Anthony's Computer Forensics

[RR0004]

I don't think we should throw out any forensic evidence at all. I just think we need to cross examine it and make sure it is valid evidence. Gosh, that is just getting to the truth. Whats wrong with that?

I have never said that evidence shouldn't be used. I have just wanted the whole truth of the evidence. Gosh, wouldn't anybody?

I don't mean to sound silly, but Who is Shaniya Davis? I have never heard of such a person. Why would they post to me? I don't know of this person.

It is important that we get to the truth of the matter in computer forensics. Things are not always what they seem. Computers get viruses , power surges, Malware (others on your computer from remote places without you even knowing) , different user profiles, unsecured networks. There are a lot of things that can effect a computer. So I don't think we should assume anything. I think we should fully sleuth it in the name of Justice for Caylee and getting to the whole truth for her and for her only.

...and you honestly don't think that LE has done just that? I'll take them at their word.

PS- How can a chloroform search be a product of a virus if CA has been the one who admitted to doing the search? (not like that's true)

PPS- Yes, Caylee deserves the truth...if you think there is someone else involved, please by all means, investigate it.

 

[ZsaZsa]

...and you hobestly don't think that LE has done just that? I'll take them at their word.

PS- How can a chloroform search be a product of a virus if CA has been the one who admitted to doing the search? (not like that's true)

PPS- Yes, Caylee deserves the truth...if you think there is someone else involved, please by all means, investigate it.

So someone might download a virus onto my PC for the lone purpose of researching how to make Chloroform, then get into my locked car and put Chloroform in there too? Cyberwizardry!

 

[KenoshaKid]

I don't mean to sound silly, but Who is Shaniya Davis? I have never heard of such a person. Why would they post to me? I don't know of this person.

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Shaniya Davis is the little girl whose mother sold her into prostitution and whose body they think was just found in NC.

 

[LambChop]

Not only can the time be wrong on a computer, but the year and the month can be wrong too.

There is also a daylight savings option that has options from all the way around the globe.

There is also a cmos or system bios clock that can be set wrong as well.

The battery can go dead or intermitten and effect the time also.

At anytime a lightning surge or a power surge or a spike or even a brown out (less power) can cause settings to change. Sometimes going back to the default sometimes not.

So you know we are talking about CA's computers here, laptop and desktop. Cindy the "I have to clean up that smell in the damn car" Cindy. Am I correct? Cindy would never let her computer continue with the wrong date or time. LOL, maybe GA, but never Cindy.

 

[OneLostGrl]

been meaning to ask you the same thing, for the same reason

No theory. I have no clue at all what happened to her.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I don't think we should throw out any forensic evidence at all. I just think we need to cross examine it and make sure it is valid evidence. Gosh, that is just getting to the truth. Whats wrong with that?

I have never said that evidence shouldn't be used. I have just wanted the whole truth of the evidence. Gosh, wouldn't anybody?

I don't mean to sound silly, but Who is Shaniya Davis? I have never heard of such a person. Why would they post to me? I don't know of this person.

It is important that we get to the truth of the matter in computer forensics. Things are not always what they seem. Computers get viruses , power surges, Malware (others on your computer from remote places without you even knowing) , different user profiles, unsecured networks. There are a lot of things that can effect a computer. So I don't think we should assume anything. I think we should fully sleuth it in the name of Justice for Caylee and getting to the whole truth for her and for her only.

well he!!, get to sleuthing!

 

[Mendara]

I don't think we should throw out any forensic evidence at all. I just think we need to cross examine it and make sure it is valid evidence. Gosh, that is just getting to the truth. Whats wrong with that?

It is important that we get to the truth of the matter in computer forensics. Things are not always what they seem. Computers get viruses , power surges, Malware (others on your computer from remote places without you even knowing) , different user profiles, unsecured networks. There are a lot of things that can effect a computer. So I don't think we should assume anything. I think we should fully sleuth it in the name of Justice for Caylee and getting to the whole truth for her and for her only.

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There are only so many pieces of evidence that the defense can toss to coincidence so please have your pick, but you can't have them all. If you want to say that the computer evidence is a coincidence then fine - let's say it is and maybe it was computer virus that made the searches appear to be linked to planning a murder and then an actual murder did occur and this was a coincidence. But you can't claim everything is a coincidence.

1. The smell of the death in the car was pizza not death and it is only a coincidence that CA claimed the pizza smelled of a dead body and it turned out that a dead body was in the car.

2. It was just a mere coincidence that KC claimed ZG lived at Sawgrass and that there was actually a ZG that was looking to move in to sawgrass.

3. The computer searches on chloroform and the actual finding of chloroform are a mere coincidence caused by a computer virus.

4. KC's comment about Caylee being near home and her body actually being found steps from the home is just a coincidence.

5. DC rummaging through the woods looking for a bag in almost the same spot Caylee was later found was just a coincidence.

6. A bottle found in the woods containing chloroform is a coincidence to the chain of chloroform connections, to the car, the computer and now the woods.

