ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 3

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suniskye said:
Someone in the other thread stated that CE and RF both had some guy in KIA (jail) as FB friends. I'm still trying to figure out why they would befriend a known human trafficker that's in jail in Aruba, on FB.
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I read it too and it did make me curious. I don't know why they befriended him or when but I did look up the site and from what I've seen it looks like a err escort service featuring international connections.
 
suniskye said:
If she thought she was there for pictures for her modeling career, him taking her to a secluded rocky area would not have been threatening to her. Apparently she trusted him or she would not have gone. I think she did something to make him mad. It could be she read her messages to RF. It could have been refusal to do what he wanted or, it could have been the fact that she perhaps had to take a pill in order to even stomach him touching her. We just do not know but something set him off.
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ITA. One of the biggest clues we have IMO is the fact that so many different accounts have come out about his anger, rage, etc.

Off the top of my head:
1. His 1st wife
2. VP - wrote sexual assault report in 2010
3. JF - dated him in 2009
4. CJ - friend of Robyn said Gary does get angry, etc.
5. Anonymous - said was offered a cruise by Gary and how angry he got when she refused

There may be others. Another woman got a protection order on him for which the stated reason was "choking" so anger was probably a part of that, too. That would make six. But basically, this guy can SNAP!
 
IMO - It's totally ridiculous for anyone to presuppose that this guy wouldn't or couldn't SNAP, given his history of anger and sexual violence towards women.
 
suniskye said:
Someone in the other thread stated that CE and RF both had some guy in KIA (jail) as FB friends. I'm still trying to figure out why they would befriend a known human trafficker that's in jail in Aruba, on FB.
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I think RF accepts whoever requests him, there are a few posters who became friends with him on FB. He very well may have never heard of Alex Mathew.

If you search, Alex Mathew (FoxyLady Aruba), on FB, his wall is public and it's hard to tell if it's even him doing the posting.
JMHO
 
HatesSociopaths said:
ITA. One of the biggest clues we have IMO is the fact that so many different accounts have come out about his anger, rage, etc.

Off the top of my head:
1. His 1st wife
2. VP - wrote sexual assault report in 2010
3. JF - dated him in 2009
4. CJ - friend of Robyn said Gary does get angry, etc.
5. Anonymous - said was offered a cruise by Gary and how angry he got when she refused

There may be others. Another woman got a protection order on him for which the stated reason was "choking" so anger was probably a part of that, too. That would make six. But basically, this guy can SNAP!
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I believe every single one of these stories. I do not believe the mom and daughter. I believe they may have been contacted by him but I do not believe she is being honest about the extent of the conversation. She's trying to make a buck.

He was a domestic violence case waiting to happen. The very first thing I did upon learning he was from MD was to look him up in case search ... most of the things you've listed are documented there.

The fact the the man dressed up in a deer suit and hid in one woman's back yard spying on her tell you he's a loon. Not only did he do that but he didn't trust her and if she said she was going to the grocery store he made her take a picture of herself there to prove it.

He not only had anger issues but he also had self-image insecurity issues.

If Robyn was disgusted and grossed out by him making advances towards her, that would set hiim off ... could also be a reason the woman would have popped a pill to tolerate the situation she had gotten herself into.
 
annalia said:
I think RF accepts whoever requests him, there are a few posters who became friends with him on FB. He very well may have never heard of Alex Mathew.

If you search, Alex Mathew (FoxyLady Aruba), on FB, his wall is public and it's hard to tell if it's even him doing the posting.
JMHO
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I could not find his FB page. I was curious and wanted to see it. Inquiring minds wanna know. I searched Alex Mathew ... nadda came up.
 
IMO - he could have raped and killed her in one of those abandoned buildings and then had his car parked to cover, put her into the car, and drove her to another part of the island for disposal.
 
concentric said:
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-18/...ities-travel-insurance-aruba-cops?_s=PM:WORLD

about bloody handprints found on rocks behind the Nanki Country Club, the same spot where the pair was said to be snorkeling.
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I think he could have raped her in one of the abandoned buildings.

We need to see what these buildings looked like. There is some footage somewhere.
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The bloody hand print is in dispute...

"A purported key piece evidence in the mysterious disappearance of missing American woman Robyn Gardner doesn't exist, police have revealed.

But Aruba Solicitor General Taco Stein said in an interview Saturday night: "The detail about the hand print and blood is not true."

"That is not something that we have found," the Solicitor General said, adding: "Let me put that to rest as that only hinders the investigation."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ba-disappearance-no-bloody-handprint-evidence

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suniskye said:
If she thought she was there for pictures for her modeling career, him taking her to a secluded rocky area would not have been threatening to her. Apparently she trusted him or she would not have gone. I think she did something to make him mad. It could be she read her messages to RF. It could have been refusal to do what he wanted or, it could have been the fact that she perhaps had to take a pill in order to even stomach him touching her. We just do not know but something set him off.
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An article stated that she saw him twice a month and someone noted on another thread that her friend admitted that they once had a sexual relationship. So, it's possible she still had an ongoing sexual relationship with him.
A lot of women meet men off of these dating sites and are looking for money in exchange for services, especially in this economy. Whether or not this was the premise of their relationship from the getgo, I do not know. I do not know why else she would be interested in him, unless he made career promises or in some way took care of her.
 
suniskye said:
Someone in the other thread stated that CE and RF both had some guy in KIA (jail) as FB friends. I'm still trying to figure out why they would befriend a known human trafficker that's in jail in Aruba, on FB.
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I'm guessing for RF it is to inquire what's going on with GG while in KIA.. but I'm just guessing. For CE, maybe trying to get educated, as she is now purporting herself as a lecturer in the subject of Human Trafficking and modeling.
 
Peliman said:
I read it too and it did make me curious. I don't know why they befriended him or when but I did look up the site and from what I've seen it looks like a err escort service featuring international connections.
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CE befriended AM on Aug 16th. RF, I'm not sure. He has so many postings on his FB page, I can't find it.
 
AngelFish said:
I'm guessing for RF it is to inquire what's going on with GG while in KIA.. but I'm just guessing. For CE, maybe trying to get educated, as she is now purporting herself as a lecturer in the subject of Human Trafficking and modeling.
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I can't find her on there.

She sees dollar signs and unfortunately, many are buying into it. I don't know her personally but she's going to cash in on this. She ought to go out and lecture on why any mother in their right mind would allow their kid to pose half nude at the age of 14.
 
AngelFish said:
CE befriended AM on Aug 16th. RF, I'm not sure. He has so many postings on his FB page, I can't find it.
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I found Alex but wasn't able to look at his friends list and I'm not about to befriend any of these people in order to do that.
 
JodieSoda said:
An article stated that she saw him twice a month and someone noted on another thread that her friend admitted that they once had a sexual relationship. So, it's possible she still had an ongoing sexual relationship with him.
A lot of women meet men off of these dating sites and are looking for money in exchange for services, especially in this economy. Whether or not this was the premise of their relationship from the getgo, I do not know. I do not know why else she would be interested in him, unless he made career promises or in some way took care of her.
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I'm more apt to think $ and promises for her career. I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt. No matter what she signed on for tho, she didn't deserve to have this happen to her.
 
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