KILLED right then and there. Ever wonder why the so-called smallpox threat NEVER MATERIALIZED?

If that isn't enough to scare you, I don't know what is. But I still remember the fiasco that was the 1976 flu/swine flu campaign propaganda. I was attending Bowling Green University back then. I very vividly remember the students all lining up to get their swine flu vaccine. At the last moment, Providence stepped in and I backed out of the line. I pretended to have had the flu shot and pretended to have a reaction -- just so I wouldn't be made to receive that shot. I'm SO glad I did -- many students had severe reactions to that vaccine.

Fearmongering at its best and its sad to say, our Media panders up to the Big Pharma guys all the time.

There are many good websites to follow re: this pandemic issue. I've listed two of them above. Do your homework re: this flu thing. And remember -- most of us who are healthy and have no serious underlying health conditions, WILL GET OVER THE FLU JUST FINE. You don't know what's in these vaccines -- there are truly very harmful ingredients which are just only now being understood as to how they impact our immune systems.

We contract live viruses up our respiratory tracts passageways and/or through our gastrointestinal passageway. But live viruses which are injected directly into your bloodstream can wreak all kinds of damage; these viruses and adjuvants contained in live viral vaccines have a direct passageway to your vital organs. This causes your immune system to behave in a way vastly different than when you contract a live virus via the NORMAL PASSAGEWAY route.

Read up on vaccine safety issues -- most especially before you would allow ANYONE to tell you to take the swine flu vaccine.
 
Folks, should the Feds MANDATE you receive the swine flu shot this Fall, you need to know the government (CDC) has already signed off on a Bill which will prevent any drug manufacturer of the vaccine from liability should this vaccine injure and/or kill you. Unlike in 1976, when just ONE person died from the flu, hundreds were left with Guillain-Barré Syndrome and received compensation from the government.


Please...educate yourselves about this so-called pandemic before you rush out to get this new vaccine. I implore you to spend some time examining all the issues re: this pandemic, how best to take care of your health during the 'pandemic,' and what to know and understand about this vaccine should you decide to receive it.

I only copied the portion of your post which pertains to me. :)
In 1976, my great-grandmother came to live with us after receiving the swine flu shot. She was in her eighties and it nearly killed her. She was with us for a month while suffering from GBS. She was the only one in the family to receive the shot, but we were all told not to get it after her near death. While I have wonderful memories of sharing my bedroom with her (she passed away at 101), I wish she hadn't had to suffer. After watching her, I WILL NOT be getting this vaccine, period. (I also refuse the pneumonia vaccine every year because another grandmother nearly died from it.) I DO get the regular flu vaccine since I am well-exposed while teaching seventh graders. Keep your kids home when they're sick!!!
 
It is still kicking around in Orlando, Florida, which is no surprise as we have a lot of tourists.
 
Pandora,

I'm so sorry to hear what happened to your great-grandmother. Both of my parents received shots years ago (one each) and BOTH reacted so severely, they were told to never get the vaccine again. I cannot believe how many people I have run up against who have told me about their reactions to the flu vaccine. It's just amazing...

Here is a transcript of a great interview done by Mike Wallace way back when...when the Swine Flu debacle was over. It's a 60 Minutes piece and bang-up journalism...back in the good 'ol days when TRUE journalism still existed. :rolleyes:

Here's the link (this will really open your eyes up): http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/04/...wine-flu-vaccine-injuries-lack-of-safety.html
 
Orlando swine flu deaths are at "two dozen" per today's news on News 13.
 
You may want to ask your TV news anchor to verify their stats. According to the CDC website, here: http://www.cdc.gov/H1n1flu/update.htm, the number of deaths to this flu in the State of Florida, is at 12 for the swine flu (CDC website last updated July 17, 2009).

However, if you view their so-called 'stats,' the CDC when it lists the number of actual cases of the flu, lists their numbers here as both CONFIRMED and/or PROBABLE.

So -- what does that tell you? It tells you that the CDC is 'cooking' the numbers -- how MANY flu cases are indeed, confirmed, and how many are probable? Why are they even including 'probable' cases in their numbers? There is a test that CAN confirm whether or not a person has the swine flu. Ili's (influenza like illnesses) should NOT be included as confirmed cases of the swine flu.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny has a great website. Just GOOGLE her name in and you will find her website. Dr. Tenpenny is a board certified physician and has studied the CDC's own stats against itself, when presenting her seminars re: vaccine safety and efficacy.

Dr. Tenpenny is passionate about informing people the 'true' benefits/risks of vaccine usage.
 
Important article to read re: swine flu, here:

SNIP, with link below:

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Tuesday, July 21, 2009

"A top epidemiologist has slammed the “dangerous fearmongering” behind the swine flu scare and dismissed it as nothing more than the product of an industry licking its lips at the prospect of a profitable pandemic."

"In an interview with German news outlet Spiegel Online, epidemiologist Tom Jefferson chastised doomsday predictions about pandemics that seem to arrive almost every year now."

“One of the extraordinary features of this influenza — and the whole influenza saga — is that there are some people who make predictions year after year, and they get worse and worse. None of them so far have come about, and these people are still there making these predictions. For example, what happened with the bird flu, which was supposed to kill us all? Nothing. But that doesn’t stop these people from always making their predictions. Sometimes you get the feeling that there is a whole industry almost waiting for a pandemic to occur,” said Jefferson.

"Jefferson states that pharmaceutical companies have built a machine around the impending pandemic and are already cashing in."

“And there’s a lot of money involved, and influence, and careers, and entire institutions! And all it took was one of these influenza viruses to mutate to start the machine grinding,” he adds.

"Indeed, government proclamations about the inevitability of swine flu returning as a more potent threat this fall have helped fuel massive profits for pharmaceutical companies who are “reaping billions of dollars in extra revenue amid global concern about the spread of swine flu,” according to a Financial Times report."

LINK: http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-epidemiologist-slams-swine-flu-fearmongering.html
 
Last two paragraphs contained within the article above:

"Jefferson also discussed why seasonal influenza vaccines were all but useless, because flu viruses mutate while the very vaccine to combat them is still in production, making the shot mostly ineffectual when actually administered, not to mention potential side-effects."

“The importance of influenza is completely overestimated. It has to do with research funds, power, influence and scientific reputations,” said Jefferson, adding that drugs like Tamiflu have also been linked with “psychotic reactions similar to those found in schizophrenics.”


 

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