AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #4

[Makara]

MOD ALERT: This thread is for Karlie and Khandalyce. It is not a thread about the inconsistencies of MSM or bashing the media. Leave it out of the discussion and stay on topic.

 

[JaneSA]

Yes and there wasn't just a sighting of the suitcase man there was also this....

A witness has come forward to tell detectives *investigating the case of a murdered girl’s body found dumped in the Murray Mallee that they saw a possible suspect walking out of scrub at a different location.

An Adelaide business owner says he was returning from a family function along the Karoonda Highway in late May when a man aged about 60 and dressed in a suit emerged from scrubland and quickly crossed the road.

He appeared to be on a *mobile phone at the time.

The neatly dressed, clean-cut man disappeared into scrub on the other side of the 172km highway, on a 32km stretch that links the Murray River town of Tailem Bend with Wynarka, a tiny town that’s about 120km southeast of Adelaide.

The witness recently returned to the site and is believed to have found a black tub swarming with flies and a washing basket. The witness gave a statement to Major Crime detectives last week.

Link - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...alia-murder-hunt/story-e6frg6nf-1227497110993

Gosh, it seems so long ago. I had forgotten the black tub!

 

[JaneSA]

Is it a little weird they move into another suburb and easily traceable. Wonder if they went to Alice Springs for awhile. Also the mess they left behind. Do they have to clean a property before they re- let it in S.A. I find getting a new tenant to clean up the previous tenants mess somewhat odd, even if it was a Government home.

You are right. The landlord cleans the house (or hires someone to do it) regardless of whether the landlord is the government or private.

 

[melsmemories]

Is it a little weird they move into another suburb and easily traceable. Wonder if they went to Alice Springs for awhile. Also the mess they left behind. Do they have to clean a property before they re- let it in S.A. I find getting a new tenant to clean up the previous tenants mess somewhat odd, even if it was a Government home.

You are meant to clean a property before you leave it . Even in a goverment home . If you dont you will be charged the cost of cleaning it .

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[melsmemories]

You are right. The landlord cleans the house (or hires someone to do it) regardless of whether the landlord is the government or private.

Sorry jane didnt see your post

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[Suziek]

Just speculating, but perhaps they broke up at that point (neighbours report they fought a lot, perhaps there was some kind of violence) and she left without a chance to take everything. He was with a different woman in 2012.

leaving behind such things that are memories of her children that have passed away does not make sense.......its quite odd really...
photos etc of my child who passed away are the first things I would think of to grab in fire etc...they can never be replaced and to me are precious...I don't get it???

 

[Kouriouskell]

love it , do you have a theory of who might of dropped the suitcase off . Do we know yet from police , when DH , was incarcerated ? Has he been incarcerated for a while or only since this this Murder charge re, Karlie . sorry I've got information over load .

I've got a wild theory about how the suitcase could of ended up in wynarka - sorry it's off topic compared to the current conversations but i thought i would just add my 2 cents in. And apologies in advance if someone has already said the same...


I've driven a fair bit on Australian country roads at night time, and it's not uncommon to go through a Police random booze bus and its also not uncommon to go through night time road works, these two could easily look like each other when driving at night, especially if there was a bend in the road and all you could see was bright lights up ahead. Police have stated there was road works in Wynarka before the case was found. Even if the road works were done during daytime hours flood lights ect around vehicles do get left on sometimes.

If the person who had the suitcase in there vehicle was driving through that area at night, they could of easily got spooked by the lights up ahead. They would have been on edge anyway you would think because of the contents of the suitcase. If you also add that person could of been on some type of substance that would make it even worse with paranoia. As i stated in a previous post, the police do have a right to search your vehicle.

So what im getting at is... the person could of seen these lights ahead thought it was a booze bus, dumped the suitcase in the bushes with intention to come back for it and drove through because they had to get to where they were going.

Why didn't they come back for it? The road works crew in the location might have made it too risky to return straight away without being spotted and when they did return someone could have gone through the suitcase already and moved it.

Wynarka is such a random location to dump the suitcase and this is all i could come up with. If you look at the pics i have attached you can see on the karoonda hwy photo its a bit steep and there is a bend in the road so you wouldn't have the best visibility to see for miles ahead of you at night time on that stretch of road.

Karoonda Hwy

Night time Booze Bus

Night time road works

Carry on :thinking:

Image links..

