GUILTY AR - Beverly Carter, 49, Little Rock, 25 Sep 2014 - # 4

[KayKay.85]

I dont think its an accident she died of. I think its possible murder wasnt part of the plan but something went wrong so she had to be disposed of. I cant think of a logical motive unless ransom was the intention. But why didnt anyone ask for it?

He couldn't ask for ransom, if it was ransom, if she was already deceased?

 

[jstkiddn]

I dont think its an accident she died of. I think its possible murder wasnt part of the plan but something went wrong so she had to be disposed of. I cant think of a logical motive unless ransom was the intention. But why didnt anyone ask for it?

Maybe nobody had the chance to ask for ransom because she died so quickly? I still don't think that murder was the motive for the initial crime. I still think it was a ransom situation gone wrong.

Edit: or what jstanokiegal said.

 

[concernedmother]

Does anyone think there may be a 3rd person arrested?

 

[KayKay.85]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbas19EwDlc

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX8ch_ORgWO6wkc5AuLvSeg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4a1guwY9r4&index=5&list=UUir9_fOU2rOlzrtPy-Dej-w


His user name was: steveoh29 and steveoh31

He mentions that he went to Mexico for sometime and wasn't able to log back in to his steveoh29 account and had to create a new one steveoh31

Mod: If these links aren't allowed, please remove. Thanks.

Good catch on the steveoh31! I never noticed that.

Mexico??? Wonder what time frame that took place or IF he even went? His "Mexico" could've been time in prison. I don't believe much of what he said/says or posts.

He was in Dallas at bus station in one of these videos.

Some of these videos make me want to go thru the screen and slap him. No telling what he bought and sold on Ebay. The "how-to" theft videos plus his confession/boasting in interview of scamming people in malls? #idle.hands.are.the.devil's.workshop. If he so wanted to change his life as he proclaimed?? Quit playing video games, making how-to theft videos and GET A FREAKING JOB!!!!

 

[KayKay.85]

And...who wants a VERY crispy, not quite burned, macadamia nut cookie? Was on here ranting and just about burned my cookies I had baking. Lol

 

[jstkiddn]

Cookies are the best when they are *almost* burned, but not quite!

 

[baltolady]

And...who wants a VERY crispy, not quite burned, macadamia nut cookie? Was on here ranting and just about burned my cookies I had baking. Lol

Me, me, me!!! This is what I should be doing. :sweep: lol

 

[KayKay.85]

Can someone help me understand something?

I had many friends out searching for BC in the days following her kidnapping. If AL was a suspect and they were following him around town, why wouldn't they share that news with someone who was coordinating the search? BC's friends were so hopeful and sure that she was going to be found close to the house she was taken from. We won't know until more facts are released but it pains me to know that they were out there, day after day for hours on end and they weren't even remotely close to where she was.

Maybe because at the time he was just a suspect. LE still had no idea where BC was at that time. Had they spilled the beans to BC searchers or the media they had a chance of jeopardizing losing their only suspect? Did that help?

 

[nojusticenusa]

I am now able to dispel the gym rumors. I will not tell you my source of information but here is the truth about the gym from the most reliable source there could be on the subject:

!. BC granddaughter spent 2 months only at the gym. Nobody knew she was BC’s granddaughter as BC never spent any time at the gym (also the time frame given to me that BC's granddaughter was at the gym was BEFORE CL married AL).
2. BC’s granddaughter was not on the same team as CL’s daughter and they would not have been in the gym at the same time for any practice or at any competitions at the same time. Since BC’s granddaughter was on a ½ year competition team and CL’s daughter was on the ALL STAR competition team.
3. CL did not hang out or go to the gym and was never there. If she was at the gym it would have been 1 time.
4. CL attended only 1 competition and her daughter went to other competitions with other team members.
5. AL came to the gym one time to drop off CL’s daughter. He did not hang out at the gym.

All of this confirms to me that CL was honest with me about the gym.

Here is another incident that I would like to bring to everyone’s attention that I have checked out and verified from reliable sources connected to the incident:

I kept hearing a rumor that on Friday night (night after BC was taken) that there was an incident where a parent took children to TP (roll with toilet paper) CL’s house. The rumor was that CL and AL came out waving guns and threatening everyone looking like they were on drugs. It was also said that AL had got in his vehicle and chased the parent and children in his car and had a wreck in their neighborhood and that the parent that was taking the children to TP called the cops and made a report. I can now dispel this rumor as well.

Here is the truth of what happened: A parent did take children to TP CL’s house on Friday (night after BC was taken). AL and CL came out to stop the TP from happening. AL got mad and fussed at the parent. CL tried to calm him down saying it wasn’t a big deal. AL called the police and had the police come make them clean up the TP.

