Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #18

[Canning Vale]

I do wonder if police have tracked down the other prior owned vehicles including partners cars. Mainly to see if those vehicles had anything, I wonder if cars were swapped during the crimes.

Hopefully WAPOL have tracked down his vehicles. In 1986 when BRE initially started work with Telecom (Telstra) he probably wasn’t entitled to a work vehicle. At some stage he would have been promoted, and quite possibly a vehicle came with that position.

Perhaps during 1986 to 1988 he may have been driving a Toyota or Gemini.

Sometimes government employees purchase ex-government vehicles from the auction. They’re probably only two-years old and low-mileage.

These are only my thoughts and opinions.

 

[crabstick]

Hopefully WAPOL have tracked down his vehicles. In 1986 when BRE initially started work with Telecom (Telstra) he probably wasn’t entitled to a work vehicle. At some stage he would have been promoted, and quite possibly a vehicle came with that position.

Perhaps during 1986 to 1988 he may have been driving a Toyota or Gemini.

Sometimes government employees purchase ex-government vehicles from the auction. They’re probably only two-years old and low-mileage.

These are only my thoughts and opinions.

Government vehicles were auctioned off usually at 40000 km, or 2 years of age. Occasionally there was a policy for work vehicles at 100000, say trucks etc.
This is part of the reason we came to the conclusion that it was a Telstra worker. Before the accused was arrested.

There was a van a Karrakatta, which we associated with an electrical tech van, and a Commodore which was a model of car under a year old. The Commodore might not have been 9 months old. Combine that with the speculation of telephone cable by The Community Post was used to tie both the Karrakatta vicitm and Ciara.
Presumption was it be a Telstra stationwagon as the car was a new release and the model less than a year old.

At 9 months old as a new model, the car may have done 40000km as a Telecom vehicle with the option of purchase.

Otherwise, based on the fibres, someone was picking up people in a Telecom car at 9 months old, if that depending on purchase date.

Maybe in 1988 someone might have been driving a girlfriends vehicle of an extra marital affair? Or, he gave it to her after he owned it?

If the vehicle started production in say mid 1995? *Not sure on this but deffo 1995. By the time the car is produced in 1995 hits the sales yard, and on the road through the supply chain. Then by January 1996, VS Commodore would not be a year old.

VS Commodore not even 12 months old, maybe only 6 months old as a model of vehicle, let alone its age. Was it a company vehicle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Commodore_(VS)

The Holden Commodore (VS) is an executive car which was produced by the Australian manufacturer Holden from 1995 to late 2000

Police need to find all the old cars, especially the 1988 Hilux 4WD.

 

[crabstick]

Were all the parents of Kerry Turners daycare, and all the parents of Janes daycare collated at the time?

Where did Kerrys parents live? Where did Kerry go to Highschool? Who else went to that school? A girlfriend of an accused?

 

[Canning Vale]

Cutlers father lived in Kalgoorlie. Did the perp or associates ever go up to Kalgoorlie? Lisa Govan went missing in Kalgoorlie?

Play football up at Kalgoorlie? Lived in country town on the way to Kalgoorlie as a child? What is his association with Kalgoorlie?

At Kalgoorlie there are brothels, pubs and there was also the Hainault mine and various sports. I don't mean to be rude but there's not much to see or do at Kalgoorlie.

 

[crabstick]

At Kalgoorlie there are brothels, pubs and there was also the Hainault mine and various sports. I don't mean to be rude but there's not much to see or do at Kalgoorlie.

Play country football, Speedway, work? Its where Cutlers father lives.

While the Karrakatta victim might have said van, it could have been a 1988 Hilux with a fibreglass canopy on top?

1988 was one of the first high level rally races held in Perth. RE: Dorothy and Julie Cutler and speculation of speedway car or rally car.

Rally Australia is an automobile rally event which was held in and around Perth, Western Australia from 1988 until 2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_Australia

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

If you look at history of Western Australia and early settler families, most of them went to find gold during the boom times! Living and working in Kalgoorlie area trying their luck at stepping in a nugget.

