ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - # 3

[Peliman]

I thought Stein had said there was one witness to see them last, the owner of the diveshop JADS?
Restaurant staff from the Rum Reef sounds like a couple of people there who not only saw them but even add some info.

The owner from te diveshop saw nothing unusual in their behavior, acc. to Stein contrary to the Rum Reef staff.


The source for the Rum Reef staff seeing them noticing things, then the addition of GG who allegedly said Robyn took sleepingpills is all in the same article (the only source) as the bloody handprint on the rock, Stein already said the handprint not being the true, did any official confirmed the sleeping pills mentioned by GG?

Not that I'm aware of was there official confirmation on the sleeping pills, just what's reported.
A fisherman reportedly saw Giordano and Gardner leaving a beach together, and said they did not get into the water.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/44227...search-aruba-missing-us-woman-yields-nothing/

Last I've heard for last seen reporting was a fisherman who was fishing in the area of the beach GG said they went snorkeling. The fisherman reports they never went in the water and got into his car and left about 4pm.

Actually I should source that because I don't know how that info was sourced. Yes, here's a report.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

I'm left with the impression that there are some people working for the media so desperate for their next paycheck that they will invent news on this case when none exists.

 

[Dushi]

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1108/18/ijvm.01.html


Apparently not true. Nice catch.

Yes nice catch

and yesterdays report said an open but unused condom

 

[Dushi]

I'm left with the impression that there are some people working for the media so desperate for their next paycheck that they will invent news on this case when none exists.

I could not agree more

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Scratch the date rape drug theory off the list.

Can't solve a case when you are being fed "facts" from the media that are BS.

Poor show.

 

[plaidmom]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44227326/ns/world_news-americas/?GT1=43001

The comment is posted by gtouch.

I have not heard this before.

I read that comment as a not-so-successful attempt at humor.

The person I would most like to hear from again? RG's roommate CJ (may we mention her name here?).

The comment she made early in the case that RG's and RF"s relationship is "not quite what it seems" bothered me then and continues to nag at me. I wish she'd come back and explain what she meant by that.

 

[suniskye]

I'm left with the impression that there are some people working for the media so desperate for their next paycheck that they will invent news on this case when none exists.

BINGO!

In reality, there is very little news coming from those who would know the truth, the police and investigators.

What we are hearing is scripted for prime time tv talk shows.

 

[OneLostGrl]

Thanks.

CE is now posting on the website for Robyn that the family has set up on FB.

She is a piece of work. I see on her wall there that she's threatening to sue people for defamation of character.

I find that funny.

Yeah, her own daughter. :crazy: Not the one who was on the show, a different name. The daughter is apparently posting under her 18 month old child's name talking crap to the mother. I have a feeling that daughter could share some interesting tales. lol

 

[Peliman]

Seroe Colorado, Aruba (CNN) -- Police in Aruba launched a new search Monday for missing U.S. woman Robyn Gardner, but no body and no new clues were found, Aruban authorities said.

The search area, a rugged terrain on the Dutch Caribbean Island, is covered with cactus and other treacherous desert plants. It included a section next to the Correctional Institute of Aruba, where the only suspect connected to the case is being held.

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/americas/08/22/aruba.missing.woman/?hpt=T2

 

[suniskye]

Yeah, her own daughter. :crazy: Not the one who was on the show, a different name. The daughter is apparently posting under her 18 month old child's name talking crap to the mother. I have a feeling that daughter could share some interesting tales. lol

So many people believe this woman. That's the sad part and she's going to try to get rich off that poor family's hardships. Takes alot of nerve to befriend a man in prison in Aruba ... this woman is simply crazy. She thinks she's going to crack this case.

I can't wait until the FBI releases what they have found on his videos and computers from here in MD. If they decide to release that information.

 

[Micheline]

Yes. That is the way it seems
Rumor that grows legs and is reported as fact IMO

Same for the insurance, GG called the insurance agency August 4 to make inquiries whether costs related to the search for Robyn were covered by the insurance he took out, yet him doing so has been changed into he tried to cash in 1,5 August 4.

Then there are the pictures found on a camera that was left behind in the hotelroom, that was turned into his camera, while it may have been Robyn's since he probably left her posessions behind.
These pictures were done voluntarily, per Stein, so announcing the pics is invading the privacy of both GG and Robyn, unnessairy, nor does it shed a light on what happened to Robyn August 4.

There was also the claim Robyn went with a man she hardly knew, someone she met online while her friend said on tv:

(CNN) DELAWTER: No. I mean, Gary -- she was over Gary. He was a friend. She`s -- it`s not -- the press keeps making it out that they had just met, and that`s not the truth. They have known each other for at least three, four years.

