Arizona girl, 2, left in car by father on 109-degree day and is found dead

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Yes. This was not a first-time forgotten child in the back seat.

This was a child deliberately left in the back seat as a routine and not the only child this routinely happened to.

I note that he has been released to the home on bail, with the stipulations he avoid firearms or alcohol.

If I were the wife, I might want to have another family member present in the home to make sure CS did not do something even more stupid.

Oh, and take away the Playstation.
She took a leave, so she is the "family member present." She seems co-dependent or something with him though. Very odd vibe to both in all this. My heart goes out to the older 2 girls. JMOO.
 
That doesn't look like a huge home that essentially has a separate living quarters he could use ( ie a mother-in-law place)

How is he going to avoid the other two children if he is still at home? Confine himself to an extra bedroom? Sit and watch TV all day and skulk about the kitchen at night? Does he get a car to drive? Can he go to stay with someone else?
He doesn't have to avoid them, he can't be alone with them as a caregiver. There were no prohibitions re: driving. I assume his SUV is currently impounded but mom has a Tesla and is on leave from work.
 
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She can't be covering for him, pretending it was just a freak accident or mistake

She is planning a funeral for her baby while trying to care for two other young children and guide them through this, so I really think there has been no time to process this yet, and she should be given complete compassion. I don't know how I would act if in her shoes.
 
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She is planning a funeral for her baby while trying to care for two other young children and guide them through this, so I really think there has been no time to process this yet, and she should be given complete compassion. I don't know how I would act if in her shoes.
Going by the wording of her pleading in court, imo supporting him as though he's one of her children. (Imo) So, i think it's fair to critique that aspect, while retaining sympathy for losing her baby.
 
The emergency call has weighed heavily on every officer and paramedic who responded to the home in Marana, said Capt. Tim Brunenkant, who has been with the department for 29 years. He said the call is the first such incident to occur in the town during his tenure.

2024 Hot Car Deaths​

#​

Date​

City​

State​

Child Sex​

Child Age​

Circumstances​

Link​

117/15/24LakewoodNJUNK2 mosLeftMore info
107/10/24OmahaNEM5 yrsUNKMore info
97/9/24MaranaAZF2 yrsKnowingly LeftMore info
87/7/24Little RockARM2 yrsKnowingly LeftMore info
77/3/24HoustonTXUNK4 yrsUnknowingly leftMore info
67/2/24MarriettaGAM2 yrsUNKMore info
56/26/24CharlotteNCF8 yrsKnowingly LeftMore info
46/13/24SanteeCAUNK2 mosUnknowingly LeftMore info
35/22/24MorgantownWVFUNKUnknowingly leftMore info
25/20/24BradentonFLF6 yrsKnowingly LeftMore info
15/3/24Richland CountySCF3 yrsGained accessMore info
Pending Cause of Death6/25/24Perry CountyMSM3 yrsUNKMore info
Pending Cause of Death6/14/24WashingtonDCM4 yrsUNKMore info
Pending Cause of Death6/7/24IndialanticFLUNK3 yrsUNKMore info
 
Mother's & Father's Texts. When? Where?
The texts were exchanged on the way to the hospital, while the baby's body was also enroute....
sbm @NuttMegg Thx for your post. :)

1.
If MSM quote of LE's complaint's quote of text* is accurate, is a bit unusual that TEXT has full sentences, std. grammar, NO abbreviations? Maybe w med training & experience, she maintains calm demeanor regardless of circumstances?
And HIS responding texts, w no abbrev's, etc?

2.
HOW did they go to hosp? Why text in transit?
A. Did both Mo. & Fa. ride in AMBU. TOGETHER?
If so, is it likely she since that text* in ambu, w him right there? Unless one parent was in ambu med bay & other in front cab, they could talk or whisper to ea other, so why text?

B. SEPARATELY, w Mo. in ambu & Fa. driving car?
Or would she have been focussing only on dau, perhaps offering guidance, wanted or unwanted, to EMTs?

C. If they went to hosp together in ONE CAR then why TEXT instead of talk? Unless they had dau(s) w them?

D. Other way to hosp, e.g., Uber, neighbor, relative? Together or separately?

Both ^ points puzzle me.

