ARRESTED- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder charge;INTERPOL alert #6

[musician]

My thoughts exactly dan.

Generally I think LE will have their internet forensics dept who will scour the net and get everything, but I wonder... I think these posts are pretty significant. It reinforces the idea of premeditation.

Indeed it does suggest premeditation. The flipside is that it could also be used as part of his defence - ie that he should be found "not guilty by reason of mental impairment" at the time - and that these posts showed he himself thought he was mentally ill.

As to whether such electronic material can be used in evidence, that will depend on 1) whether it is relevant to a fact in dispute; and 2) whether it is admissible. I would say that the large portion of this case will be proven by adducing electronic evidence.

 

[DD_bwest]

pure conjecture here.. but someone posted this earlier

http://estrip.org/author/list_articles/lukamagnotta

the last post referring to scientology, while its not confirmed but something about it did cross my mind..

unless im mistaken, im pretty sure scientology doesnt believe in medication for psychiatric conditions etc.. The post was made july, 2009..

 

[FrayedKnot]

On the estrip.org site...
while a plagiarized post was found....i wouldnt completely dismiss everything written as false...i think in many of his ramblings, there is a bit of truth mixed in with fantasy...
obviously, the dude has issues and many of the posts reveal issues or reveal things that could cause issues....

im sure he is a criminologists dream come true.....

Another good point!

Just because he plagiarized posts, does NOT mean they weren't subjects pertaining to him or his current interests/concerns.

Still worth looking at those posts and the subject matter as pertains to LM.

 

[~n/t~]

IDK about Newman being a Jewish name. There is a Cardinal Newman (Catholic) HS in FL. I have several friends who went there.

But Paul Newman was half Jewish, so maybe it's like Miller, Green, Stone etc.

Interesting point though, given the role religion sometimes plays in the lives of the creepier killers. Wonder what we could find out about that?

Yes, I think you are correct. It was my opinion only that it was a Jewish name. All the Newmans I know are Jewish but there may be other religions using the name as you pointed out.

I don't know if it's even relevant at this point.

 

[Jezbel]

Like Leiby Kletzky's mum, I hope Jun's mother doesn't learn the full extent of her son's death. I don't know you would function knowing that that child you carried and raised was treated in such a horrendous manner and millions of people across the world watched it.

R.I.P

 

[Sealuzna]

I think "fact" is a little bit better with the pre-murder stuff (up to May 24). Who else would be uploading Luka Magnotta videos except him? After the murder video became public, stuff just flies off the rails with tons of trolls trying to emulate him.

I've got a very weird feeling about all this. We know that animal rights groups have been hounding him for years, and well before July 2011 when, on the one true website we know he created, he writes extensively about people pretending to be him on the internet and cyber-stalking. We already know animal rights groups have freely admitted to using the internet to pose as him.

I think there's a WHOLE lot more going on behind the scenes, and has been since he was accused of being responsible for the kitten incident.

 

[musician]

I've been thinking about that too alot. IMO this is his grand finale BUT we havent seen all of his "work" yet. To get the worlds attention, and not just be one of all serial killers (I know he's just a suspect of ONE murder so far). So I'm scared we only seen a little so far... and little by little we're going to be able to see the whole picture of this sick sick mind.

I have been similarly curious as to why, if this is not his first murder, why he didn't refer to his previous crimes online in his gazillion web posts about himself. But I have a very strong inkling that he did in fact commit similar crimes before and was disappointed about the lack of media interest in them/lack of links to him, so he made sure to make Jun Lin's horrific murder very much publicized. And this would also fit with why he started linking himself to Karla Homolka; because he wanted to be known as infamous and he wanted people/LE to start linking him with serial killer crimes. Just a theory.

 

[SurfieTX]

When was the review posted about him seeming like a 'wet fish' in regard to his escorting/prostitution?

 

[FrayedKnot]

I had a thought yesterday regarding Justin's head still being missing.

Might he have sent it airpost to Queen Elizabeth? I know it sounds cray cray, but perhaps he had hoped it would arrive during the Jubilee? Talk about "Look at Me".

Has he ever posted anything about the Queen or Royals?

Sorry if this is too far off from what everyone else is speculating.

 

[SurfieTX]

I have been similarly curious as to why, if this is not his first murder, why he didn't refer to his previous crimes online in his gazillion web posts about himself. But I have a very strong inkling that he did in fact commit similar crimes before and was disappointed about the lack of media interest in them/lack of links to him, so he made sure to make Jun Lin's horrific murder very much publicized. And this would also fit with why he started linking himself to Karla Homolka; because he wanted to be known as infamous and he wanted people/LE to start linking him with serial killer crimes. Just a theory.

I was just thinking that - If he is responsible for the Hollywood murder, I suspect he thought that would make him front page news, but alas, it really didn't, so he had to up the ante.

 

[thedissent]

I've got a very weird feeling about all this. We know that animal rights groups have been hounding him for years, and well before July 2011 when, on the one true website we know he created, he writes extensively about people pretending to be him on the internet and cyber-stalking. We already know animal rights groups have freely admitted to using the internet to pose as him.