Boozebus image link - http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...-to-be-abolished/story-e6frg13u-1226579557383
road works link - http://www.abc.net.au/hobart/contribute/view_media.htm?id=132ddcf4-f526-4845-ba4e-e23832f5b673
Karoondy hwy link https://www.youtube.com/user/SAPoliceNews

note these were just random images i found and the news articles arent relevant to the case.

 

[visioneye]

I have wondered if they left in a hurry because either they thought the law was catching up with them or someone was after them. Even though they got away with this for years they'd be stupid not to worry that they might eventually get caught:

Can anyone find a link to the date in 2011 they did the runner from the Hillbank property? Wondering if it could coincide with the 2 December 2011 release of the facial reconstruction of the then unknown "Belangalo girl"? I know some of the article left behind are Christmas decorations. I know they didnt go far, but it may have relevance if that house is connected to Karlie in some way. Apologies if this has already been sorted.. so much to take in..
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-she-belanglo-girls-skull-reconstructed-20111202-1oa1x.html

 

[boomboom26]

Can anyone find a link to the date in 2011 they did the runner from the Hillbank property? Wondering if it could coincide with the 2 December 2011 release of the facial reconstruction of the then unknown "Belangalo girl"? I know some of the article left behind are Christmas decorations. I know they didnt go far, but it may have relevance if that house is connected to Karlie in some way. Apologies if this has already been sorted.. so much to take in..
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-she-belanglo-girls-skull-reconstructed-20111202-1oa1x.html

it didn't look anything like her so I am not sure that would have forced them to leave urgently, I am wondering what they were upto when the body was originally found? maybe they moved in early 2011 after they heard the body was found? I am sure it would have taken a little for the news to hit Adelaide?
I didn't even know about it until this case.

 

[crabstick]

I think Khandles was wrapped in white plastic sheet in the black tub before being placed in the suitcase. Someone did that between the cairns on the slip road between the railway line and the highway.

White plastic sheet is often used to grow indoor marijuana

Did someone pack up their dope and leave?

Yes and there wasn't just a sighting of the suitcase man there was also this....

A witness has come forward to tell detectives *investigating the case of a murdered girl’s body found dumped in the Murray Mallee that they saw a possible suspect walking out of scrub at a different location.

An Adelaide business owner says he was returning from a family function along the Karoonda Highway in late May when a man aged about 60 and dressed in a suit emerged from scrubland and quickly crossed the road.

He appeared to be on a *mobile phone at the time.

The neatly dressed, clean-cut man disappeared into scrub on the other side of the 172km highway, on a 32km stretch that links the Murray River town of Tailem Bend with Wynarka, a tiny town that’s about 120km southeast of Adelaide.

The witness recently returned to the site and is believed to have found a black tub swarming with flies and a washing basket. The witness gave a statement to Major Crime detectives last week.

Link - http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...alia-murder-hunt/story-e6frg6nf-1227497110993

 

[JaneSA]

love it , do you have a theory of who might of dropped the suitcase off . Do we know yet from police , when DH , was incarcerated ? Has he been incarcerated for a while or only since this this Murder charge re, Karlie . sorry I've got information over load .

Based on Bliss's theory, would it be likely that the person would be travelling in a westerly direction?
That has always seemed likely to me given the side of the road the case was dumped on.
If so, were they returning to Adelaide from somewhere in the east?

 

[Kouriouskell]

i just found this , unsure how to post the link
Who is she? Belanglo girl's skull reconstructed
Date
December 2, 2011
i think your on to something

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-sh...constructed-20111202-1oa1x.html#ixzz3qE72CtuC
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Can anyone find a link to the date in 2011 they did the runner from the Hillbank property? Wondering if it could coincide with the 2 December 2011 release of the facial reconstruction of the then unknown "Belangalo girl"? I know some of the article left behind are Christmas decorations. I know they didnt go far, but it may have relevance if that house is connected to Karlie in some way. Apologies if this has already been sorted.. so much to take in..
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-she-belanglo-girls-skull-reconstructed-20111202-1oa1x.html

 

[Kouriouskell]

can someone please tell me , how i supply a link to comments . i am using a Apple Icomputer

 

[crabstick]

Speculation, not fact!

Set up a business name under a ghost account, then run your dope money through it?