So many WA families who have been here since the gold rush era (late 1800's-early 1900's?) have their roots in Kalgoorlie.

Most families left when they realised they weren't going to get rich quick. But lots of families stayed on.

Perhaps the Cutlers had their roots in Kalgoorlie, and still had relatives living there.

OR: Either parent was a geologist or other speciality career involved with gold mining.

Edit: Cutlers were obviously wealthy enough to keep their home in Fremantle, while the rest of the family moved (?) to Kalgoorlie.

IMO They moved there for work or family.

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[crabstick]

So how many kilometres a day does a techie Telecom Commodore stationwagon do?

500km per week = 100km per day

30000km per year? The VS Commodore Telecom car may well have still been in commission if vehicles are auctioned at 40000km?

What did Julie Cutlers father do as a job in Kalgoorlie? Julie Cutler was a border at Iona? The gardner was interviewed at Iona?

Dont say the Iona gardener was Wark. He lived in Mosman Park with his parents apparently.

Edwards is a popular surname, Kalgoorlie

GROWTH OF EDWARDS FIND MINE

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/a...oorlie&searchLimits=l-state=Western+Australia

 

[ESH]

The blue car being stored for so at Kewdale property means that:
A) it was being driven and used;
B) a hoarder lives in that house;
C) it held some sentimental value;
D) it was/is a trophy piece;
Or
E) another (sordid) reason!


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F) It didn't go....beyond repair & no one wanted to pay disposal costs

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[Spooks-R-Us]

F) It didn't go....beyond repair & no one wanted to pay disposal costs

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Yeh good point!
Goes with the hoarding theme too


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[petedavo.au]

Cutlers father lived in Kalgoorlie. Did the perp or associates ever go up to Kalgoorlie? Lisa Govan went missing in Kalgoorlie?

Play football up at Kalgoorlie? Lived in country town on the way to Kalgoorlie as a child? What is his association with Kalgoorlie?

Father and Uncle involved in the Mining Industry. At least they were in the 1970's, according to newspaper articles in Trove, presumably the father still is, if not the Uncle.

Don't ask anything more, otherwise SillyBilly will shut down this line of inquiry again.

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[janwa]

Father and Uncle involved in the Mining Industry. At least they were in the 1970's, according to newspaper articles in Trove, presumably the father still is, if not the Uncle.

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Didn't someone connected with a Telstra worker say he had gone there with a team to do a job but didn't socialise after dinner, kept to himself.

 

[Canning Vale]

Government vehicles were auctioned off usually at 40000 km, or 2 years of age. Occasionally there was a policy for work vehicles at 100000, say trucks etc.
This is part of the reason we came to the conclusion that it was a Telstra worker. Before the accused was arrested.

There was a van a Karrakatta, which we associated with an electrical tech van, and a Commodore which was a model of car under a year old. The Commodore might not have been 9 months old. Combine that with the speculation of telephone cable by The Community Post was used to tie both the Karrakatta vicitm and Ciara.
Presumption was it be a Telstra stationwagon as the car was a new release and the model less than a year old.

At 9 months old as a new model, the car may have done 40000km as a Telecom vehicle with the option of purchase.

Otherwise, based on the fibres, someone was picking up people in a Telecom car at 9 months old, if that depending on purchase date.

Maybe in 1988 someone might have been driving a girlfriends vehicle of an extra marital affair? Or, he gave it to her after he owned it?

If the vehicle started production in say mid 1995? *Not sure on this but deffo 1995. By the time the car is produced in 1995 hits the sales yard, and on the road through the supply chain. Then by January 1996, VS Commodore would not be a year old.

VS Commodore not even 12 months old, maybe only 6 months old as a model of vehicle, let alone its age. Was it a company vehicle?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Commodore_(VS)

The Holden Commodore (VS) is an executive car which was produced by the Australian manufacturer Holden from 1995 to late 2000

Police need to find all the old cars, especially the 1988 Hilux 4WD.

Crabstick,

What was this one alegedly involved in....

Police need to find all the old cars, especially the 1988 Hilux 4WD.​

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Didn't someone connected with a Telstra worker say he had gone there with a team to do a job but didn't socialise after dinner, kept to himself.