Maybe or likely because I'm the only person left in the US who doesn't text. ;)

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* "The interim complaint also shows Scholtes received text messages from his wife while their daughter was being taken to the hospital stating: “I told you to stop leaving them in the car, How many times have I told you?” "
"He responded, “Babe, I’m sorry!” She then said “We’ve lost her, she was perfect,” and he responded by texting “Babe our family. How could I do this? I killed our baby, this can’t be real.” "
From Father may have been distracted by PlayStation when toddler died in hot car
 
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RSBM

She is planning a funeral for her baby while trying to care for two other young children and guide them through this, so I really think there has been no time to process this yet, and she should be given complete compassion. I don't know how I would act if in her shoes.

It reminds me of Elizabeth Smart's mother, who said that she, "Just had to keep going". That makes sense to me. Sometimes, you don't really know what else to do, but what needs to be done, it is a coping skill for some people. I have no doubt that she is craving to go back to work, and push all of this out of her head.
 
Mother's & Father's Texts. When? Where?

sbm @NuttMegg Thx for your post. :)

1.
If MSM quote of LE's complaint's quote of text* is accurate, is a bit unusual that TEXT has full sentences, std. grammar, NO abbreviations? Maybe w med training & experience, she maintains calm demeanor regardless of circumstances?
And HIS responding texts, w no abbrev's, etc?

2.
HOW did they go to hosp? Why text in transit?
A. Did both Mo. & Fa. ride in AMBU. TOGETHER?
If so, is it likely she since that text* in ambu, w him right there? Unless one parent was in ambu med bay & other in front cab, they could talk or whisper to ea other, so why text?

B. SEPARATELY, w Mo. in ambu & Fa. driving car?
Or would she have been focussing only on dau, perhaps offering guidance, wanted or unwanted, to EMTs?

C. If they went to hosp together in ONE CAR then why TEXT instead of talk? Unless they had dau(s) w them?

D. Other way to hosp, e.g., Uber, neighbor, relative? Together or separately?

Both ^ points puzzle me.

Maybe or likely because I'm the only person left in the US who doesn't text. ;)

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* "The interim complaint also shows Scholtes received text messages from his wife while their daughter was being taken to the hospital stating: “I told you to stop leaving them in the car, How many times have I told you?” "
"He responded, “Babe, I’m sorry!” She then said “We’ve lost her, she was perfect,” and he responded by texting “Babe our family. How could I do this? I killed our baby, this can’t be real.” "
From Father may have been distracted by PlayStation when toddler died in hot car

One idea about A is that both phones used speech-to-text.
 
I suspect mom went with Parker in ambulance or following the ambulance in whatever vehicle she arrived home in and dad stayed home to deal with LE and the two oldest daughters. I also suspect they may have been using a talk to text feature on their phones.
 
Texts btwn Mother & Father?
One idea about A is that both phones used speech-to-text.
@Judy Sleuth Thx for response. :)

Ah, speech-to-text, a possibility I overlooked. That could explain texts w full sentences, no abbrev, etc.

@tlcya Thx for your post on this too.
 
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Mother's & Father's Texts. When? Where?

sbm @NuttMegg Thx for your post. :)

1.
If MSM quote of LE's complaint's quote of text* is accurate, is a bit unusual that TEXT has full sentences, std. grammar, NO abbreviations? Maybe w med training & experience, she maintains calm demeanor regardless of circumstances?
And HIS responding texts, w no abbrev's, etc?

2.
HOW did they go to hosp? Why text in transit?
A. Did both Mo. & Fa. ride in AMBU. TOGETHER?
If so, is it likely she since that text* in ambu, w him right there? Unless one parent was in ambu med bay & other in front cab, they could talk or whisper to ea other, so why text?

B. SEPARATELY, w Mo. in ambu & Fa. driving car?
Or would she have been focussing only on dau, perhaps offering guidance, wanted or unwanted, to EMTs?

C. If they went to hosp together in ONE CAR then why TEXT instead of talk? Unless they had dau(s) w them?

D. Other way to hosp, e.g., Uber, neighbor, relative? Together or separately?

Both ^ points puzzle me.

