Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #15

[paulrobo239]

I beg to differ

Six degrees of separation is the idea that all living things and everything else in the world are six or fewer steps away from each other so that a chain of "a friend of a friend" statements can be made to connect any two people in a maximum of six steps. It was originally set out by Frigyes Karinthy in 1929 and popularized in an eponymous 1990 play written by John Guare.

and also

contrary to popular belief/opinion. something that you say before you make a statement that is the opposite of what most people believe Contrary to popular belief, bottled water is not always better than tap water.

Misadventure or she wanted to disappear. Certainly not CSK related.

 

[Hilo]

Well well what angles are there:
random perp
premeditated
opportunistic
trickery
just to name a few .
What are some peoples reason to even have a interest in 3 women going missing?? What's your motive ?

In the last 3 years I've seen some intense media coverage with multiple throw off angles and ways to disparage people from story's that are trying to be released to the public .
a lot can anyone count ? Richard dorrough , Noel Clifford , kimonos

whats is the motive , look at the link provided above

My motive- I care that 3 women disappeared, two confirmed killed and there's a sick f*^* who has ' gotten away' with it- so far.

 

[paulrobo239]

My motive- I care that 3 women disappeared, two confirmed killed and there's a sick f*^* who has ' gotten away' with it- so far.

needs to be plural.

 

[ilikeclouds]

Haven't they come and said they believe they were killed at the dump sites or that's the angle they're going to run with? If DNA has linked the cases to the cemetery rape I think DNA would be a massive sway for the prosecutor.

 

[paulrobo239]

Is there a article link for said discussion on the case of the c.s.k

Haven't they come and said they believe they were killed at the dump sites or that's the angle they're going to run with? If DNA has linked the cases to the cemetery rape I think DNA would be a massive sway for the prosecutor.

 

[no name]

No name - would you think that it is highly likely that the DNA from the KK victim was a complete DNA profile?

I would hope so certainly, it seems to be their best chance anyway IMO. But who knows. Perhaps he wore gloves & a condom & its minimal. They dont have her clothes as far as we know so its possible thats its a lot less complete than one would reasonably expect with a sexual assault.
I hope we get to find out eventually.

 

[paulrobo239]

Hence my angles arguement pertained in the above pages .
with out seeing the case put forth from the crown in the direction of Bradley I'm indifferent . As for me to assume , assumptions are the mother of all f ups .

 

[petedavo.au]

Liquidambar bonsai tree. Who knew?

 

[no name]

Is there a article link for said discussion on the case of the c.s.k

Go a few pages back and you'll find the Post Newspaper article

 

[no name]

Hence my angles arguement pertained in the above pages .
with out seeing the case put forth from the crown in the direction of Bradley I'm indifferent . As for me to assume , assumptions are the mother of all f ups .

If you think for a second that any of us aren't aware that we know next to nothing about this case or that any comments we make are pure speculation, you would be mistaken. Fortunately, we are not tasked with ensuring our assumptions are correct so whether or not they are the mother of all f ups, it matters not.

 

[mumma]

As SherlockSleuth said, "But, that's a damn good likeness between BRE and the actor in the Dido vid, you have to admit."

Personally I think the guy in the video resembles David Hasselhoff a little. JMO of course

 

[paulrobo239]

I struggle to even entertain this notion . Imo if people actually believe a serial killer makes a random Montague , uploads to you tube , then bails when the heat gets on , is the same as triangulating numbers etc far left field for a foul ball.
Can anyone please link all the random media articles for the last four years ?

As SherlockSleuth said, "But, that's a damn good likeness between BRE and the actor in the Dido vid, you have to admit."

Personally I think the guy in the video resembles David Hasselhoff a little. JMO of course

 

[petedavo.au]

I struggle to even entertain this notion . Imo if people actually believe a serial killer makes a random Montague , uploads to you tube , then bails when the heat gets on , is the same as triangulating numbers etc far left field for a foul ball.
Can anyone please link all the random media articles for the last four years ?

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=294704

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[Innerchild]

Wheres our helpful friend PCS When we need answers ?

snipped by me.

PCS did say # 1064 I don't have a copy of claremont ghosts videos. Police do. Dodo song was full length. One eyed doll song was ' Be my friend' Pretty catchy tune. A bungalow usually has a front enclosed veranda. and # 1065 Enclosed,yet open.no window.

I'm interested because without the videos metic, your post of the two images Saturday 29th 12.41 am including image hint 7 is the best we had.

I saw this post early that morning and it was a very clear shot of a salmon brick building with floor length doors (initially I thought they were windows but looked closer I could tell they were garage doors as I could see the steel pattern). Not an expert on plants but it wasn't a bonzai, looked to be geranium family.

However looking on the posts later in the day, that image had changed to the current blurred one. I took your advice and tried to make it clearer and took it to a mate who is a technician in a working audio visual studio, with the best equipment available. I'm posting an inverted image (dark to light) and as visable as possible image that he could retrieve. However it's nowhere near to the image posted initially, and could'nt be cleaned up without the original image resolution. You might be able to tell there is a floor length opening at the front, as the bricks had redish colour coming out of them. Driveway was a solid colour so not bricks below a window.

