Anthony's in Denial? Why Stand by Casey? POLL ADDED Part#2

[Mystic]

I wonder if the A's ever did any research on how to lie and be convincing?
http://charlotterileydesignpractice.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-lie-convincingly.html

lol... apparently not

 

[countzero]

I wonder if the A's ever did any research on how to lie and be convincing?
http://charlotterileydesignpractice.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-lie-convincingly.html

Naw, they contributed to and were part of the research project.

In being serious now, this family will be used in the future as a teaching tool for upcoming legal and medical students.

Somehow I don't think this is exactly how the A clan wants to be remembered in history.

 

[passionflower]

may I add to "SAVE THEIR OWN BUTTS!"

 

[OneLostGrl]

Naw, they contributed to and were part of the research project.

In being serious now, this family will be used in the future as a teaching tool for upcoming legal and medical students.

Somehow I don't think this is exactly how the A clan wants to be remembered in history.

It would be nice if they used the tapes of themselves as a learning tool, wouldn't it?! Ya know, to learn how to act right.

 

[songline]

Respectfully snipped....



Very good and valid point, but remember...

1. In CA also told LE in one interview that they rmoved the battery just in case anyone tried to get the car. She went on to say...no one in particular. (hmph right). Both CA and GA contend that Casey had open access to the house at any / all times; so, I can't see them parking the car in the garage (with or without battery-if battery was in garage too) as a method to keep "anybody"; specifically Casey from taking the car.

2. Although Cindy says LE knew about the clothes...I find that one hard to believe. Aside from the fact that she lies, or often tells mistruths; I think her emphatically stating all of the things that LE "didn't want / didn't take" were intentionally mentioned during interviews, because she was trying to cover her tracks.

I personally think that they started the clean up as soon as they got the car home. I can't imagine and don't believe that GA went to work after picking up the car. Remember the car smell was so bad, that just the thought of it made him physically sick during his interviews. IMO, NO WAY did he just drop the car and go to work.

:clap:Right On!

 

[songline]

I believe CA has a "gang mentality" and if the rumor is true that she attacked Casey and tried to choke her the evening she learned Casey had stolen money, how can we believe Casey wouldn't hurt her child when Cindy attempted to physically harm her child when she did something she didn't approve of? Children learn by example and what goes around comes around. CA needs to let go of her "gang mentality" attitude which IMO defines her to a tee and explains why George is afraid of her. CA won't back down under any circumstance and when she attacked Casey, something stopped her from killing her, whether it was Casey herself as she fought back, or Lee and George. I believe after the fight with Cindy, Casey cracked, lost all self control and killed Caylee who was too weak to fight back and didn't have anyone on hand to help her. If I remember correctly, George wasn't too proud of the pictures he saw of Casey on the internet and he stated his thoughts publicly.....

ITA: I agree that KC did not learn good parenting from CA. Absolutely not.

I just am not sure we can blame CA if KC did the deed.
I think too much is blamed on parents. While these parents are , the blame should go to KC if she did the deed.

But The part I made bold The distasteful photos is definitely one of the things I believe they were fighting about too not only the stolen money, maybe not that night but surly in the days before she left the house.
GA knew about them before LE told him, I remember early on that he discovered them on the computer.

I also think that CA had asked CAYLEE some questions on that trip to see grandpa; the baby was verbal at that point and I think that is probably why KC took the baby with her so she wont be able to ask her anything more. JMO

 

[songline]

Naw, they contributed to and were part of the research project.

In being serious now, this family will be used in the future as a teaching tool for upcoming legal and medical students.

Somehow I don't think this is exactly how the A clan wants to be remembered in history.

I am so glad you qualified that: LOL :blowkiss:
to legal and medical students as part of a research....
Or to LE as part of detecting a con game.

Because them being used to teach anything else is scary.

 

[songline]

may I add to "SAVE THEIR OWN BUTTS!"

BINGO!
I think that is what their entire motive has been from the start, the foundation says so.
Its purpose has its own language. Better Income, New life Style...
CA even said out of something bad something good happened.
NO I do not believe for one second that was not an immediate plan for income,
The clean up was part of the risk they took as new business owners.
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE - well they already lost her...
so they may as well just save themselves. (makes me sick).

Nobody will trust them anyway, so the foundation is doomed any how...
Just a matter of time.
JMO

 

[TallyHo]

Naw, they contributed to and were part of the research project.

In being serious now, this family will be used in the future as a teaching tool for upcoming legal and medical students.
Somehow I don't think this is exactly how the A clan wants to be remembered in history.

BBM - This is absolutely true, IMO. The more discovery/interviews that come out the more it appears that Casey has a serious personality disorder and never should have been given the responsibility of caring for Caylee. And to watch how her family interacts with her is a study unto itself. I've given up trying to figure out the logic of how Cindy, especially, thinks. Because there is no logic to it. Listen to her interviews with LE, the FBI, and her depositions with the SA. :banghead: Something that stood out to me above everything else (and that's saying something) is when the FBI agent asked Cindy if she had ever asked Casey why she told Amy that her parents were giving her the house, and she says "no". And the SA asked her, while discussing all of the people Dominic C was investigating, whether or not she had asked Dominic to check into Casey's work history and activities - and the answer was, drum roll please................... "no". :banghead: They are going to be studying this case and these people a hundred years from now.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I have never thought they were in denial. It's more a case of total arrogance and disdain for anyone who challenges her on Cindy's part- George was at first willing to discuss events fairly truthfully as they had happened, and he was in shock more than denial at the beginning, but Cindy's attitude has always been "How DARE anyone question me !- then that filtered down to George.
She who must be obeyed...

