Australia - Allison Baden-Clay, 43, Brisbane QLD, 19 April 2012 #18

[kalamityk]

First time poster - I have been following this story from a couple of days after Allison went missing - we were on the Gold Coast that first weekend- there is talk of NBC being at a bus shelter - I have gone back through lots of pages and can't find anything - could someone enlighten me please

 

[J-Diggety]

First time poster - I have been following this story from a couple of days after Allison went missing - we were on the Gold Coast that first weekend- there is talk of NBC being at a bus shelter - I have gone back through lots of pages and can't find anything - could someone enlighten me please

Little bit here

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173829&page=36

 

[Greg]

It is strange. The people I'm talking about are caring people, so it's not like they disregarded it or anything. They're always shocked when I say what's been happening.

This case has struck an emotional chord with us for some reason, not everyone shares our grief regarding this......i guess..

Someone at work asked me today why I was so concerned with this, I couldn't really answer but I knew inside myself that this woman that I never met deserves justice, to not just be a discarded object of some piece of ****...and the scum that did this needs to know that people do care and she wont be forgotten and that those responsible will be hunted down and brought to justice.

sorry if that was a bit incoherent I find it easier to say funny things than to look into my heart and express the feelings within.

 

[Blue Bottle]

I'm actually surprised at the amount of people in the Brisbane / Ipswich area who hardly know anything about this case. I've mentioned it to a few and they say "Who? ... oh really?" ... and they can either briefly recall hearing something on TV about it or they have never heard of it. I'm always dumbfounded.

I'm not in QLD but that doesn't surprise me you saying that linette. Like already posted, many people don't watch the news or read papers. I hardly watch tv and only skimp the news on the internet on occassion.

The main reason my interest was quirked is because I'm a long time WS lurker (but only joined a couple of years ago) and initially being an Aussie missing case, it attracted my interest and attention. Otherwise, to be honest, I'm not sure I would have really noticed or heard about Allison.. Took an American forum for me to notice. Not so good eh.. : (

Noone where I am has hardly heard of Allison or her murder either. Unless one is obssessed by this like some of us are, life has moved on forward for others... I guess plenty of other local happenings, murders and stabbings and deaths to read about since.

 

[squizzey1]

First time poster - I have been following this story from a couple of days after Allison went missing - we were on the Gold Coast that first weekend- there is talk of NBC being at a bus shelter - I have gone back through lots of pages and can't find anything - could someone enlighten me please

That was me some time ago. A local who knows the family saw NBC at the bus shelter late that night{not sure of exact time around 11 or 11.30 I believe}. Since she knew him and it seemed extremely odd she stopped and asked if he was ok {Initially thought he may be drunk} He said he was ok so she let him be. very reliable info. its just i wasnt told the exact time.

 

[possumheart]

Food for thought.
GBC is a Mac user (heresay)
To clear a Mac with 1 terrabyte hard drive to US Military Standard takes seven passes and approximately 27 hours. (Information from a Mac specialist).
IMO if GBC had the knowledge and was INDEED a mac user, he would have had time to erase his hard drive sufficiently if the crime scene was not declared until Saturday morning. My hunch was that the family photos were on an external hard drive or another computer.

 

[Berry]

better than expected i believe but often really sad though. i posted this before that a friend has been going to the house which is all barricaded up and girls apparently not allowed out. the friend went to police and was talk that child services may get involved in some way. as late as last night i could not get an update from my family. not much help i know:banghead:

When your friend said 'barricaded up' squizzey, is this using things to cover the front door, or front stairs or driveway?

And what sort of 'barricades' were used....ropes, poles I think it sounds so weird?

TIA

 

[Bayside]

I'm actually surprised at the amount of people in the Brisbane / Ipswich area who hardly know anything about this case. I've mentioned it to a few and they say "Who? ... oh really?" ... and they can either briefly recall hearing something on TV about it or they have never heard of it. I'm always dumbfounded.

My daughter in law lives on the Sunshine Coast and I brought it up with her on the weekend and said how IMO I think GBC did it. She says "Oh really, see I don't think he did."
I asked her why she didn't think so... she said "Well, I haven't heard anything about it so I thought it must be someone else." I told her the things we know as FACT {Not just the theories we have on here} and she looked horrified and then said "Well, I think I'm beginning to see things differently now."

I think it's because the case hasn't been in the papers and on TV as much as some others are, so people aren't clued up on it. My DIL did say she'd overheard talk at work where a few thought GBC did it, but she wasn't sure why they would think that. She'd heard next to nothing about the whole case.

When we visited my 95 year old grandfather he asked my husband did he think that .... errr wont use the word he used cos its not pc but lets say did that girly looking fella at brookfield kill his wife.

 

[Bayside]

When your friend said 'barricaded up' squizzey, is this using things to cover the front door, or front stairs or driveway?

And what sort of 'barricades' were used....ropes, poles I think it sounds so weird?

TIA

She probably means bunkered down, he wouldnt want people taking pics of the kids in the yard.

