Australia - 3 dead after eating wild mushrooms, Leongatha, Victoria, Aug 2023

[MsMarple]

yes, to some people. But calling a store an ‘Asian grocer’ isn’t. This is literally what they display in the signage on their stores.
If a friend told me they got something at an Asian grocer I wouldn’t be thinking ‘racist’.

Yeah I don’t think it was about the term Asian market - that’s what we call them here in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S. too - as much as wondering if EP is trying to blame a lack of quality control on Asian run markets.

IOW maybe she’s trying to blame a small family owned business for selling foraged death cap mushrooms. As if they aren’t regulated as well as a chain supermarket.

 

[srper2]

That is an interesting question. I would have to start again from the beginning. I think we need a cause of death before we can make guesses about motives or draw inferences about guilty knowledge.

They would then have a good idea from toxicology testing on the deceased what other poison they were fed that day instead I suppose.

 

[srper2]

It must be worrying for her that there is one key witness who so far has survived. I hope that she is blocked from visiting him and also from sending him anything at all as that could also be contaminated.

 

[jepop]

Police are forensically testing the dehydrator, which was first seized from the Koonwarra transfer station.
9News understands the dehydrator was seized by police from a bin on Friday.

Police request CCTV at tip in mushroom poisoning investigation

www.9news.com.au

The article is from Wednesday 9 August: "Friday" would be 4 August. "Understands", though, isn't altogether conclusive.

Thanks for reposting a link. I'm a bit slack like that!

 

[srper2]

It must be worrying for her that there is one key witness who so far has survived. I hope that she is blocked from visiting him and also from sending him anything at all as that could also be contaminated. In my opinion if she really went to hosiptal, she feighned illness to attempt to reduce suspicion, as she was quickly up and about and looking perfectly well while her guests were dead or dying.
(Sorry for double post, this is playing up for me today!)

 

[Doesitmakesense]

I wonder how they would prove she did it intentionally?

I think if they can prove the mushrooms were foraged and not purchased, her recount of events would prove she's trying to hide something/being untruthful. IMO if she did pick wild mushrooms, she would have been better just saying that. Whether intentional or not, it would be up to the investigators to prove it was with malicious intent

 

[srper2]

I think if they can prove the mushrooms were foraged and not purchased, her recount of events would prove she's trying to hide something/being untruthful. IMO if she did pick wild mushrooms, she would have been better just saying that. Whether intentional or not, it would be up to the investigators to prove it was with malicious intent

She may have picked the poisonous mushrooms when they were around and dried them ready for when needed? (For poisoning.....)

 

[MadDoc]

New to me.

I've never heard of any chain asian food stores. I didn't know they existed,

The Asian Food Specialist | KFL Supermarkets

KFL is an Asian grocery store chain in Melbourne. There may be others but this was the first one I thought of.

They don't have a store in Mt Waverley. though. The closest would be Wantirna South, Forest Hill or Box Hill.

 

[JBowie]

But the point is she does know.....because she went there.

Its a stretch to forget a specialty shop that you are introducing to the narrative..... that is now at the heart of a murder investigation with your name on it.

I personally think she is a intelligent attention to detail kinda gal.

It is in her best interest to not be able to identify the store conveniently.

Stacking up the lies and red flags.
Just doesn't happen when you are innocent.

IMO, an innocent person would be assisting police to the max in any regard, such as actively working hard to identify the stores she says that she visited in Mt Waverley.

 

[Charlot123]

This is a serious issue, and of course it can occur, but from what I know not as lethal or fatal as the death cap mushroom issue.

I still think her actions and statements indicate guilt.

Listeriosis is unpleasant, but not immediately deadly to three people and the fourth needing a liver transplant. Maybe one out of four, severely immunocompromised, might have died if it was his very unlucky day, but what happened in Leongatha looked like poisoning.

 

[JLZ]

The Asian Food Specialist | KFL Supermarkets

KFL is an Asian grocery store chain in Melbourne. There may be others but this was the first one I thought of.

They don't have a store in Mt Waverley. though. The closest would be Wantirna South, Forest Hill or Box Hill.

AFAIK there's been no MSM reference to an Asian store chain. The "chain" reference would be to an ordinary supermarket where she bought the other mushrooms.

 

[JBowie]

This has me scratching my head: How does anyone of reasonable intelligence think that they are going to get away with serving up a dish containing death cap mushrooms without succumbing to the toxin themselves, and then claim it was an accident?

 

[Salah11]

Sorry if this has been asked as I have only posted on here today.


She claims she got them at a convenience store so why hasn’t she handed the packaging or a receipt to LE?

I mean I find it hard to believe that her lovely In Laws didn’t get sick and didn’t give her a heads up so surely you would go straight to the bin and grab the packaging because you would want to do all you could to help.

 

[JennieM]

Sorry if this has been asked as I have only posted on here today.


She claims she got them at a convenience store so why hasn’t she handed the packaging or a receipt to LE?

I mean I find it hard to believe that her lovely In Laws didn’t get sick and didn’t give her a heads up so surely you would go straight to the bin and grab the packaging because you would want to do all you could to help.

She said she bought them months ago (those from the Asian store).

 

[Salah11]

She said she bought them months ago (those from the Asian store).

Still would have the package though that she took them out to cook with.



I am amazed she just didn’t say she picked them and made a grave error (idiot card)coz then they would have to prove intent imo

Her story just makes zero sense as it stands.

 

[JLZ]

Sorry if this has been asked as I have only posted on here today.


She claims she got them at a convenience store so why hasn’t she handed the packaging or a receipt to LE?

I mean I find it hard to believe that her lovely In Laws didn’t get sick and didn’t give her a heads up so surely you would go straight to the bin and grab the packaging because you would want to do all you could to help.

Convenience store?

Well what if she depackaged them and discarded the receipt--if there was a receipt--soon after she bought them months ago?

I don't know if the in-laws would have given her an immediate heads-up. Not really polite and tactful to call someone to say their cooking made you sick.

 

[srper2]

She said she bought them months ago (those from the Asian store).

They are usually vacuum sealed in plastic, so she must be implying she unpackaged them months ago and stored in a different container?

 

[JLZ]

Still would have the package though that she took them out to cook with.

They must have been in a container of some sort, but not the original packaging necessarily.

 

[srper2]

Still would have the package though that she took them out to cook with.



I am amazed she just didn’t say she picked them and made a grave error (idiot card)coz then they would have to prove intent imo

Her story just makes zero sense as it stands.

Seems she has a weird and sus excuse for everything at the moment and her story is becoming more convoluted and colourful every day.....

 

[srper2]

They must have been in a container of some sort, but not the original packaging necessarily.

Likely she tossed that too when she threw the dehydrator in the tip?