I think there's a WHOLE lot more going on behind the scenes, and has been since he was accused of being responsible for the kitten incident.

What do mean?

Who would have prior knowledge of the murder pre-May 15, before the murder took place, other than the murderer (ie LRM) and any accomplice?

As badly as Animal Rights activists wanted this guy, I can't see them creating YouTube accounts to accuse him of being a "cannibal serial killer".

Plus, there is plenty of evidence independent of the Internet that LRM did this crime-- the evidence found in the apartment, video surveillance from his apartment / Canada Post. There will be more evidence that we don't even know about yet.

 

[AudreyRose]

That "Beavis Butthead" character is claiming that he thinks LM's "statement" will be in about 24 hours on Friday. This person keeps making me raise an eyebrow with the info he posts. I'm sure he's just making stuff up, but still...it's strange.

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=watch

 

[udar55]

I had a thought yesterday regarding Justin's head still being missing.

Might he have sent it airpost to Queen Elizabeth? I know it sounds cray cray, but perhaps he had hoped it would arrive during the Jubilee? Talk about "Look at Me".

Has he ever posted anything about the Queen or Royals?

Sorry if this is too far off from what everyone else is speculating.

Someone earlier in this thread theorized it may be on its way to The Sun paper in the UK. They did lots of coverage of him regaring the kitten videos. And he sent the journalist a threatening email (that referenced killing humans next) after their face-to-face interview in December 2011. I think that might be a safe bet on its destination.

 

[GroovyHermit]

the fingernail post looks like a plagarism http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt90930.html

Quite possible that all 44 posts on that estrip blog are " copy-paste "

But still it's offering us a view into his mind...

 

[Mwitah]

Great find. There was a homicide in Tucson, Az that I have been trying to find out some more information about - January 6th/12. Here is a MSM link:
http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri...cle_6a657250-3898-11e1-91b4-001871e3ce6c.html

Here are some other places I found discussing the Tucson decapitation. Apparently the hands and feet were cut off as well. The feet were buried nearby?

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2012/01/06/20120106tucson-decapitated-body-along-road.html

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/...dents-concerned-frightened-about-decapitation

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/136822898.html

http://www.southwestbordersheriffs.com/2012/01/decapitated-body-discovered-west-of.html

http://www.kvoa.com/videos/body-found-near-marana-was-decapitated-sheriffs-say/

Investigators say the severed head, hands and feet found in a Hollywood Hills neighborhood this week likely do not belong to a body found in Pima County that was missing those body parts, although they aren't positive.

On Friday, January 6, Pima County Sheriff's Department deputies discovered a body in Western Pima County that was missing its head, hands and feet.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/artic...ound-arizona-not-related-california-case.html

This last article says DNA was compared between the CA & AZ case and they werent' related. I hate to think of how many cases there are out there of people cutting off heads, hands and feet.

 

[musician]

I was just thinking that - If he is responsible for the Hollywood murder, I suspect he thought that would make him front page news, but alas, it really didn't, so he had to up the ante.

Upping the ante indeed. Precisely - you said it much more succinctly than I did! Thanks!

 

[AudreyRose]

That "Beavis Butthead" character is claiming that he thinks LM's "statement" will be in about 24 hours on Friday. This person keeps making me raise an eyebrow with the info he posts. I'm sure he's just making stuff up, but still...it's strange.

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=watch

That comment was there....I posted the link....now it's gone. How curious.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Yes, I think you are correct. It was my opinion only that it was a Jewish name. All the Newmans I know are Jewish but there may be other religions using the name as you pointed out.

I don't know if it's even relevant at this point.

Well, I think it might be. You know, if he was raised in a strict, fundamentalist home of whatever religion, he may have experienced guilt or shame for his sexuality. He may have even been physically abused (spare the rod....).

Please, nobody misunderstand my reasoning here. I think that religion and faith are wonderful things and I have seen the positive effects they have had in people's lives.

But I also know that religious extremism in any form can be dangerous and arguable responsible for creating some pretty notorious socio/psychopaths.

It's a valid thing to look into as far as sleuthing LM. What values was he raised with? How did they shape his emotional growth? Does he leave clues referencing religion that may point to other crimes?

 

[musician]

That "Beavis Butthead" character is claiming that he thinks LM's "statement" will be in about 24 hours on Friday. This person keeps making me raise an eyebrow with the info he posts. I'm sure he's just making stuff up, but still...it's strange.

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc37CtjNQHaX1o10AJ0Uoiw?feature=watch

It is and BB is very concerning. Notice BB's profile pic now bears devil horns - referred to by Magnotta in his audition for cosmetic surgery.

 

[jaycee]

Someone earlier in this thread theorized it may be on its way to The Sun paper in the UK. They did lots of coverage of him regaring the kitten videos. And he sent the journalist a threatening email (that referenced killing humans next) after their face-to-face interview in December 2011. I think that might be a safe bet on its destination.

That would be a good bet. I too have been thinking overseas but if I had a head to send and I wanted attention, I'd send it to Queen Elizabeth.