7. KC not being upset when a possible body was found by the water in the park and her being upset by the body found near her parents home was just a coincidence.

8. Not calling LE on the day Caylee went missing but getting a tattoo about how sweet your life is was just a coincidence not at all connected.

9. Losing your phone/blackjack SIM card whateva it was that contained all of the contact info needed to find your daughter is a huge unfortunate coincidence.

10. KC's mother by coincidence happened to wash major items that were potential evidence on the very day it was discovered a child was kidnapped is just again an unfortunate coincidence.

shall I go on????????

Coincidence: a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance.

THEY ARE NOT ALL MERE CHANCE. There are so many more.

 

[robotdog]

well he!!, get to sleuthing!

i concur !:twocents:

 

[OneLostGrl]

i concur !:twocents:

hehe I figured you would. :innocent:

 

[Intermezzo]

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There are only so many pieces of evidence that the defense can toss to coincidence so please have your pick, but you can't have them all. If you want to say that the computer evidence is a coincidence then fine - let's say it is and maybe it was computer virus that made the searches appear to be linked to planning a murder and then an actual murder did occur and this was a coincidence. But you can't claim everything is a coincidence.

1. The smell of the death in the car was pizza not death and it is only a coincidence that CA claimed the pizza smelled of a dead body and it turned out that a dead body was in the car.

2. It was just a mere coincidence that KC claimed ZG lived at Sawgrass and that there was actually a ZG that was looking to move in to sawgrass.

3. The computer searches on chloroform and the actual finding of chloroform are a mere coincidence caused by a computer virus.

4. KC's comment about Caylee being near home and her body actually being found steps from the home is just a coincidence.

5. DC rummaging through the woods looking for a bag in almost the same spot Caylee was later found was just a coincidence.

6. A bottle found in the woods containing chloroform is a coincidence to the chain of chloroform connections, to the car, the computer and now the woods.

7. KC not being upset when a possible body was found by the water in the park and her being upset by the body found near her parents home was just a coincidence.

8. Not calling LE on the day Caylee went missing but getting a tattoo about how sweet your life is was just a coincidence not at all connected.

9. Losing your phone/blackjack SIM card whateva it was that contained all of the contact info needed to find your daughter is a huge unfortunate coincidence.

10. KC's mother by coincidence happened to wash major items that were potential evidence on the very day it was discovered a child was kidnapped is just again an unfortunate coincidence.

shall I go on????????

Coincidence: a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance.

THEY ARE NOT ALL MERE CHANCE. There are so many more.

BRAVO :clap: BRAVO :clap:

 

[ZsaZsa]

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There are only so many pieces of evidence that the defense can toss to coincidence so please have your pick, but you can't have them all. If you want to say that the computer evidence is a coincidence then fine - let's say it is and maybe it was computer virus that made the searches appear to be linked to planning a murder and then an actual murder did occur and this was a coincidence. But you can't claim everything is a coincidence.

1. The smell of the death in the car was pizza not death and it is only a coincidence that CA claimed the pizza smelled of a dead body and it turned out that a dead body was in the car.

2. It was just a mere coincidence that KC claimed ZG lived at Sawgrass and that there was actually a ZG that was looking to move in to sawgrass.

3. The computer searches on chloroform and the actual finding of chloroform are a mere coincidence caused by a computer virus.

4. KC's comment about Caylee being near home and her body actually being found steps from the home is just a coincidence.

5. DC rummaging through the woods looking for a bag in almost the same spot Caylee was later found was just a coincidence.

6. A bottle found in the woods containing chloroform is a coincidence to the chain of chloroform connections, to the car, the computer and now the woods.

7. KC not being upset when a possible body was found by the water in the park and her being upset by the body found near her parents home was just a coincidence.

8. Not calling LE on the day Caylee went missing but getting a tattoo about how sweet your life is was just a coincidence not at all connected.

9. Losing your phone/blackjack SIM card whateva it was that contained all of the contact info needed to find your daughter is a huge unfortunate coincidence.

10. KC's mother by coincidence happened to wash major items that were potential evidence on the very day it was discovered a child was kidnapped is just again an unfortunate coincidence.

shall I go on????????

Coincidence: a striking occurrence of two or more events at one time apparently by mere chance.

THEY ARE NOT ALL MERE CHANCE. There are so many more.

And then got rid of the washer and dryer pronto!
Thanks, great post.

 

[Crabcake23]

And then got rid of the washer and dryer pronto!
Thanks, great post.

Then got rid of the washer and dryer? What did I miss?

 

[notthatsmart]

So you know we are talking about CA's computers here, laptop and desktop. Cindy the "I have to clean up that smell in the damn car" Cindy. Am I correct? Cindy would never let her computer continue with the wrong date or time. LOL, maybe GA, but never Cindy.

I totally agree that Cindy is organized. That being said, if one of many options happened to reset her clock, Again she would go in there and correct it again and again. I know that sounds like a coincidence, but computer clocks get corrected quite often.

