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Hints about the victims being blamed:
As we studied as a family, we found we could come up with our idea of what we thought modesty was, but we really wanted to see what the scriptures said about it. Our interpretation was that from the neck down to the knee should be covered. By keeping those private areas covered, there's not any "defrauding" going on. My kids are taught the definition of defrauding as stirring up desires that cannot be righteously fulfilled. We don't believe in defrauding others by the way we dress. And different people may be defrauded by different things. We can't control their thoughts, but we're responsible before God for our part. And so years ago, I just felt between me and my Lord that I really needed to dress modestly. http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/19-kids...g/michelle-duggar-why-she-chose-modest-dress/
Like Arkansas' very own morality police, they're also on the look out for ladies (perhaps words like "jezebel" and "harlot" were edited out in early drafts) who aren't subscribing to a similar dress code. Sure, they don't arrest people, but the family have a special code word for these provocative women, which is "Nike." Really, there's a code word: "That's a signal to the boys, and even to Dad, that they should nonchalantly drop their eyes and look down at their shoes as we walk past her... It's meant to help keep the guys' eyes from seeing things they shouldn't be seeing. By using the single-word signal, the warning can be given quietly and discreetly."
It's disconcertingly judgemental, and the narrative that men, even good Quiverfull men, are perennial victims of their crazed sex drives is far too common in contemporary religious-based lifestyle literature. (The Duggars mention it again when remembering Michelle's past as a cheerleader before finding God and Jim Bob: "She had no idea that dancing around in a short skirt in front of a bunch of boys was causing many of them to think sensual thoughts about her," the book reads.) http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a21626/duggar-girls-book-quotes/
And I got it:
This is what the Duggar's long time religious leader, Bil Gothard, head of ATI (also caught in a sex scandal involving young girls, BTW, along with the molester Doug Phillips of Vision Forum who was also a dear, close friend of the Duggars), says about counseling those who have been sexually abused:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/micah-j-murray/growing-up-in-bill-gothar_b_5228166.html
(More later).
As we studied as a family, we found we could come up with our idea of what we thought modesty was, but we really wanted to see what the scriptures said about it. Our interpretation was that from the neck down to the knee should be covered. By keeping those private areas covered, there's not any "defrauding" going on. My kids are taught the definition of defrauding as stirring up desires that cannot be righteously fulfilled. We don't believe in defrauding others by the way we dress. And different people may be defrauded by different things. We can't control their thoughts, but we're responsible before God for our part. And so years ago, I just felt between me and my Lord that I really needed to dress modestly. http://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/19-kids...g/michelle-duggar-why-she-chose-modest-dress/
Like Arkansas' very own morality police, they're also on the look out for ladies (perhaps words like "jezebel" and "harlot" were edited out in early drafts) who aren't subscribing to a similar dress code. Sure, they don't arrest people, but the family have a special code word for these provocative women, which is "Nike." Really, there's a code word: "That's a signal to the boys, and even to Dad, that they should nonchalantly drop their eyes and look down at their shoes as we walk past her... It's meant to help keep the guys' eyes from seeing things they shouldn't be seeing. By using the single-word signal, the warning can be given quietly and discreetly."
It's disconcertingly judgemental, and the narrative that men, even good Quiverfull men, are perennial victims of their crazed sex drives is far too common in contemporary religious-based lifestyle literature. (The Duggars mention it again when remembering Michelle's past as a cheerleader before finding God and Jim Bob: "She had no idea that dancing around in a short skirt in front of a bunch of boys was causing many of them to think sensual thoughts about her," the book reads.) http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/news/a21626/duggar-girls-book-quotes/
And I got it:
This is what the Duggar's long time religious leader, Bil Gothard, head of ATI (also caught in a sex scandal involving young girls, BTW, along with the molester Doug Phillips of Vision Forum who was also a dear, close friend of the Duggars), says about counseling those who have been sexually abused:
![Counseling_Sexual_Abuse-e1366186399324.jpeg](/forums/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.recoveringgrace.org%2Fmedia%2FCounseling_Sexual_Abuse-e1366186399324.jpeg&hash=76964d003f43a5b06781c3fbccf224e7)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/micah-j-murray/growing-up-in-bill-gothar_b_5228166.html
(More later).