She was over Gary, or better she was into him at some point during those 3-4 years, and they stayed friends.

 

[annalia]

I'm left with the impression that there are some people working for the media so desperate for their next paycheck that they will invent news on this case when none exists.

Is it just being made up though?

I recall reading the same thing in the Aruba Herald. Who were the sources?

There was obviously a leak, how would JR know what was in the pictures and there were several articles that included comments by Taco Stein regarding being aware that someone was leaking information. One of them was the article in pap that I posted today.

Easy to blame the media but someone was giving out unauthorized information.

JMHO

 

[JodieSoda]

I'm left with the impression that there are some people working for the media so desperate for their next paycheck that they will invent news on this case when none exists.

I think you are definitely right, but not just in this case but so many other stories as well. I'm sure of it as it has happened recently in my area when they knew certain rumors were fabricated. I don't even trust the news anymore; guess I never should have.

 

[annalia]

Same for the insurance, GG called the insurance agency August 4 to make inquiries whether costs related to the search for Robyn were covered by the insurance he took out, yet him doing so has been changed into he tried to cash in 1,5 August 4.

Then there are the pictures found on a camera that was left behind in the hotelroom, that was turned into his camera, while it may have been Robyn's since he probably left her posessions behind.
These pictures were done voluntarily, per Stein, so announcing the pics is invading the privacy of both GG and Robyn, unnessairy, nor does it shed a light on what happened to Robyn August 4.

There was also the claim Robyn went with a man she hardly knew, someone she met online while her friend said on tv:

(CNN) DELAWTER: No. I mean, Gary -- she was over Gary. He was a friend. She`s -- it`s not -- the press keeps making it out that they had just met, and that`s not the truth. They have known each other for at least three, four years.

She was over Gary, or better she was into him at some point during those 3-4 years, and they stayed friends.

My bolding

I can't recall, was it specifically reported that the camera was found in his hotel room, that he had left it behind, or just that it was found? Did they find it after he was arrested when he was trying to leave?

Describing what was in the pics to the public would be an invasion of privacy, if they were consensual, so how does a local Arubian reporter get the intimate details and turn around and announce it to a larger media?

 

[Peliman]

The stories have been convoluted, I think it's time some rich corporation or casino stepped up and in the name of justice and honor, offer a $25,000 reward for information leading to the whereabouts of Robyn Gardner.

Maybe it would inspire more islanders to search for her.

 

[Micheline]

My bolding

I can't recall, was it specifically reported that the camera was found in his hotel room, that he had left it behind, or just that it was found? Did they find it after he was arrested when he was trying to leave?

Describing what was in the pics to the public would be an invasion of privacy, if they were consensual, so how does a local Arubian reporter get the intimate details and turn around and announce it to a larger media?

Stein said the photographs were found in a camera that apparently was recovered from a hotel room where the two stayed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-gardner-case/2011/08/18/gIQAD0imNJ_blog.html

 

[HatesSociopaths]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/robin-gardner-mystery-aruba-video-witness-dispute-giordanos-14354161


You can see the fisherman in this video.

By the way, it appears ABC News was the first to pop the sleeping pill story, as well as the bloody rock, etc. I wrote the reporter and asked him what was up with that. His name is Matt Gutman.

 

[HatesSociopaths]

Stein said the photographs were found in a camera that apparently was recovered from a hotel room where the two stayed.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-gardner-case/2011/08/18/gIQAD0imNJ_blog.html

“We have a camera that’s been confiscated,” Stein said. “We surmise it’s his camera but there’s not yet a definite point of view on that. And there are explicit pictures on that camera.”

He surmises it's his camera. I'm pretty sure it is. The "that" in your quote may be introducing the reporter's own conclusion. It's not a direct quote from Stein. Just sayin'. It could be a lot more clear, for sure.

 

[Micheline]

“We have a camera that’s been confiscated,” Stein said. “We surmise it’s his camera but there’s not yet a definite point of view on that. And there are explicit pictures on that camera.”

He surmises it's his camera. I'm pretty sure it is. The "that" in your quote may be introducing the reporter's own conclusion. It's not a direct quote from Stein. Just sayin'. It could be a lot more clear, for sure.

Why are you sure it is his camera?

GG was on his way to the USA, thinking ALE was fine with him leaving, why then leave the camera at the hotel?
(since I would think he had his own posessions in his luggage)

Stein does not seem to be sure.

 

[Innocent Bystander]

Has anyone been following the Find RG Facebook page? What is up with RF? Ok, perhaps he loves RG, but...but... something just does not seem right... He is just so over the top in his posts to "her" and about "her". Is anyone else sensing the same?