GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

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Hi,
I'm a newbie. Have been lurking for a bit. Have read all posts now, including from other thread. My thoughts on a few things:

1. He could really b innocent (tho I think he is likely guilty). I hope the police have more DNA other than from the "rape" if he is guilty, or he can simply claim consensual sex.

2.He may have came through an open window (not a door or by a key)

3.The picture posted of his "brother", looks like someone unrelated. Teenagers often call each other bro and sis, when they r unrelated (I've worked with teens). The picture of his supposed father, could simply b an uncle, or other relative. Who knows.

4. He seems mild mannered to me. Teens often get into punch ups and paste threats to each other on fb. He had one known altercation. Not unusual or a sign to me of an aggressive person.

5. Not unusual for some teen girls to date up to 10 boys. Some of these "relationships" last like 2 weeks. lol. Chantelle seemed normal.

6. I recall my parents letting me stay home alone at 16, with the explicit instuctions not to have a party. Yeah, right. lol.

7.Interested to know what his workmates witnessed in terms of his behaviour and mood at work. Think it is likely he had both a personality (OCPD, NPD) and a mood disorder (e.g. depression/bipolar), tho sometimes the symptons can b hidden from others. Also, having this would not mean he would "get off" or end up in the psych ward - depends on type and severity of illness. Doubt any possible illness was of the level of psyschosis (hallucinations and delusions) as noone has mentioned he was behaving erratically prior or after. What was his mood and behaviour like prior to the murders, did his workmates notice anything?
 
To the neighbour,

I've also ignored many a domestic that I have heard from my neighbours. I've walked past houses were domestics have occured, and seen other neighbours also ignoring them. And, I have been involved in loud, screaming domestics myself that I know my neighbours have heard, and where the police were not called. Some families just have loud domestics every now and then, and they end quickly without a murder or psyhical violence. If the police were called every time someone yelled or screamed, the police would never b available because they would b too busy. Do doubt if you had any suspicion there was a murder, if it sounded like one, whatever that sounds like, you would have called the police. It wasn't your doing.
 
Hi, and welcome. I understand some people believe there is the very slight chance he could be innocent. but they do have his DNA from the scene plus im sure they have a lot of other evidence too. But in a case like this im sure the police would not arrest him unless they were 100% sure it was him, because if it ended up not being him, his whole reputation would have been ruined if found not guilty. i dont think they would risk that. they would have been absolutly sure it was him before arresting him.

Also to the people who think it may not have been him, who else could it have been? Is there anyone else that would have a motive to do this? i dont think so, no one else has brought up any other possible suspects who would have a reason to kill this poor family.

Also you just dont accidentally kill THREE people with a knife or what ever blade it was. Maybe you could claim one was accidental not 3 and not so brutally. There would have been an intent to kill 3 people.

Even if he claims the sex was concential, she was under age so hes gonna get done for that.
 
Was thinking maybe he wasn't so dopey to offer his DNA. Perhaps they could have gotten it when they searched his house (like his hair from a hairbrush). Maybe that's why he walked around for days thinking he didn't have to run, (if he is guilty). But then, the police would have to b certain that was his DNA.
 
on bebo it says in a relationship...could that be chantelle???? when did they go out???
 
I thought her page was taken down? are you sure its hers? whats the link? It must be a fake one surely?

Sorry! I meant her brother. I just realised their initials were the same, woops, my bad.
 
Was thinking maybe he wasn't so dopey to offer his DNA. Perhaps they could have gotten it when they searched his house (like his hair from a hairbrush). Maybe that's why he walked around for days thinking he didn't have to run, (if he is guilty). But then, the police would have to b certain that was his DNA.

Him and several other local kid volunteered their DNA to the police, that's fact
 
I am thinking the police had their facebook accounts hidden to keep people from going in there and deleting anything.

On the accused being a shy a quiet, nerdy guy, some quotes from an argument that tells me differently, names removed. The accused posts have of course been removed when his account was deleted/hidden but you can get the gist from the other posts. I will call the person being threatened PBT:

Friend: stfu and stop starting **** with my mate ****. U wanna start hit be ready for when it ends ayy

PBT: so now youve both threatend to bash me **** your both heaps tuff u wanna go then sure

Assumed Brother: Woah Wtf **** has a mouth on him lmao *advertiser censored* PBT i can't believe my lil bro's kicking your *advertiser censored* at this lol and he's weak....PBT a lil tip don't mess wit **** cuz he seriously will *advertiser censored* you up lol theres a tip 4 ya keep it in mind

Assumed Brother: Aww well **** happens aye bro lol never *advertiser censored* wit the Scots you know ill always have ya back 4 life bru....just go over there and *advertiser censored* him up lol will teach him to keep him dumb *advertiser censored* mouth shut *advertiser censored*n drooling to much ****.....beat you up lmao thats a knee slapper

These are in order, there's many more in between and after but these give you the gist. When PBT said "now you've both threatened me" at that point in time only that quote by his mate was there so unless someone elses replies have been deleted the other person could only be assumed to have been the accused.


Is anyone able to provide more clarification on this post as I'm a little confused.
 
Nobody11,
I'm sure some teens volunteered DNA, but how do u know the accused did?
 
I believe the comment you require clarification on is a discussion that was had on Facebook? between [alleged suspect] his brother and some other guys. [alleged suspect] comments are missing as his account has has been removed. If i have understood it correctly, it was [alleged suspect] brother warning someone not to mess with [alleged suspect] because he will *advertiser censored** you up and kinda saying not to press his brothers button. That was my take on it. Its on a few pages ago this morning and on the first thread. If i have got it wrong, then please correct me.
 
I guess you could call this info a rumor as a friend of mine living in kapunda wrote it. I don't want to point to her post. The gist was, he was a quiet lad, controlling mother and violent step father, thank God they caught him.
 
did the mother marry in australia??

and do police usually call on a the specialist (cant think of what they called him) to inspect thecrime sceen when there was a suspected murder, before they release informaqtion to the public???
 
The other day when i was researching, i found information that it is possible for DNA to be able to determine an approximate age of a suspect. perhaps that is only the case with DNA testing in other countries though.
 
The other day when i was researching, i found information that it is possible for DNA to be able to determine an approximate age of a suspect. perhaps that is only the case with DNA testing in other countries though.

DNA cannot determine the age of a person, DNA stays the same for your entire life. (Hence why they use it)

A computer converts it into a series of numbers, with the last number indicating whether they are a male or female.
All they can really do with that information is match it to a sample, they can't determine anything more from it than gender.
 
but if he was at the party surely he would have thougth his dna would be there from that...so to 'act' inncocent supply dna and if caught then explaination?? but thawt woudl bepend on the type of dna too i would presume
 
I am hoping to god it's blood....that would be almost impossible to explain away, as they would be able to tell if he spilled it as the crimes were committed.
 
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