AR AR - Cassie Compton, 15, Stuttgart, 14 Sept 2014 #4

[believe09]

She is part of the scenario regarding Cassie being noticed as missing on Sunday night, imo. I am starting to feel quite strongly that she wasnt actually noticed as missing by her mother until Monday morning. I am not sure how TS factors in to that scenario....I realize that she is pointing a finger at BR in her way, but I think that she might be trying to answer some unanswered questions regarding her son first and foremost.

 

[Steleheart]

I would like to tread lightly down a different path;

What evidence do we have that Cassie actually made it home?

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html

SNYDER: He (HS) left our house at 6:05, and he got back by 6:45. We live out of town, so it was a little bit of a -- by the time he got there and

dropped her off and got back home, and she did send him a text message, saying that she was going to go out and buy a pack of cigarettes. And that

is the last response he got from her.

http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter

SNYDER: Cassie`s mom boyfriend actually saw Cassie get out of his truck, walk up the driveway. She did not speak to the mom`s boyfriend at all when

she was walking up the driveway and she went into the house. So I brought that up to him and told him that he seen him get out of my son`s -- seen

Cassie get out of my son`s vehicle, so he knew she was no longer with him or with us.

As far as we know JC only thought she heard Cassie and called out to her. She did not actually see Cassie or hear her speak? As far as we know, HS said BR saw her but JC said neither she nor BR were in the room when Cassie came home?

Judy said last Sunday night, Cassie came home from the derby in Dewitt with her friend H. around 6:00 p.m. She was home for a short amount of time before she walked out the door while Judy and her fiancé Brandon Rhodes weren't in the room.

http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter

So far only TS has said that Cassie was dropped off and BR was on the porch but Cassie did not speak to him. TS has based her statements on what HS told her?

Why is he believable? How do we know that what HS told TS is actually the truth? How does TS know it is the truth? She has implicated BR as the last person to see Cassie but we only have her hearsay.

Has BR ever actually said he SAW Cassie?

If I have missed something important let me know, But it has stuck in my craw that the only eye witness of Cassie coming home is the person who drove her, but only his mother has relayed that story AFAIK.

ETA: I guess my question is why do we believe that HS actually dropped her off?


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[Caring4Many]

I would like to tread lightly down a different path;

What evidence do we have that Cassie actually made it home?

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html




http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter




As far as we know JC only thought she heard Cassie and called out to her. She did not actually see Cassie or hear her speak? As far as we know, HS said BR saw her but JC said neither she nor BR were in the room when Cassie came home?



http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter

So far only TS has said that Cassie was dropped off and BR was on the porch but Cassie did not speak to him. TS has based her statements on what HS told her?

Why is he believable? How do we know that what HS told TS is actually the truth? How does TS know it is the truth? She has implicated BR as the last person to see Cassie but we only have her hearsay.

Has BR ever actually said he SAW Cassie?

If I have missed something important let me know, But it has stuck in my craw that the only eye witness of Cassie coming home is the person who drove her, but only his mother has relayed that story AFAIK.

ETA: I guess my question is why do we believe that HS actually dropped her off?


:cow:

Yep that & her things being back at home. I believe that's what was hinted towards earlier up thread so I don't think you are at alone, Steleheart. What of this case is actually tangible???

 

[Steleheart]

Yep that & her things being back at home. I believe that's what was hinted towards earlier up thread so I don't think you are at alone, Steleheart. What of this case is actually tangible???

Yes, apparently anyone could have dropped her things off without being seen.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was gone like a whisper in the wind.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html

I see nothing where BR says he actually saw her, anyone could have dropped off her stuff.

HS seems very concerned that Cassie needed a 'safe haven';

SNYDER: Well, looking back right now, I think we were her safe haven. We were her place for her to stay and know that she was safe and taken care of.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, safe haven from what?
SNYDER: Just from things that she was having to deal with.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: What, in the home or outside the home?
SNYDER: We -- we believe that there was some issues in the home that she wasn`t happy with and that she just wanted to get out and just be a 15- year-old without having to deal with anything like that

I am not proposing the 'how' so much as the 'what'. What we know is that someone came in and was gone very quickly, who knows if it was actually Cassie? Apparently just one person but someone else is relaying 3rd party hearsay in that regard.

