Aruba - Natalee Holloway, 18, Oranjestad, 30 May 2005 #1

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Im wondering what hidden agenda Joran had for doing this interview.. it was obvious to me from the get go that he was lying about it all.. not remembering name of guy who supposedly gave him $10K.. incriminating his dad, K2, police.. etc.., it was ALL just a huge blatant lie.
 
I think she could be alive! It is a real possibilty! Those slave traders don't pay for dead bodies! And....Joran has continued in the business as we have seen on resent tapes!
It makes me think...she is alive! Damn
I doubt she is alive even if he is telling the truth. Sadly, I think the person who bought her would have killer her because of all of the attention the case received. :(
I have no reason to believe Joran suddenly decided to tell the truth. He is a self-serving sociopath and has nothing to gain to come forward with the truth. He says that he wants to put it behind him, but he knows he will never be arrested unless he decides to open his mouth. If he really wanted to put this behind him, he would see this out to the end instead of telling Greta he lied and go back to living his life of a sociopath. IMO he definitely lied but there might be grains of truth in there. I could totally buy the story about his father paying off the police, but something tells me they won't be able to corroborate it.

The fact that Greta had to "license" the chip bothers me. It sounds like he made up this story for some cash.
 
Im wondering what hidden agenda Joran had for doing this interview.. it was obvious to me from the get go that he was lying about it all.. not remembering name of guy who supposedly gave him $10K.. incriminating his dad, K2, police.. etc.., it was ALL just a huge blatant lie.
I imagine the hidden agenda was for the money he received from Greta for licensing the chip.
 
I imagine the hidden agenda was for the money he received from Greta for licensing the chip.

I would be interested in hearing what's on the chip, maybe Greta will play it tomorrow, Part Two of the story.
 
its really sad that this kid is screwing around like this and the holloway's have to suffer through it.

"i dont know what happened to your daughter, no wait she died and i dumped her sea, oops actually i sold her to some guy"

i hope that punk gets what is coming to him, and maybe the holloway's can sue his idiot father for all he's got somehow.

:(
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457144,00.html

Joran van der Sloot Goes 'On the Record' with New Natalee Holloway Story

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record ," November 24, 2008. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Tonight: Joran van der Sloot goes "On the Record," and he has a horrifying, shocking new story about what happened to Natalee Holloway the night she disappeared. Eighteen-year-old Natalee Holloway vanished on the island of Aruba on May 30, 2005. Now, since Natalee's disappearance, Van der Sloot has been arrested twice in connection to her disappearance but never charged with a crime.

Van der Sloot went "On the Record" with us in 2006, claiming he had left Natalee alone on a beach. Then in February of '08, Van der Sloot was shown on hidden tape saying that Natalee had collapsed on the beach and that he had disposed of her body.

Well, now his story changes again. Joran contacted us, claiming he wanted to tell us the truth about what happened that night. He produced as evidence three telephone conversations saved on a digital chip. Joran claims the recordings are conversations between his father and him. If authentic, the recording suggest that Joran told his father what happened to Natalee. On a weekend, we slipped away and we went halfway across the world to interview Joran van der Sloot.

<<<<<<<<<full interview at link>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Joran van der Sloot … You Be the Judge

by Greta Van Susteren

In case you missed our special ON THE RECORD interview with Joran van der Sloot about Natalee Holloway’s disappearance, here’s your chance to see it again. What do you think of his claims and especially the twist at the end? Be sure to tune in to tonight’s ON THE RECORD at 10 pm ET to watch our follow-up interviews and investigation on human trafficking:

By the way …we have more on this tonight…including a discussion about Joran giving us a tape of 3 conversations with his Father…and a dead end we pursued.
 
91% of the people who voted on Greta's poll think Joran called back to say he was lying because he regretted implicating his father and himself.

IMHO, I don't think it ALL was a lie. I do believe Joran AND his dad and K2 were involved. I DO BELIEVE there's a massive cover-up! Just what happened, I'm not sure, but I DO BELIEVE, unfortunately, Natalee is deceased.

JMHO
fran


http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

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Wonder if Hans Mos will be in touch with Greta?

My bet is, he'll ignore her, or issue a rebuttal, and hope it all goes away!:chicken:

JMHO
fran

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

What should Hans Moss, the Aruban Prosecutor do?

What should Hans Moss, the Aruban Prosecutor do now…nothing? or issue some arrest warrants? or issue a subpoena or two or three?
 