 

[Fuskier]

I met the girls for the first time a few weeks ago, along with the Dickies. The girls honestly looked to me like they are looking at life without seeing. That might sound strange, but their eyes were strange. I have a hard time describing it, and as I walked away I had to stop myself from bursting into tears. I'm having trouble remembering it now and not breaking down - which make me feel quilty. Why am I so sad? I still have my mother, I should be thankful, but I'm empathetic. Thankfully though, you can see the bond between the three girls is very strong. It was suggested that they do something, and they conferred with each other and as soon as the youngest said she didn't want to do it, the other two said they were staying with her.

The Dickies were just lovely, beautiful people. Very interested to know all about me and my life, probably as a nice distraction for them. They did look like they'd aged a lot too from when I first saw them on the news. It must be terrible having to bury a child.

All IMO, but I'm sure this was pretty clear from how they were shown in the media - just so concerned and bringing food for the SES and staying every day. I didn't offer my condolences, in fact I didn't say a thing about Allison or the situation, and I don't know whether that was the right thing to do or not but I didn't want to remind them. I hope it was the right thing to do.

zookyliz: Just being there as a friendly, warm, caring person is being a support. You do not have to acknowledge as they probably have enough of that painful memory, but to engage them in the 'here and now' type conversation is very supportive, a kind of distraction from their loss. Your observations about the 3 little girls is poignant. Sad. Nobody replaces a mother. The function can be filled, but the person who she was cannot.

 

[possumheart]

When we visited my 95 year old grandfather he asked my husband did he think that .... errr wont use the word he used cos its not pc but lets say did that girly looking fella at brookfield kill his wife.

:clown: your grandfather is a legend :clown:

 

[linette]

This case has struck an emotional chord with us for some reason, not everyone shares our grief regarding this......i guess..

Someone at work asked me today why I was so concerned with this, I couldn't really answer but I knew inside myself that this woman that I never met deserves justice, to not just be a discarded object of some piece of ****...and the scum that did this needs to know that people do care and she wont be forgotten and that those responsible will be hunted down and brought to justice.

sorry if that was a bit incoherent I find it easier to say funny things than to look into my heart and express the feelings within.

Well said, Greg. You're right, certain people have more of an attachment to certain things. Like some people are closely following the bikie wars, where as I don't really care.
But I think once there has been an arrest alot more people are going to take notice.

 

[J-Diggety]

Food for thought.
GBC is a Mac user (heresay)
To clear a Mac with 1 terrabyte hard drive to US Military Standard takes seven passes and approximately 27 hours. (Information from a Mac specialist).
IMO if GBC had the knowledge and was INDEED a mac user, he would have had time to erase his hard drive sufficiently if the crime scene was not declared until Saturday morning. My hunch was that the family photos were on an external hard drive or another computer.

He may have used secure erase if he has a mac

 

[linette]

When we visited my 95 year old grandfather he asked my husband did he think that .... errr wont use the word he used cos its not pc but lets say did that girly looking fella at brookfield kill his wife.

Haha, classic !!!:floorlaugh:

 

[squizzey1]

When your friend said 'barricaded up' squizzey, is this using things to cover the front door, or front stairs or driveway?

And what sort of 'barricades' were used....ropes, poles I think it sounds so weird?

TIA

bunkered down is better wordage. fibro over the windows etc. presumably to keep press and curious people at bay. still not ggod for the girls

 

[Nads]

That was me some time ago. A local who knows the family saw NBC at the bus shelter late that night{not sure of exact time around 11 or 11.30 I believe}. Since she knew him and it seemed extremely odd she stopped and asked if he was ok {Initially thought he may be drunk} He said he was ok so she let him be. very reliable info. its just i wasnt told the exact time.

So, I'm assuming they told the police? I just thought it was all a rumour, of an older man. Didn't know it was someone who knew him, and then they stopped!

 

[squizzey1]

She probably means bunkered down, he wouldnt want people taking pics of the kids in the yard.

Thats what i meant Bayside probably used the wrong word oh and squizzey is a HE lol

 

[linette]

That was me some time ago. A local who knows the family saw NBC at the bus shelter late that night{not sure of exact time around 11 or 11.30 I believe}. Since she knew him and it seemed extremely odd she stopped and asked if he was ok {Initially thought he may be drunk} He said he was ok so she let him be. very reliable info. its just i wasnt told the exact time.

So he could have even been in shock... after being told what had happened? That could give the impression of being a bit disheaveled.
If she knew him, I think he would be a bit worried that she could identify him... how would he explain that away to the police?

 

[Humdinger]

bunkered down is better wordage. fibro over the windows etc. presumably to keep press and curious people at bay. still not ggod for the girls

breaks my heart... I get why he's done it and it's good to know that they're safe from people peering in etc, but t can't be normal for them... But then how do we know that the girls haven't requested it? We don't know what they've been told happened to their Mum, maybe they're scared that the boogeyman will come back and get them? Poor little darlins...

 

[Fuskier]

Well said Greg. Agree with your reasons. Its called beng a decent human being.