"Is TS credible" is a legitimate question. IMO

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[sreshowtime]

stele, you aren't soloing down that path...of other thoughts

 

[Caring4Many]

Yes, apparently anyone could have dropped her things off without being seen.



http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html

I see nothing where BR says he actually saw her, anyone could have dropped off her stuff.

HS seems very concerned that Cassie needed a 'safe haven';



I am not proposing the 'how' so much as the 'what'. What we know is that someone came in and was gone very quickly, who knows if it was actually Cassie? Apparently just one person but someone else is relaying 3rd party hearsay in that regard.

"Is TS credible" is a legitimate question. IMO

:cow:

Agree. Just for clarification-unidentified male above quoting "whisper in the wind" that was BR. Also we don't know so much that HS was concerned, that was expressed by TS honestly and she herself stated that they didn't know there were issues in the home until after Cassie disappeared. Makes you wonder-IF there were issues going on-WHO was she confiding in if not HS whose home she was staying overnight? Let's also keep in mind the post by her sister in law & brother (whomever actually posted we'll never know) about Cassie telling her a secret.

 

[Steleheart]

Excellent compilation of 'what we know'

https://findcassiecompton.wordpress.com/what-we-know/

•TS says she is the one who reported Cassie missing. [Article 15 http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/10/13/vanished-arkansas-teen-cassie-compton]
•JC says she is the one who reported Cassie missing.
•BR says he rode his bike to the police station Sunday night 9/14/14 to report Cassie missing,

We do know that JC filed the official report, have we seen TS' report?
We know that BR was just blowing smoke if he actually told TS that he was told 72 hours by the police, but maybe he was actually trying to get TS to tell him something? He didn't deny saying that but he never said it himself either. Again it is a 3rd party hearsay.


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[Steleheart]

Agree. Just for clarification-unidentified male above quoting "whisper in the wind" that was BR. Also we don't know so much that HS was concerned, that was expressed by TS honestly and she herself stated that they didn't know there were issues in the home until after Cassie disappeared. Makes you wonder-IF there were issues going on-WHO was she confiding in if not HS whose home she was staying overnight? Let's also keep in mind the post by her sister in law & brother (whomever actually posted we'll never know) about Cassie telling her a secret.

https://findcassiecompton.wordpress.com/what-we-know/

•10/17/14 Cassie’s brother and sister in law claim to know “her secret” https://findcassiecompton.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/notetocassie.png. Knows who ‘took her’.

I have no doubt that there were issues in the home around BR, but sometimes other adults feel obligated to help another child to find a ' safe haven' with the best intentions, but maybe not the best actions?

 

[Steleheart]

Unfortunately my quoted articles don't go forward with my quoted posts. It's that "Safe Haven" aspect that I am wrestling with;


<snip>
"SNYDER: Well, looking back right now, I think we were her safe haven. We were her place for her to stay and know that she was safe and taken care of.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, safe haven from what?
SNYDER: Just from things that she was having to deal with.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: What, in the home or outside the home?
SNYDER: We -- we believe that there was some issues in the home that she wasn`t happy with and that she just wanted to get out and just be a 15- year-old without having to deal with anything like that "

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html


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[True North]

Has Snyder said what time her son dropped Cassie off and does that time correlate to when JC called out to her daughter?

 

[believe09]

I dont think we have solid evidence that Cassie made it home that night. We have the police report filed by her mom on 9/15. Otherwise, we have a lot of hearsay that hasnt panned out as the truth as far as we can see or know for sure.

-JC reported her missing 9/15. That is a fact for sure.

Now, why would everyone fall in line with one another regarding Cassie returning home on 9/14 if she didnt? This is what I have been pondering. I would like to believe that JC wasnt awake and took someone else's word for it that Cassie had returned home. And that she is stuck in that mistruth now.

Or, she could be a part of it.

TS could be trying to make sure that she heads off any questions regarding her son given that he was possibly one of the last people to see Cassie. I am not sleuthing either-just commenting on possible interpretations of what she has said in the media.

 

[believe09]

Has Snyder said what time her son dropped Cassie off and does that time correlate to when JR called out to her daughter?

The short answer is yes and it appears to correlate.

 

[GigTu]

I would like to tread lightly down a different path;

What evidence do we have that Cassie actually made it home?

