I was in a work meeting today yabbering away and at the end said just my opinion. My boss looked quite impressed my workmates smirked. x
Bit irrelevant, but pastor Ian looks like he would fit in well with the Baden-clay boys brigade...
http://www.northreach.org.au/about-us/whos-on-the-team
'ooooh, Betty, put that out in the morning'. Lucky he has god on his side
We know she had a chipped tooth. If that were caused by a blow with something hard (unlikely to be a fist) then I'm a bit surprised that there was no split lip as well.
If a blow to the front of the face caused a nosebleed, they can be the source of quite a deal of blood, and would be consistent with those photos of the Luminol tests in the car. Just one possibility. No external cut or wound, but plenty of blood.
But - another question comes to mind.... if the blood was enough to contaminate the back of the car and show up on the Luminol test - then WHERE was the injury (whatever it was) caused? I would have thought that a decent nose bleed, for example, would cause even more blood at the original site of the attack, and that no matter how carefully the clean up job was carried out, this too would show up on a Luminol test.
So, thinking logically, if that really was Allison's blood in the back of the car, then there almost certainly would have to be more of the same at the actual attack site, plus possibly drips etc if the body was carried to the car.
Of course, the other possibility is that the attack was somewhere very close to the car - maybe a blow to the face to get her into the car - alive (conscious or otherwise) then driven to either Kholo Creek, or the scout camp at Tyamolum, where she died by whatever cause was determined by the autopsy - assuming they DID find a cause.
Still a lot of unknowns - let's hope the police have a lot more knowns....
Just a question for those legal minds out there. If a person is convicted and sentenced of a crime, what are the possibilities re appeal?
i.e. if verdict appealed, and original verdict upheld, I'd assume the sentence would remain the same.
BUT
if sentence is appealed, there is the possibility that the sentence could be decreased OR increased?
Is this correct - just thinking ahead - if GBC is found guilty and sentenced, and he chooses to appeal, is there a risk involved, particularly in relation to the sentence?
'Taking the fifth': The case against alleged wife-killer Gerard Baden-Clay
June 27, 2012.
April 21, 2012
Mr Baden-Clay voluntarily attended the Indooroopilly Police Station with his lawyers and voluntarily provided a DNA sample and allowed police to take photos of his body.
Scratches and abrasions on his chest, torso and neck were photographed.
April 22, 2012
Mr Baden-Clay was involved in an accident on the way to Indooroopilly police station. Police allege there no brake marks at the scene and Mr Baden-Clay refused to answer questions about the crash.
They allege the crash was staged to "mask injuries or to cause self-injury".
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...d-badenclay-20120626-210bz.html#ixzz1zq5sMNCt
Totally agree. I think Olivia would have known the chances of bail for murder were not good so I cant see that you would be shocked. But her look to me was one of being stunned as if learning something totally unexpected - I've seen the same expression, unfortunately, on people who have lost their job unexpectedly. To me her expression says totally blindsided. I suspect learning about the google searches, insurance phone calls and facetime call were the cause of this.
Earlier, the judge took aim at the morons who exposed four sisters to the media, saying those involved should be ashamed.
Things seem to have gone quiet on the accomplice/accessory front. I haven't seen anything reported lately.
I hope this hasn't proven a stumbling block for investigators........would hate to see someone get away with such behaviour.
I'm curious about Monday. If it were my brother and I heard all that read out in court about him, I'd be just as shocked as she looked, and I think I'd sneak home and never been seen at any of his appearances again. I wonder if she will be at the mention or whether the penny has dropped and she has seen him for what he is. Time will tell.
So, I've been thinking about the blood and hair found in the car. From a perhaps different point of view, and from what we know:
- How does QPS tie in this blood spatter to the murder of Allison?
- How does QPS know that the blood is not from an earlier/previous incident?
- How does QPS tie in a strand of hair, found in a car that belonged to the
victim, to the circumstances of her murder?
You cannot tell how old a blood spatter might be, can you??? The strand of hair could have been left at anytime, for any number of reasons??? Allison herself could have folded the seats down to transport something in the car?? And nicked her knuckles or something??? (Been there, done that)
For me, these are not pieces of evidence that help to convince me that the car was part of the murder or evidence of removal of a body. Not yet, not at this time.
Fire away!
So, I've been thinking about the blood and hair found in the car. From a perhaps different point of view, and from what we know:
- How does QPS tie in this blood spatter to the murder of Allison?
- How does QPS know that the blood is not from an earlier/previous incident?
- How does QPS tie in a strand of hair, found in a car that belonged to the
victim, to the circumstances of her murder?
You cannot tell how old a blood spatter might be, can you??? The strand of hair could have been left at anytime, for any number of reasons??? Allison herself could have folded the seats down to transport something in the car?? And nicked her knuckles or something??? (Been there, done that)
For me, these are not pieces of evidence that help to convince me that the car was part of the murder or evidence of removal of a body. Not yet, not at this time.
Fire away!
I am going to put my money on Olivia being there again and Ma & Pa keeping clear.
I think Baden Clay senior would be nervous to be around all those cops and handcuffs esp ones that might have his name on them lol.
QPS are using this as proof her body was moved by car..hence interfering with corpse
So, I've been thinking about the blood and hair found in the car. From a perhaps different point of view, and from what we know:
- How does QPS tie in this blood spatter to the murder of Allison?
- How does QPS know that the blood is not from an earlier/previous incident?
- How does QPS tie in a strand of hair, found in a car that belonged to the
victim, to the circumstances of her murder?
You cannot tell how old a blood spatter might be, can you??? The strand of hair could have been left at anytime, for any number of reasons??? Allison herself could have folded the seats down to transport something in the car?? And nicked her knuckles or something??? (Been there, done that)
For me, these are not pieces of evidence that help to convince me that the car was part of the murder or evidence of removal of a body. Not yet, not at this time.
Fire away!
I guess we do know that they had only had the car for six/eight weeks I think? Short period of time to get blood on a car in two places in that time. And I think in unlikely areas. But possible? Yes. Likely? And as her hair may have just been colored, maybe thy can tell that due to chemical residue but just MOO
The only way I can think and we've not heard this yet from QPS is that there was evidence of it being freshly spot cleaned that morning. Possibly still damp and or the smell of cleaners. JMO
Correct me if I am wrong however from memory, you mentioned on an earlier thread that shortly after death a body can emit blood from certain orafaces? Marly may help me with that link.