Can't recall that one - But Don Spiers drive to Kalgoorlie to speak with a man seated at a Kalgoorlie bar. All on the suggestion of a psychic.

Edit: must find link.
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[petedavo.au]

Didn't someone connected with a Telstra worker say he had gone there with a team to do a job but didn't socialise after dinner, kept to himself.

My old school friend who worked with him on a 2 week job in Waroona said that. But it was about Waroona, not Kalgoorlie. Maybe someone else said same.
The accused didn't stay the weekend with the other Techies in Waroona at the Hotel paid for by Telstra, but went home instead. When my old school friend asked DF, the accused working partner, he was told it was because the accused wife wanted him home on the weekends, apparently.

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[Canning Vale]

Cabstricks I'd be interested to know if JC went missing on a quarter mòon as CG, JR, SS all did.

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I've researched all of the moon phases for each of the incidents. According to my records the moon phases were at the following: SS 51%, JR 39%, and CG 35% - there was nothing to suggest a quarter moon.

The reason I researched the moon phases was to prove/disprove that the moon phases had anything to do with the incidents.

Could you please provide your findings for the quarter moons.

Many thanks.

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

Father and Uncle involved in the Mining Industry. At least they were in the 1970's, according to newspaper articles in Trove, presumably the father still is, if not the Uncle.

Don't ask anything more, otherwise SillyBilly will shut down this line of inquiry again.

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Thanks for answering my suspicions of the Cutler's being involved in mining industry Davo. [emoji16]
Do you have links please?


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Were the Cutler's 'big players' in mining industry ?

It's a stretch, but maybe JC's attack was a revenge hit on the Cutler Family. I'm not suggesting the Cutler's did any illegal dealings, but they may have inadvertently upset the wrong people!

Just seems strange that JC was stalked and harassed by another car while driving on the road, and then went missing soon after, and her Fiat dumped in Cott Beach.


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[petedavo.au]

Thanks for answering my suspicions of the Cutler's being involved in mining industry Davo. [emoji16]
Do you have links please?


PLUS
Were the Cutler's 'big players' in mining industry ?

It's a stretch, but maybe JC's attack was a revenge hit on the Cutler Family. I'm not suggesting the Cutler's did any illegal dealings, but they may have inadvertently upset the wrong people!

Just seems strange that JC was stalked and harassed by another car while driving on the road, and then went missing soon after, and her Fiat dumped in Cott Beach.


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Bob Silich worked on the Leopold Nickel case. He'd be the one to ask about that sort of thing. Unfortunately he's deceased. Maybe the police should ask his son?

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[no name]

My old school friend who worked with him on a 2 week job in Waroona said that. But it was about Waroona, not Kalgoorlie. Maybe someone else said same.
The accused didn't stay the weekend with the other Techies in Waroona at the Hotel paid for by Telstra, but went home instead. When my old school friend asked DF, the accused working partner, he was told it was because the accused wife wanted him home on the weekends, apparently.

I dont suppose you know, or your friend can recall when this was exactly? Sounds like the old teenage ploy 'Im staying at theirs, they're staying at mine' while you go nightclubbing all night. In this case, perhaps an empty holiday house not too far away and a night on the prowl was on the agenda. Pure speculation of course. Its just as likely he didnt want to say 'I have to be home for little athletics'.

 

[crabstick]

F) It didn't go....beyond repair & no one wanted to pay disposal costs

You could get decent wrecker money for that car. I've seen worse fetch a thousand. It was there later than 2007. Might be vintage now.

 

[petedavo.au]

I dont suppose you know, or your friend can recall when this was exactly? Sounds like the old teenage ploy 'Im staying at theirs, they're staying at mine' while you go nightclubbing all night. In this case, perhaps an empty holiday house not too far away and a night on the prowl was on the agenda. Pure speculation of course. Its just as likely he didnt want to say 'I have to be home for little athletics'.

My old school friend took a redundancy in 2002. Wasn't long before then he said. My old school friend had the accused father as a boss, so different teams.

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