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html




http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter




As far as we know JC only thought she heard Cassie and called out to her. She did not actually see Cassie or hear her speak? As far as we know, HS said BR saw her but JC said neither she nor BR were in the room when Cassie came home?



http://www.katv.com/story/26582070/stuttgart-parents-seek-help-locating-missing-daughter

So far only TS has said that Cassie was dropped off and BR was on the porch but Cassie did not speak to him. TS has based her statements on what HS told her?

Why is he believable? How do we know that what HS told TS is actually the truth? How does TS know it is the truth? She has implicated BR as the last person to see Cassie but we only have her hearsay.

Has BR ever actually said he SAW Cassie?

If I have missed something important let me know, But it has stuck in my craw that the only eye witness of Cassie coming home is the person who drove her, but only his mother has relayed that story AFAIK.

ETA: I guess my question is why do we believe that HS actually dropped her off?


:cow:

Thank you. Finally someone else sees what I see.

Again though, BR did not disclaim TS/HS comments that BR saw her walk up the pathway.

The only proof that Cassie was home was Cassie's stuff being there. And BR and HS are friends. HS and DB are friends. There's a whole ugly road we could go down here.

 

[GigTu]

"Is TS credible" is a legitimate question. IMO

As should be true for any mom, her first responsibility is to protect her own son. I believe that is the case here. Doesn't mean they are lying, just means they have a lot to lose by stopping their own search for Cassie.

 

[believe09]

As should be true for any mom, her first responsibility is to protect her own son. I believe that is the case here. Doesn't mean they are lying, just means they have a lot to lose by stopping their own search for Cassie.

Is TS still searching for Cassie? Actually, who is still searching for Cassie out side of her mother and some peeps on message boards?

 

[GigTu]

TS ... <snip> ... stated that they didn't know there were issues in the home until after Cassie disappeared.

"SNYDER: Well, looking back right now, I think we were her safe haven. We were her place for her to stay and know that she was safe and taken care of.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, safe haven from what?
SNYDER: Just from things that she was having to deal with.
VELEZ-MITCHELL: What, in the home or outside the home?
SNYDER: We -- we believe that there was some issues in the home that she wasn`t happy with and that she just wanted to get out and just be a 15- year-old without having to deal with anything like that "

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1410/13/ijvm.01.html

I put these two together because this gave me an AHA moment. What caused her to think there were issues at home, if Cassie never said anything? TS either thought Cassie was having issues, or she didn't. TS would be smart to bring this case to the surface and fight for answers. JC would be as smart. They'd both be brilliant if they worked together.

Ah, a girl can dream, right?.... *sigh*

 

[GigTu]

Is TS still searching for Cassie? Actually, who is still searching for Cassie out side of her mother and some peeps on message boards?

As far as I can tell, only FCC Facebook and WS is searching. Posting to your personal FB account where you have an audience of exactly 5 is hardly making a search effort. That's more like a cover story buffer.

 

[Soulmagent]

Correct me ,if I am wrong please.

I thought there was something about Cassie phone showing it did ping at her house around the text message time. I remember reading it but do not remember if it was rumor or speculation. This would show if Cassie made it at or near her home at least if her phone did at the time.

 

[tlcya]

It is infuriating that so few seem to have been affected by this child's disappearance and fewer still appear to be doing one damn thing about it. I really do not even know what to say or contribute at this point. It all feels like pissing in the wind.

 

[Steleheart]

Correct me ,if I am wrong please.

I thought there was something about Cassie phone showing it did ping at her house around the text message time. I remember reading it but do not remember if it was rumor or speculation. This would show if Cassie made it at or near her home at least if her phone did at the time.

I haven't found a report of a ping at her home, but her belongings making it home and her phone making it home does not mean that Cassie made it home so the question I raise is how do we know that Cassie made it home other than a 3rd person hearsay?

Again I wanted to lightly explore this without making accusations, but what in this case is actual provable fact that Cassie was in her house that night?

When AH went missing from North Conway NH ( http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...th-Conway-9-October-2013-15-**ARREST**/page26) and it was not known that Nathaniel Kibby had kidnapped her, but a letter had shown up, Kieran Ramsey of the FBI, and Jane Young, Associate Atty. General, NH made it very clear that if someone thought they were "helping AH" by keeping her hidden, that they were not. So LE does, in fact, consider these possibilities.

Perhaps we should too.
In light of her sister's remarks noted up thread. Her sister knows her "secret" (insert best guess here) but did not know who has her (safe haven). If someone is hiding her because of the 'secret', they are not helping her IMO.


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