alterholic
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Is there any possibility BC removed the lockbox prior to ALs arrival?
I think different areas have different ways of doing things. I have never gone and met a realtor anywhere before seeing them at the home I was looking at.I think that "referral" in this case just meant that someone else had bought a home from Beverly and was referred to her from that person. I don't necessarily believe that "referral" meant they were referred from another agent or realtor.
I have a feeling BC got a call from the couple on the 25th and set up the meeting without having met them first. There was information that they were coming in from out of town so that is probably why she was told that, so they wouldn't be pushed to come in a fill out any forms or what not before their meeting. Thoughts?
Thanx for the key info, Voice4theSilent. This day and age I cannot imagine anyone leaving their purse in a car unattended. So.....we are left with a few scenarios.
#1 Beverly was never inside the home she was showing. Taken as soon or very soon after she arrived. LE reported no sign of a struggle in the home. I am not sure about this since the home was vacant, not much to disturb or break if there was a struggle. If the lockbox and/or door lock was removed at this time (or just prior), AL had no worries since Beverly never made it to the front door.
#2 Beverly made it inside (under duress or not), something happened to her (restraint/taser/gunpoint/knife) and she was taken/carried outside to a vehicle.
#3 I had a number 3 and it has slipped straight out of my head. Must need sleep. LOL Oh, the vehicle not starting - dead battery, whatever. Why would Beverly leave her purse/keys in her car if she went willingly, presumably to get help. I can't go with this one. Beverly had her phone, unless there was no service in that area. Still the purse and keys were left in the car.
JMO MOO
Except if CL is the person that nojusticenusa has said, she wouldn't go along with this at the last minute as your scenario indicates. Especially if she was already planning on leaving AL.
ETA: I don't think this has anything to do with a robbery gone bad. There are too many holes in that theory. MOO
Thanx for the key info, Voice4theSilent. This day and age I cannot imagine anyone leaving their purse in a car unattended. So.....we are left with a few scenarios.
#1 Beverly was never inside the home she was showing. Taken as soon or very soon after she arrived. LE reported no sign of a struggle in the home. I am not sure about this since the home was vacant, not much to disturb or break if there was a struggle. If the lockbox and/or door lock was removed at this time (or just prior), AL had no worries since Beverly never made it to the front door.
#2 Beverly made it inside (under duress or not), something happened to her (restraint/taser/gunpoint/knife) and she was taken/carried outside to a vehicle.
#3 I had a number 3 and it has slipped straight out of my head. Must need sleep. LOL Oh, the vehicle not starting - dead battery, whatever. Why would Beverly leave her purse/keys in her car if she went willingly, presumably to get help. I can't go with this one. Beverly had her phone, unless there was no service in that area. Still the purse and keys were left in the car.
JMO MOO
As to this lockbox. Do we know for sure and for certain there was one to begin with? I have looked at many homes where there was no lockbox and the door was just left unlocked. So was there ever one to begin with? This home had been sitting vacant 4 years.
In the interview with Carl he said she never went to the second home. He also didn't mention her keys being in the car. Unless she had her car key and maybe other keys separate. I just know I never leave my car keys in the car. My doors lock automatically and then I would be locked out. My key, as with a lot these days folds into the alarm for my car. So she must have not been able to hit her alarm button either.
www.fox16.com/story/d/story/web-ext...-speaks-out-i-ju/17900/GBhlSM4T5kysUFFVqwvR_w
I'm not saying ALL of her alibis was covered or checked out for the entire weekend. I do know her Thur night checked out and that from sometime late Fri evening until Sun morning she was at the ex-boyfriend's house and that was verified. That still leaves Fri during day until that evening that I have only her word on her whereabouts. I have no reason to doubt her but no solid proof of this time frame. There is also Thur night after she arrived home until Fri morning that she says she was at her house. Again, no reason to doubt she was not there but no verified proof.
There is also the rumor I read here or on another site where someone claimed her phone was used to call and make the appointment. That would probably be enough to get her arrested.
He wouldnt be able to "grab" the lockbox without pre-planning to do it, moo
I have seen or read anything that said if the car was locked or not. Just a lot of stuff we are in the dark about.I may have missed it but was there any report on whether the car doors were locked or unlocked? Makes a big difference. I'll sometimes leave my purse in the car when I carry a big tote full of current files and ipad etc but of course concealed and locked. Some areas are safer and don't lock up in other parts of the country granted, but I would think if the car were found unlocked with the purse and keys in there... I might be ready to revise my theory about just-inside-the-house being the first point of abduction...
ITA You can't "grab" a lock box. They are permanently affixed to (usually) the door now and only the individual who placed it there and has the code can remove it. If he removed it (as MSM suggested) is could be done through the use of magnets or perhaps removing the doorknob or having the code to remove it. You can grab the key that is in the lock box if the person with the code opened it but not the entire lock box.
I think different areas have different ways of doing things. I have never gone and met a realtor anywhere before seeing them at the home I was looking at.
CL's drug test checked out. Negative hair follicle.
https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...resent2?DMS_ID=V7X5T5MULJGZYHG46WY6I7429BPAKH
It says on Oct 21 she tested negative. But that doesn't really tell us about Sept, does it?
ETA: Just to clarify, maybe it could. I don't know that much about drug testing.
CL's drug test checked out. Negative hair follicle.
https://contexte.aoc.arkansas.gov/i...resent2?DMS_ID=V7X5T5MULJGZYHG46WY6I7429BPAKH