Gecko100
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I agree that Patrick was a victim. If Ms. Hoyle made up the quotes, then why wouldn't Patrick, who needed money, sue her paper? On the other hand, if his interview with her were taped and he really said them, then of course he would not be able to sue the paper (sherlockh, Ms. Knox has more pressing matters to attend to than suing the Daily Mail IMO). I don't equate using marijuana with being drugged up and I have no idea what spotted amnesia is, but to each his or her own. Despite Mr. Lumumba's claims, Ms. Knox apologized on several occasions, including at the start of the appeal. There is actually remarkably little detail in the statements Ms. Knox gave. As noted by someone else, "As far as we know, since there is no interrogation tape, the interviewers let up on Amanda just as soon as she implicated Patrick. Don't you think that's strange? I mean, after all the work it took to get that out of her, don't you think they would want to know the entire story, step by step? How and when did Amanda and Patrick make their plan? What did Patrick say to Meredith when they got there? Did Meredith willingly go into the bedroom with Patrick, or did she ask Amanda what was going on?
Then for Amanda to say she woke up in Raffaele's bed the next morning? Come on! Is that good enough for the Perugian police and prosecutor? How about WHEN did you leave the cottage? HOW did you get to Raffaele's? Did Patrick walk you there? What did you and Patrick talk about after the murder? What did Patrick do with his bloody clothes? Do you think you might have gone back to the club first? Did Patrick seem nervous?" link.
Federico Aldrovandi was also a victim, and he fared much worse than Mr. Lumumba. He was unarmed, yet some cops beat him to death. When his mother referred to the police as delinquents, they sued a grieving mother. At one point the police protested at her place of work. If that case doesn't raise yellow flags, then I suggest one look into the murder of Sarah Scazzi.
Rouge cops are everywhere, I'm sure I could find examples of hundreds of of them in the USA, does that mean the whole of the USA is corrupt and illogical? Uses faulty science and targets drugged up white people from overseas just because they can?
Should I trash your justice system your culture your science philosophies your media and million other sundry other things about USA society?
Should I discuss overt racism to white people?
Mind you, the Arias trial has me thinking it is...given the same amount of hyperbolic hysterical media beamed daily across the world.
Not only that, it is a non-self reflexive media seeking only to garner ratings and sales, that much is very very obvious. It does nothing to criticise it's own negative influence, so I often don't believe a single word they say. It is left to my own objective reasoning to make sense, and because this is a world wide web, and some objective reasoning does exist. I certainly have no illusions about the Daily Mail and it's readership, it's syndicated news like most news, and contains very little to absolutely no objective analysis. It's also highly conserving of status quo attitudes, from a sociological perspective.
Without a doubt AK, has been tried and convicted for her lying about Mr Lumumba and spent 4 years in prison for it. She ruined his life, his livelihood, reputation, and caused trauma to him and his family. And he had to move to Poland as a very broken and traumatised man.
That is an indisputable fact.
He currently has a civil suit against her. He may also suffer from PTSD, I don't know, but it is highly likely after such a disturbingly awful experience.
She was a silly irresponsibly immature girl who got drugged up to the eyes and was not in control of herself. Not much has changed, and she continues to lie along with her equally irresponsible immature ex who used mountains of drugs by his own admission.
He was the most experienced of the two in the drugs department. Where did he score?
High usage of drugs is equitable with self-medication.
I don't find it a stretch at all in considering guilt, and I'm still not convinced that marijuana was the only drug they were using.
That's what made me think why RG turned up imo, they were scoring...
Then it's not hard to imagine that they had no ready cash in their drugged foggy state, but Meredith did.
Her money went somewhere...perhaps you or Otto or might know?
I'm sure RG would not have appreciated a drug trafficking conviction on top of murder, so why even mention it?
Why would the other two either, since it might harm their middle-class 'reputations' and question their usage further?
Two immature irresponsible damaged young people looking for risky thrills and drugged out of their childish minds? Both of them in very much in 'lust' for each other. They could hardly communicate.
Middle-class overindulged children, with firmly held values and beliefs, in their very conservative minds. Being naughty is very attractive to children who have exhibited no obvious signs of maturity to the world.
Having a conserving mindset is very linked to racial inequality and bigotry, from a societal perspective not just mine.
One who used very questionable *advertiser censored*, and the other who had already disturbed the peace? Both using drugs...
Who knows what was on his mind, bestiality is not 'normal'. Or we would all have some.
I don't need to read any media, books, or anything to envision where that might end up with 3 multi-cultural victims, it's not hard to see a bigger picture based on my own professional experiences.
Analysis appears to get bogged down in repetitive details that lead nowhere, an objective meta analysis might be more useful to some, but not others. I appreciate that, but my argument is as valid as any other.
Details are not my thing, and others on the thread do that very well and commendably, I prefer an analysis from my own psycho/social perspective and objectivity, because that's how I analyse phenomena.
Both approaches are valid, but focus on different areas.
I really don't think we have a whole 'story' yet from the woman who considers herself to be racially vilified for 'being a white woman', but has three multi-cultural victims. One of whom she did time for...
That is laughably stupid...and enormously highly insensitive to Meredith's Anglo/Indian family, and her black victims.
It is extraordinarily offensive.
Her absolute lack of empathy for any of these people is quite frankly astonishingly worrying.
They are always an afterthought, even Patrick Lumumba whom she owes a very very public apology too for forever tainting his life circumstances.
And yes, she calls it her 'story', amongst the many other dubious very conflicting 'stories' she has told.
She is not a 'victim' neither is he, they are murderers.
Meredith Kercher gets no say in this, and still remains horribly mutilated and terrorised by more than one person.
Poor Meredith, she was a little tiny bright star and everybody loved her very bones. She had big aspirations to do absolute good in this world, even at the tender age of 20.
Such a mindlessly selfish waste