This is yet another bizarre twist. Why would anyone who had kidnapped someone and murdered them or was holding them call attention by calling the police????

Another thing that is of interest to me a possible reason for arrest is what CL told me about the phone.

She was mortified that the police had found the phone on top of underwear on her dresser out in plain sight and had taken her dirty underwear thinking it was possibly BC’s underwear.

The reason she was mortified was because those were her dirty underwear the police took. AL had a pit bull that liked to eat her underwear so she had the bad habit of placing her dirty underwear on top of the dresser out of reach. Apparently police took her dirty underwear the first time they were at the house and found the phone. If in fact the phone was laid on CL’s dirty underwear then her DNA could be all over that phone.

 

[SavvyRose]

I am trying to catch up on the posts, but wanted to say this was the theory I had heard too, minus CL going to the hospital. I thought it was said that the plant where the dump truck came from was very close, like in walking distance to the hospital. I just assumed he knew that and that was why he asked to be taken to that specific hospital, as was reported.

Just catching up and haven't read past this so forgive me if it's been addressed. The Alexander plant being walking distance from hospital would be a long walk. I'll look up distance when I can tonight and post but if you google I'm sure it will be easy. its baptist little rock and argon Alexander.
What I have since heard is that he was being tailed by LE and trying to shake them when he had the wreck. They did take the pic of him bloody. (Killing the rumor that I believe about it being a selfie taken with BCs phone that was loaded to her iCloud.) and that LE requested a slow escort to baptist while they tried to get a warrant.

Everything happened really fast after that accident .
I like to think Beverly, the strong , beautiful soul she was, is aiding in her justice from beyond.

 

[concernedmother]

I dont think they arrested her for DNA tho. Its logical her dna would be in vehicles and everywhere AL was.

 

[Shae1980]

I am now able to dispel the gym rumors. I will not tell you my source of information but here is the truth about the gym from the most reliable source there could be on the subject:

!. BC granddaughter spent 2 months only at the gym. Nobody knew she was BC’s granddaughter as BC never spent any time at the gym.
2. BC’s granddaughter was not on the same team as CL’s daughter and they would not have been in the gym at the same time for any practice or at any competitions at the same time. Since BC’s granddaughter was on a ½ year competition team and CL’s daughter was on the ALL STAR competition team.
3. CL did not hang out or go to the gym and was never there. If she was at the gym it would have been 1 time.
4. CL attended only 1 competition and her daughter went to other competitions with other team members.
5. AL came to the gym one time to drop off CL’s daughter. He did not hang out at the gym.


All of this confirms to me that CL was honest with me about the gym.

Here is another incident that I would like to bring to everyone’s attention that I have checked out and verified from reliable sources connected to the incident:

I kept hearing a rumor that on Friday night (night after BC was taken) that there was an incident where a parent took children to TP (roll with toilet paper) CL’s house. The rumor was that CL and AL came out waving guns and threatening everyone looking like they were on drugs. It was also said that AL had got in his vehicle and chased the parent and children in his car and had a wreck in their neighborhood and that the parent that was taking the children to TP called the cops and made a report. I can now dispel this rumor as well.

Here is the truth of what happened: A parent did take children to TP CL’s house on Friday (night after BC was taken). AL and CL came out to stop the TP from happening. AL got mad and fussed at the parent. CL tried to calm him down saying it wasn’t a big deal. AL called the police and had the police come make them clean up the TP.

This is another bizarre twist. Why would anyone who had kidnapped someone and murdered them or was holding them call attention by calling the police????

Another thing that is of interest to me a possible reason for arrest is what CL told me about the phone.

She was mortified that the police had found the phone on top of underwear on her dresser out in plain sight and had taken her dirty underwear thinking it was possibly BC’s underwear.

The reason she was mortified was because those were her dirty underwear the police took. AL had a pit bull that liked to eat her underwear so she had the bad habit of placing her dirty underwear on top of the dresser out of reach. Apparently police took her dirty underwear the first time they were at the house and found the phone. If in fact the phone was laid on CL’s dirty underwear then her DNA could be all over that phone.

When I have time I will comment...but the points about the gym are incorrect...

 

[SavvyRose]

I got off track but if he walked it would have taken hours I would think. I don't believe he walked but it wouldn't be impossible. I would think they were looking for him though.
And LE requested baptist not AL.

Is it possible CL would be bold enough to give him a ride knowing they are looking for him?

 

[nojusticenusa]

When I have time I will comment...but the points about the gym are incorrect...

I would sure like to hear what you have to say certainly since I got my information from the most reliable source there would be concerning the gym. I have no reason to believe anyone would lie when they have no reason.