Maybe or likely because I'm the only person left in the US who doesn't text. ;)

______________________________
* "The interim complaint also shows Scholtes received text messages from his wife while their daughter was being taken to the hospital stating: “I told you to stop leaving them in the car, How many times have I told you?” "
"He responded, “Babe, I’m sorry!” She then said “We’ve lost her, she was perfect,” and he responded by texting “Babe our family. How could I do this? I killed our baby, this can’t be real.” "
From Father may have been distracted by PlayStation when toddler died in hot car
The mother went in the ambulance with the child. The father was with LE at the home.
 
Going by the wording of her pleading in court, imo supporting him as though he's one of her children. (Imo) So, i think it's fair to critique that aspect, while retaining sympathy for losing her baby.
Yet trying to make it that she is doing what is best for her surviving kids, when I may disagree that it is. JMOO. She seems like an enabler. No reason at all she could not have hired childcare at least PT. The dynamic between the parents seems unhealthy and he seemed to be "showing her" he'd do as he pleased or using care practices to upset her. Indifferent to the impact on kids. Again, JMOO.
 
Things may change as more information comes out but currently it sounds like the dad isn’t denying he left his daughter in the car on purpose but at the same time is claiming some sort of memory lapse about leaving her for an extended period.

He told police he arrived home about 2:45, which isn’t true. He told police he checked on the girl, which isn’t true. When his wife arrived home it took a few minutes for him to “remember” the girl was still in the car.

IOW will he claim he became distracted by putting the food away and attending to the other kids? Will he claim to have had a clear (false) memory of bringing his daughter inside after 30 minutes?

Will his attorney seek a plea deal with lowered charges, claiming this “pillar of the community” had a memory lapse that day?

I guess it won’t matter as long as he pays with jail time and doesn’t skate with probation.
All MOO
I am curious if he has ADHD… the hyperfocus on the videogame and time blindness are typical for someone with ADHD. Not an excuse of course, just curious.
 
  • The WAZE traffic app has a setting that reminds a driver to check the back seat once they have reached a destination that was entered into the app.
  • A battery-operated sensor system that works with a child safety seat and is synchronized to an app can send a notification to the driver’s phone to check the vehicle once it has stopped.
  • Some car seat manufacturers offer sensor technology using a smart chest clip that syncs with the vehicle computer and lets the driver know if the chest clip on the car seat is not unlocked within a short time after the ignition is stopped.
  • A built-in back seat reminder sensor system is available in some vehicles. The system activates when the rear door is either opened or closed within 10 minutes before the vehicle is started or while it is still running.
“It’s important to have different levels of safety and redundancy in keeping children safe from being left unattended in a hot car,” Kovar said. “You can’t ever be too careful or too vigilant when it comes to child passenger safety, especially when the consequences are too horrible to consider.”
 

I am trying to catch up with all the posts since I left earlier, but in terms of the below, is the consensus that he forgot she was out there?

Father knew A/C in car would shut off in half hour​

 

I am trying to catch up with all the posts since I left earlier, but in terms of the below, is the consensus that he forgot she was out there?

Father knew A/C in car would shut off in half hour​

No, imo. He frequently left the kids in the car as kind of a containment device while he gamed per the older kids. Per your link he knew she was there and that AC would shut off. Was not a mistake about either of those facts. I think he got caught up in gaming and whatever was in the glass and chose to ignore those responsibilities.
 

I am trying to catch up with all the posts since I left earlier, but in terms of the below, is the consensus that he forgot she was out there?

Father knew A/C in car would shut off in half hour​

I think he’s claiming he forgot she was in the car for three hours. I’m not sure exactly how he explained it but it seems like he’s saying he planned to get the girl from the car when the app alerted that the car engine turned off.

Except he said he didn’t receive the notice. All I’ve been able to find is this:

Scholtes left the car running with air conditioning and "wanted her to remain in the vehicle while she slept," he told police, according to the documents.

The A/C automatically shuts off after 30 minutes, something Scholtes knew, the documents say.

Scholtes didn't realize he had forgotten about leaving his daughter in the hot car until after his wife Erika returned home from work a couple hours later, asking where the toddler was. The couple found the 2-year-old unresponsive and "still strapped in her child restraint system."


So IOW some variation of Forgotten Baby Syndrome. Something like he planned to bring her in within a half hour but became distracted. I don’t know if that would fly but given the right expert who knows how a jury would react? He appears to be a loving, family oriented father, at least on social media, which might cause a hurdle for the prosecution.

That’s why I wonder if he’ll be offered a plea deal.
MOO
 

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