 

[kaRN]

They initially had the car in the garage but by the next day, when LE came to pick it up, it was in the roadway (per LE documents). So, they did what they needed to do and when they couldn't stand the stench any longer, they moved it.

MOO

Apart from not calling 911 immediately on opening the car in the tow yard, I've never understood, if not for the sake of tampering with evidence or covering something up, why the A's wouldn't have trashed every single thing in that car that had been exposed to the stench.
They threw away the donated toys, strangers left for the third birthday Caylee never got because they reeked of smoke supposedly. The pretend 'work' pants get washed however. Like Tide can wash that odor away.
I can't get around that inconsistency.

 

[wonders]

I wish I knew how to answer the poll above. These people make me feel like I have been smoking crack or something. I just don't understand why the A's have behaved the way they have, it is so confusing to try to keep all of their nonsense in a straight line, I think it zig zags all over the place. They make me crazy.
I don't know why they have been so adamant in their lies and standing behind KC the way they have, it seems to me that Caylee never exsisted to them unless they want to go on TV and pull things out like the shrine and death certificate for money.
I just don't know.

ETA:
I also think it is way to late for them to back peddle on anything now. To me it would be like trying to put out a grease fire with water.

 

[Brini]

I wonder if the A's ever did any research on how to lie and be convincing?
http://charlotterileydesignpractice.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-to-lie-convincingly.html

Nope-- they are not that convincing.

Their lying comes naturally. They've been rearranging history, forever.

My dad did that.

 

[Brini]

I was discussing a thought I had with a friend of mine.. we were going on about how when one member of a family dies, is incapacitated, or for any reason unable to be part of a family, other members sometimes step up and take over part of the missing persons persona.. start playing their role for them..
hubby is sick, Mom slaps on the constructin boots and starts hammering nails into boards.. or takes over his job as president, or whatever.. Mom dies, eldest daughter starts raising younger siblings and taking care of her mothers former duties with the household finances..
It can be a little odder when a child dies.. a little strange in a way.. my sister lost her 18 year old daughter, next thing I knew my sister was wearing 'teenage' clothes, (mostly red and black, which her daughter had favoured), and had cut her hair to resemble the way her daughter wore her hair. She talked and acted much younger than she had used to. It took several years before she reverted back to being her old self compleatly.

Anyway to get to the point of this post, although I am sure CA can be a proper terror on her own, I wonder if some of what we are seeing is a result of CA playing the role of KC??

I don't think so. CA has been true to form pretty much all this time.

I think the problem is that CA and KC have been too much alike, all along.

 

[Brini]

Enjoyed your post immensely and agree with all of it, although as I think you said, this is not the source of the huge problem at the A's. OLG has the inside scoop on that, IMO. :blowkiss:

The family is headed by two personality disordered women.

Two cats in a bag.

 

[Brini]

Naw, they contributed to and were part of the research project.

In being serious now, this family will be used in the future as a teaching tool for upcoming legal and medical students.

Somehow I don't think this is exactly how the A clan wants to be remembered in history.

I dunno, honey. They aren't really that unusual.

You and I know (from experience) how common these families are. So does OLG.

 

[Brini]

It would be nice if they used the tapes of themselves as a learning tool, wouldn't it?! Ya know, to learn how to act right.

They'd either walk out, or they "wouldn't see it." I mean thay'd WATCH, but not SEE.

 

[Brini]

BBM - This is absolutely true, IMO. The more discovery/interviews that come out the more it appears that Casey has a serious personality disorder and never should have been given the responsibility of caring for Caylee. And to watch how her family interacts with her is a study unto itself. I've given up trying to figure out the logic of how Cindy, especially, thinks. Because there is no logic to it. Listen to her interviews with LE, the FBI, and her depositions with the SA. :banghead: Something that stood out to me above everything else (and that's saying something) is when the FBI agent asked Cindy if she had ever asked Casey why she told Amy that her parents were giving her the house, and she says "no". And the SA asked her, while discussing all of the people Dominic C was investigating, whether or not she had asked Dominic to check into Casey's work history and activities - and the answer was, drum roll please................... "no". :banghead: They are going to be studying this case and these people a hundred years from now.

No mystery, honey. CA ALSO has a serious personality disorder.

 

[Brini]

i have never thought they were in denial. It's more a case of total arrogance and disdain for anyone who challenges her on cindy's part- george was at first willing to discuss events fairly truthfully as they had happened, and he was in shock more than denial at the beginning, but cindy's attitude has always been "how dare anyone question me !- then that filtered down to george.
She who must be obeyed...

bingo!

 

[Brini]

Ok...jmo...but I'm not feeling a whole lot of love from the As...not for Casey anyway. Oh, I think they have their game face on...and they very well may love her, but I don't think they like her very much...and haven't for a long time. And, that's ok. Her behavior didn't elicit warm fuzzies. What's going on now as far as I'm concerned is scripted...to me it just doesn't seem genuine. Even the family's coded messages fall flat. These people right now are focused on themselves. Don't get me wrong, they'll do their "part" for Casey, but I really don't think it's out of love, guilt, or any other emotion. They're still too angry at her. They haven't been able to forgive her because they have "delayed" dealing with what she's done. Not denied it, just delayed it. Of course, these are only my opinions...and maybe I'm holding out hope that the As one day will hold their daughter accountable. But, right now I just wish they were more intent on finding justice for Caylee...the REAL victim in all of this.

Exactly! Now, it's about books, talk shows, cruises....