 

[SavvyRose]

http://www.katv.com/story/27168627/...ing-charged-in-connection-with-realtors-death

husband was arrested. Investigators tell Channel 7 News that it was evidence collected - not anything Lewis said - that led them to arrest and charge Lowery.

When asked what kind of role authorities believe Lowery played in Carter's death, PCSO spokesman Lt. Carl Minden said the fact she was charged with the same capital murder and kidnapping chargers as her husband is evidence that authorities believe both parties to be equally involved.



So from this update Im thinking evidence lead them to CL and AFTER her arrest the home was turned into a crime scene. Thats why I think it could have been evidence from the vacant home that lead them to her. What could be in the vacant home besides fingerprints? If her fingerprints are in the vacant home she will not have a way to explain them away.

Snipped for space.
I noticed a key phrase here .. Arrest is a Result in the CONTINUING investigating of Beverly Carter.
This is not over. If there is someone else, they will get them.

 

[mpnola]

Nojustice, please dont take thought process as questioning "you". It is just what we do here! We see theories and poke holes or find evidence to back them up!

Here is my thing- if she was home on Friday night (the night of the toilet paper thing), that was after Beverly was missing. I would ceeeertainly notice a strange phone on top of my dirty underwear!!! Do you know if the toilet paper thing was from kids she was friends with and liked or kids who were doing it to be not so nice? I know it happens both ways.

And yes, I do think he would call the police even after he did something horribly wrong! In the Abigail Hernandez case, the guy did the exact thing. He called the police to come to his house and pick up his guns, with her likely in there (for 7 months!). They are arrogant. They think they are untouchable. Calling the police is often a way to get them close and still feel like you weren't caught.

On another note- I think the police should be contacting every person who commented on his stupid video! The amount of lying, thieving, worthlessness in this world is amazing!

 

[TTF14]

I would sure like to hear what you have to say certainly since I got my information from the most reliable source there would be concerning the gym. I have no reason to believe anyone would lie when they have no reason.

From reading this thread, I'm wondering if the discrepancy Shae is mentioning is about how much time was spent in the gym by any of the parties mentioned. Even the owner of the gym wouldn't be able to keep track of every single parent that came to the gym and how long they stayed and who they conversed with, unless every single surveillance video was gone through in order to figure that information out.

JMO, MOO

 

[SavvyRose]

I'm wondering how easy it would be to find out, unless there was an exam on that particular day. I attended college last year and attendance was rarely, if ever, taken. A lot of work is done online, and unless there is a controlled in class test or exam, it would be hard to know if a student was present.

Ualr Nursing program had required attendance when I attended. They did take role.

 

[nojusticenusa]

Nojustice, please dont take thought process as questioning "you". It is just what we do here! We see theories and poke holes or find evidence to back them up!

Here is my thing- if she was home on Friday night (the night of the toilet paper thing), that was after Beverly was missing. I would ceeeertainly notice a strange phone on top of my dirty underwear!!! Do you know if the toilet paper thing was from kids she was friends with and liked or kids who were doing it to be not so nice? I know it happens both ways.

And yes, I do think he would call the police even after he did something horribly wrong! In the Abigail Hernandez case, the guy did the exact thing. He called the police to come to his house and pick up his guns, with her likely in there (for 7 months!). They are arrogant. They think they are untouchable. Calling the police is often a way to get them close and still feel like you weren't caught.

On another note- I think the police should be contacting every person who commented on his stupid video! The amount of lying, thieving, worthlessness in this world is amazing!

I know CL was shocked that the phone was at her house. When it got there is a mystery. That same Fri night was when CL and AL got in another fight and she left for the weekend and did not return until Sun after police were already there.

I don't feel questioned. I want the truth too. I just know that what I was told about the gym from both my source and CL, I believe to be the truth. CL had also told me she did not spend time at gym. I have another friend who was friend that dropped CL's daughter at gym. That is from 3 sources. All stories match.

I have no use for AL and you will not see me arguing on his behalf here ever.

 

[jstkiddn]

Good catch on the steveoh31! I never noticed that.

Was it maybe steveoh32? You can hear him say it in a video he posted under the user name Arron Lewis. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3P6R8KILes He says he is steveoh29 but that was about three years ago, so now he's steveoh32. LOL at the Mexico story. I guarantee you he was in jail! Idiot also talks about how he can't show his face, but look at the avatar. It's a picture of himself. I don't think this boy was blessed with a lot in the way of brains. Just sayin'.

Either way, I cannot locate any videos for either steveoh31 or steveoh32. Has the account been removed? I've found two separate Arron Lewis accounts and the steveoh29 account, but no others. I know I saw a different motorcycle trick video and it's driving me crazy that I can't find it. It may have been removed.