I wonder if they are looking at google time for the searches or CA computer time.

 

[Bittiness39]

I totally agree that Cindy is organized. That being said, if one of many options happened to reset her clock, Again she would go in there and correct it again and again. I know that sounds like a coincidence, but computer clocks get corrected quite often.

I wonder if they are looking at google time for the searches or CA computer time.

You can also check with the internet provider. Much like cell phone companies, irregardless of whether or not someone has accounted for the time change (October-March-daylight savings) the official records will still be there.

Having said that, were I Cindy, I would have killed GA for blowing the $60,000 workers comp check on whatever. Especially when they had an 11% interest on a home that CA was crafty enough to help them get. I would perhaps be searching for my own household weapons to whack him. JMO.

The searches may or may not be used. Everything that the SA's office has collected via LE is released to the defense. It doesn't mean that it will be used at trial.

 

[cecybeans]

I totally agree that Cindy is organized. That being said, if one of many options happened to reset her clock, Again she would go in there and correct it again and again. I know that sounds like a coincidence, but computer clocks get corrected quite often.

I wonder if they are looking at google time for the searches or CA computer time.

I'm sure that any computer forensics person would have been able to reconcile the initial times of searches with real time - not only that, I'd think any search times could be double-checked with the search engine org. Bios clocks can be changed, but it is normally a manual operation from what I understand and not contingent upon power fluctuations (when I lived in FL I never had a problem with computer clocks and my power went on and off daily). In addition, if the bios clock went off, it would probably revert to mfg standards default and if that occurred I'd assume that any computer specialist would be able to compensate. I know we have some real experts here and I'd love to see them weigh in, not just about how probable the situation would be, but how likely it would be that someone could counterbalance.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Within the computer there are many date and time stamps that will be easily recognized by any forensic specialist...or so my better half says.

 

[notthatsmart]

I'm sure that any computer forensics person would have been able to reconcile the initial times of searches with real time - not only that, I'd think any search times could be double-checked with the search engine org. Bios clocks can be changed, but it is normally a manual operation from what I understand and not contingent upon power fluctuations (when I lived in FL I never had a problem with computer clocks and my power went on and off daily). In addition, if the bios clock went off, it would probably revert to mfg standards default and if that occurred I'd assume that any computer specialist would be able to compensate. I know we have some real experts here and I'd love to see them weigh in, not just about how probable the situation would be, but how likely it would be that someone could counterbalance.

Yeah that is what I was talking about in the OJ case where they decided to not bring up the time of the reciepts at that restaurant. I thought that okay so its off, just compensate the difference. They did not compensate the difference, and I will never understand that to this day.

I do believe that settings in general are contingent upon power fluctuations. Especially brown outs. It is like connectoritis, can't really come up with a reason for it, buts its there and its real. I do not base this on logic. I base it on 15 years of experience in IT.

 

[cecybeans]

Yeah that is what I was talking about in the OJ case where they decided to not bring up the time of the reciepts at that restaurant. I thought that okay so its off, just compensate the difference. They did not compensate the difference, and I will never understand that to this day.

I do believe that settings in general are contingent upon power fluctuations. Especially brown outs. It is like connectoritis, can't really come up with a reason for it, buts its there and its real. I do not base this on logic. I base it on 15 years of experience in IT.

I sincerely hope that the experts in this case will have all their ducks in order. (And I agree with V. Bugliosi about how sloppy the prosecution was in that case, I doubt it will happen here.) Technology has certainly improved since then, as have computer forensics.

My better half is a techie, so I rely on him for information, but he rolls his eyes about my interest in this case (being a mom and grandmom of a two-year-old has made this seem personal) so I don't often ask. We are certainly lucky to have so many SME's on this forum though. Thanks for your input.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I'm sure that any computer forensics person would have been able to reconcile the initial times of searches with real time - not only that, I'd think any search times could be double-checked with the search engine org. Bios clocks can be changed, but it is normally a manual operation from what I understand and not contingent upon power fluctuations (when I lived in FL I never had a problem with computer clocks and my power went on and off daily). In addition, if the bios clock went off, it would probably revert to mfg standards default and if that occurred I'd assume that any computer specialist would be able to compensate. I know we have some real experts here and I'd love to see them weigh in, not just about how probable the situation would be, but how likely it would be that someone could counterbalance.

WE lose our power almost every time we have a storm around here, and I always go to my PC when it's over to find out the correct time so I can correct all the other clocks.. mine seems pretty accurate despite the weather..

 

[cecybeans]

WE lose our power almost every time we have a storm around here, and I always go to my PC when it's over to find out the correct time so I can correct all the other clocks.. mine seems pretty accurate despite the weather..

Same here. And I used to live in FL where it happens several times a day - especially when they have rolling blackouts. Brownouts you can usually control with good power strips, so that is never a question. And these days automatic back-up is a feature on most computers. I never once had to reset a computer clock when I lived there and that was ten years ago when they were all clunkers. But I am no computer expert.