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/

Now the name of the game — corroborate or disprove!

by Greta Van Susteren

If I were the prosecutor in Aruba (who incidentally HATES me), I would begin the work of proving or disproving what Joran told us. I would issue a subpoena for the bank records of Paulus van der Sloot, I would ask us for the bank number of the wire transfer that Joran gave us, I would pull in for questioning the Kalpoe brother and Paulus van der Sloot, I would ask us for the name of the police we beeped out who Joran says got paid off, I would check the bank records of the police we beeped out (although if this happened, I suspect it was cash), I would go back through all the investigative files and check on radar etc for boats the night Natalee disappeared, I would re listen to the interview on June 29 when Joran and the Kalpoes were taped secretly and talked about Natalee being alive, I would ask for the chip we have in which Joran says it is his father talking about the trafficking and subject to further analysis to make sure it is indeed his father, I would find the headmaster who Joran and his father spoke to that first week and re question him, I would look for the person who Joran says was present when he paid off the Kalpoes, I would re watch all the surveillance tape from the casinos (including the Radisson), etc…the foregoing is just a start..there is so much more the Prosecutor could do to prove or disprove…but he should do it….
 
I would be interested in hearing what's on the chip, maybe Greta will play it tomorrow, Part Two of the story.

Seeing as how Greta paid to 'license' the chip, I would HOPE she plans on playing it on the air, eventually.

Imagine that, Joran, whether he was lying or not, threw his dad, a couple of policemen, a teacher, and K2, ALL under the bus!:eek:

IMHO, IF they all want to get out from under those wheels, they better start talking!:behindbar

JMHO
fran

PS.....LOL, bet Deepak is really po'd that his Dr. Phil lawsuit is now in jeoprady! Course, I KNOW he didn't stand a chance in the first place, ;)...but that's just me! fran
 
. . .and check his phone records for the night in question. First he said he did not have a phone number for this guy, then he said he called him that night. Personally I think he made this entire story up, he has had plenty of time to do that and his "new" lifestyle sure has given him more things to think about....he does need to be locked away for good! jmo
 
Joran will go down as one of the world's most prolific liars. His stories keep coming and people line up to make money for him. As long as he can spin a tale that people will listen to and pay for...he will continue on. It doesn't make it true.

I don't believe him. Right now, he feels like a fool for getting caught up again in yet another "sting" operation by the same reporter. He is lashing out to cause trouble for others in an effort to draw the attention off himself, imo. This story sounds plausible because of the "sting" he was caught in and is using that to his advantage here for paybacks. I think his father finally said "enough is enough" and kicked him to the curb cutting off his funds. I also think the Kalpoe bros must have in some way done the same. His game right now is payback to those he feels slighted by including Greta.
 
imo everthing he said was a lie, he got some money and attention and was able to stick the knife in different peoples heart with the story he made up.

If some man wanted to buy a young blond, imo he would not be placing his order with a kid!

I'd hate to be holding the karma J. has on him. and one day it will all turn around to bite him.

VB
 
I just heard about this today. This morning it was all over the news. I don't think he is telling the truth. Honestly, I think he knows he will get into less trouble if he says he sold her, rather than he covered up a death or murdered her. I listened to him talking with a journalist, and there were lots of holes in his story that he keeps trying to cover up. At one point he says, "We drove in the car and got out onto the beach." And she says how did the man know to meet you there?" "Oh I called him while we were in the car." She says "She didn't struggle when she was being forced on the boat?" And he retorts "No cause I told her we were getting on a boat." That's explaining it after the fact of realizing there is a hole in his story. And there were a lot of holes. So...
 
Honestly, I heard he told a friend of his that he dumped Natalie's body in the ocean. He said he put her body on a boat, drove her to the middle of the ocean and dumped it. If he did that, the odds of her body washing up are slim to none. Sharks, fish, etc. Maybe someday we'll find some bones, but other than that, and even that isn't definite. So there you go.
 
This kid is unbelievable. He is a complete sociopath. I can't imagine how this makes Natalee's mother feel to hear him spout out these stories especially knowing that Joran holds the key.
Surely the prosecutor will investigate some of his claims.....right? His story can be verified to some degree through bank transactions and cell phone records.
 
This kid is unbelievable. He is a complete sociopath. I can't imagine how this makes Natalee's mother feel to hear him spout out these stories especially knowing that Joran holds the key.
Surely the prosecutor will investigate some of his claims.....right? His story can be verified to some degree through bank transactions and cell phone records.

I believe PARTS of Joran's stories, just like I believe PARTS of his previous stories. Which parts to piece together is the question.

There are certain aspects of this case that keep regurgetating and appear in some form or other in yet ANOTHER story.

IMHO, the way it went down was Joran got K2 to take him to C&C to meet up with the MB kids. When the girl Joran had his eye on didn't seem interested, he then turned his attention to Natalee. He drugged her and she ended in up in the company of three self-proclaimed pimps.