JMO cause without seeing a better original impossible to be definite. However, after chasing around for Silas's factory, and while reading coming across an interesting description of a building which could match this clue I think I have the address and the reason why this was a clue.

 

[Annalise]

snipped by me.

PCS did say # 1064 I don't have a copy of claremont ghosts videos. Police do. Dodo song was full length. One eyed doll song was ' Be my friend' Pretty catchy tune. A bungalow usually has a front enclosed veranda. and # 1065 Enclosed,yet open.no window.

I'm interested because without the videos metic, your post of the two images Saturday 29th 12.41 am including image hint 7 is the best we had.

I saw this post early that morning and it was a very clear shot of a salmon brick building with floor length doors (initially I thought they were windows but looked closer I could tell they were garage doors as I could see the steel pattern). Not an expert on plants but it wasn't a bonzai, looked to be geranium family.

However looking on the posts later in the day, that image had changed to the current blurred one. I took your advice and tried to make it clearer and took it to a mate who is a technician in a working audio visual studio, with the best equipment available. I'm posting an inverted image (dark to light) and as visable as possible image that he could retrieve. However it's nowhere near to the image posted initially, and could'nt be cleaned up without the original image resolution. You might be able to tell there is a floor length opening at the front, as the bricks had redish colour coming out of them. Driveway was a solid colour so not bricks below a window.

JMO cause without seeing a better original impossible to be definite. However, after chasing around for Silas's factory, and while reading coming across an interesting description of a building which could match this clue I think I have the address and the reason why this was a clue.

Hi Innerchild - this is going to sound crazy but since the picture has been changed from dark to light I can see one large face of a man wearing sunglasses and other faces in the background as if people were outside a cafe😬 MOO

 

[Innerchild]

7yrs after SS disappearance. Snippets of Article by Liam Bartlett in Sunday Times on 26Jan03.

"The crime scenes were not fertile,'' says Caporn reluctantly, then adds with limited enthusiasm that the taskforce is re-examining all of the forensic items ``to see if improved extraction techniques can take us anywhere''.

The lack of DNA, primarily due to the time it took to find the bodies of Jane Rimmer and Ciara Glennon, is a major hurdle.
For Jane's body, 54 days in the middle of winter in an area with a high watertable made DNA retrieval almost impossible. Ciara's body was found within 18 days but, once again, a heavy rainstorm during that time has caused investigators major grief.

Macro's problems don't end with a lack of DNA evidence; investigators still haven't figured out how the girls got into the killer's car.

Certain items of clothing remain missing from both crime scenes and they are at a loss to identify the murder sites.

Police are convinced that Jane and Ciara were not murdered where they were found.

They are equally sure that both women were killed close to the point of abduction and that both were killed on the same nights they were taken. But the remaining pieces of this macabre jigsaw are missing.

The pressure remains on Lance Williams and there is no sign and no official noises being made to suggest police will relax their attention.
``We'd love to be able to eliminate him as a suspect but we can't,'' says Caporn. ``He has no alibi.''

As for Caporn, the waiting game is definitely the stuff of nightmares. ``Am I worried that I'll stuff it up? Absolutely. I wake up at night and think I may have missed something . . . absolutely.''

Hmmmm... Seems he got the last 6 words right at least.

So... Are we now supposed to trust that this once barely existent DNA has suddenly morphed into proof beyond reasonable doubt that the accused DNA is not only reliable in its presence, but that it somehow answers all of those unknown things and proves he is guilty as charged.
Im sorry, but theres not even the slightest chance you could convince me of that without some pretty compelling additional evidence to back that up. Not for a second could DNA be enough. Particularly seeing the chance of it being a definite match is probably slim at best with the chance of contamination being more likely than not. Just MO

I don't think you can trust anything the king of stuff ups said. Subsequently they have said they have DNA linking CG and the KK rape. https://www.scribd.com/doc/285268021/POST-Newspaper-for-17th-of-October-2015

Police have made a positive link between an u known rap-ist and the murderer of one of the three victims of the infa-mous Claremont serial killer.

The forensic link shows that t h e m a n who a b d u c t e d a w o m a n from a Claremont street late at night and sexually assaulted her in Karrakatta Cemetery in 1995, is the same man who murdered Ciara Glennon. snipped

 

[Innerchild]

Hi Innerchild - this is going to sound crazy but since the picture has been changed from dark to light I can see one large face of a man wearing sunglasses and other faces in the background as if people were outside a cafe MOO

Yep, it's just about impossible . There was no one there originally but now you say that I can see something there, as well as something like a smiley face on the right hand wall. I guess it's funny??!

 

[Innerchild]

Does anyone have a copy or a link to the news article where there were two couples who thought they saw JR on Stirling Hwy later the night she went missing? Also, there were other unconfirmed sightings.

 

[Hilo]

Hi Innerchild - this is going to sound crazy but since the picture has been changed from dark to light I can see one large face of a man wearing sunglasses and other faces in the background as if people were outside a cafe[emoji51] MOO

Me too [emoji41]

 

[Annalise]

Me too [emoji41]

Hi Hilo - I'm so glad you saw the same as me. Thought I was losing the plot. The geraniums (or whatever they were) suddenly turned into solid outlines of a face😂 IMO