Here's that link again. http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?abn=94740016021

STEVENSON, KARLIE JADE
ABN status: Cancelled from 30 Sep 2015
Entity type: Individual/Sole Trader
Goods & Services Tax (GST): Not currently registered for GST
Main business location: SA 5116
Trading name(s)
Trading name
KP EXPLORATION DRILLING 01 Jan 2011
ABN last updated: 02 Oct 2015
http://abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbnHistory.aspx?abn=94740016021

 

[Bliss_Perth]

Based on Bliss's theory, would it be likely that the person would be travelling in a westerly direction?
That has always seemed likely to me given the side of the road the case was dumped on.
If so, were they returning to Adelaide from somewhere in the east?

I think what ever direction they were going they would have crossed to the side of the road where there was denser scrub near the railway line.





The road works were completed in March - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-...fy-who-emptied-suitcase-child-remains/6643172

The earliest dash cam vision was in May 2015 - link to the dash cam vidion http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/...552640937?sv=a4cd6a6f9f4742d019ab16405416a7a4

(In some of the vision, it is clear the suitcase has been moved.)


Ariel View
Image screen cap from sa police youtube - link https://www.youtube.com/user/SAPoliceNews

 

[Bliss_Perth]

leaving behind such things that are memories of her children that have passed away does not make sense.......its quite odd really...
photos etc of my child who passed away are the first things I would think of to grab in fire etc...they can never be replaced and to me are precious...I don't get it???

If they were little trinkets for a christmas tree, they might have been forgotton about and just assumed it was all xmas decorations like tinsel ect

 

[Meli]

BBM : What. I remember watching the opening of the bypass of Goulburn. What was he doing in Goulburn?

Just an idea, could DJH have been in Goulburn in 2012 for a motorsports event at the Goulburn Speedway. Seems more likely than visiting the big Merino, lol. DJH was at a car show with HP (and Khandalyce, and possibly Karlie) in Alice Springs back in 2008.
The 16yo fiancé he was with in 2012 was named Ms Blundell, the Canberra/ ACT Speedway has a Bill Blundell Memorial race. Perhaps motorsports is a connection between them all?

http://communityswitch.com.au/events/view/10334/act-speedway-bill-blundell-memorial-and-demo-derby/

 

[Bliss_Perth]

We know the score don't we my friend. So good to see you again Poss.

I'm interested in this pic that 'the bloody media' took for us. (Tongue in cheek comment)

Noticed what looks like a Holden shirt being a little worn but who is standing nearby side the car with their face blurred out?
It's not a member of the media.

In the video you can see the son at the door with a black garbage bag, then again that was him in the video after putting the rubbish in the bin.

 

[Wolfinator]

Can anyone find a link to the date in 2011 they did the runner from the Hillbank property? Wondering if it could coincide with the 2 December 2011 release of the facial reconstruction of the then unknown "Belangalo girl"? I know some of the article left behind are Christmas decorations. I know they didnt go far, but it may have relevance if that house is connected to Karlie in some way. Apologies if this has already been sorted.. so much to take in..
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/who-is-she-belanglo-girls-skull-reconstructed-20111202-1oa1x.html

I don't have a date but kudos for some lateral thinking. Could trigger some panicked behaviour.


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[reasypeasy]

You are right. The landlord cleans the house (or hires someone to do it) regardless of whether the landlord is the government or private.

I'm a landlord in South Australia, although I do rent through an agent so someone else handles most of the legalities for me. I don't think there's any specific legal duty to hand over a property in totally spic and span condition, but it has to be safe and more or less habitable. You can still sign a tenancy agreement to rent out your property if the kitchen counters need a wipe, the carpet needs vacuuming, the previous tenant has left one cupboard full of old newspapers and there are a few dirty smudges on the walls. The place is still habitable and safe, the tenant knows what condition it is in when they sign.


At the beginning of a tenancy the landlord/agent and tenant both do checklists regarding the condition of the place and the object is for them both to sign off on the same opinion of the state of repair and cleanliness of each room. Then that process is repeated at the end of the tenancy. The tenant is supposed to hand back the property as good or better than they got it apart from normal wear and tear... if they don't the landlord can keep some of the deposit to pay for cleaning/repair/garbage removal. Obviously it is in the landlord's interest to have the initial checklist look pretty good.