They did drive by another club and Deepak got out for a minute and came back quickly. (is that why the bouncer of that second club was later found murdered?) Then they went to Joran's house but Natalee wanted to see the sharks. They then drove to the area of the lighthouse while Natalee was going in and out of consciousness.

Deepak was pizzed because he didn't want Natalee to get sick in his car so he took Joran and Natalee to the area of the Fisherman's hut? Joran thought he'd have his way with a semi-conscious Natalee who eventually wouldn't wake up. Joran picked her up and carried her towards the hotels. He left her on the side in the mango bushes while he called for help, Deepak 8 minute cell call and then he called his dad? or did he walk home with one shoe?

Joran was spotted coming from the lagoon, wet up to his chest with one shoe. He was later spotted in a 'red' jeep (VDS car) with a man that looked exactly like his dad PVDS.

There were two bank withdrawals from an atm that morning,..........but it can't be verified because the young woman who was bank manager mysteriously died about two weeks into this saga.

A meeting was held by the VDS pool that night, between J2K, PVDS, and????? ("your own father, unbelievable!")That night there was also a visit to freddy's house by the trio, who were returning a 'video camera.' ("freddy knows!")

VanderStratton "how can I arrest my best friends son?" soon arrested two security guards fingered by Deepak. But the trios freedom was soon jeopradized as Deepak FORGOT their phones were bugged and he called Joran to say he'd 'hit the jackpot!' with an alleged witness of dropping Natalee off at the Holiday inn. Not to worry, Paulus hooked the K2s up with an attorney. The day after the trio was taken into custody the infamous 'confession' that later turned into a 'misunderstanding.' But alas, that same day and the next day was the making of the underground "ArubaBay" video, starring??????????? and the painting of the rocks, all filmed in close proximity of the 'lighthouse.'

Of course, there's the infamous 'polis car tape' of the trio blaming each other for their predicament and warnings that "they control me like they control you!" "I said your dad just said if there isn't a body, then they don't have a case." ("Freddy knows! They just need to talk to Freddy!")

Of course it was just a coincidence that just before the K2s were released from jail their step-dad suddenly had the money to purchase the internet cafe that Deepak worked at. Of course it was just a coincidence that the day Deepak had told Mr. Skeeters he would take a lie detector test (just let me talk to my lawyer) that K2 were re-arrested and then all three were released just a few days later.

Of course it's just a coincidence that the alleged Dr. Phil tape released from Aruba is different than ALL others shown on U.S. tv. Of course it is just a coincidence that K2 has enough $$$ to sue Dr. Phil. Of course it's just a coincidence that VanStratten was transferred in the beginning to another island. Of course it's just a coincidence that one of the pros was taken off the case when she thought there was more to the original story. Of course it's just a coincidence that Dompig, at the end of his heading the Natalee Holloway case, was able to open his own business,..........oh,........and that Michael Dompig (Chief's son) lied about those he knew to be involved in the case. Of course it's a coincidence the 'blood' turned into 'chocolate.'

Oh...............did I mention that one of the cars pawned off as Deepak's wasn't really Deepak's? I mean, I may not be the smartest, but I can count from 1 to 6. Five spokes vs six spokes on a wheel does show, FWIW.

Yeah, PARTS of Joran's story are true and some a lie. But I won't hold my breath on this. Aruba will NOT prosecute these scum and neither will Holland. It's all just a big cover-up!

Follow the money!:mad:

JMHO
fran

PSSS.....Oh, yeah! Let's NOT even get into the # of Joran's friends hauled in for questioning and then they suddenly 'bolted' off the island of Aruba, soon followed by their entire families, who left behind their prospering Aruba businesses. I'm sure there's no connection.:rolleyes: Just like there's no connection with Ben King and the Cuacua judge who HAPPENED to be at the VDS residence when ALE served a search warrant and they JUST HAPPENED to change the SW criteria.:waitasec: Oh.........wait, they denied that, didn't they?:mad:

PPS....Oh, and I just know that posting I saw that referred to the early stages of the Holloway case that said the 'bangbus guys went too far,' was just something to throw the investigation off. Course, no one saw it, that I know of..........LOL, sorry, {no link} ;) fran

PPPS......FWIW ..........sorry IF I forgot anything. It has been 3 1/2 years, after all! grrrrrrr......fran
 
This isn't a recent interview of Joran. It was made months before the Thialand tapes came out. Greta just released it now. Fox thought it was a fake story and now I believe they're seeking ratings.

It's all bULLoney, just another story from a psychopath.
I wish Greta would have released this in the spring prior to the most recent news. It's deceiving that makes it look like Joran is talking to media currently.
But whenever the tape was actually made, Joran is just a psychopathic liar. He would be a good partner with KC.
 
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