Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #19

[Owlie]

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[Owlie]

For those who have recently joined the forum. Below is a former post from Mo Joe which lists missing/murdered women of WA. Special thanks to JWSleuth, Sutton and Papertrail for compiling the information.

Please take particular note of the murders/abductions which occurred between 1986 to 1991. No one has been charged with those murders?

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ralia-3/page16

25/8/1969 Jean Climas ex Mosman Park missing. initially from Vic. May have taken on new identity.
22/9/1969 Anne Zapelli ex Geraldton although from Morowa. policeman boyfriend. missing walking home from drive-in theatre. SA pedophile in area at time death bed confession.
9/12/1975 Glenyce McGowan ex Nunaturra camping ground traveling to Darwin ex Parmelia.
28/12/1979 Kerryn Tate missing found at Boulder Rock. Found deceased by fire (?) May be occult connection as she had connection to group.
21/3/1980 Sophie Woodman (traveling last known in Vic with young girlfriend who left and went to Qld, Sophie's homebase WA)
13/9/1980 Annette Deverell ex Mandurah outside post office last seen talking to man in yellow panelvan; headless corpse located 7/7/1982 Waroona Dam.
30/10/1980 Lisa Mott ex Collie missing; last seen talking to man in yellow panel van. Birnie known to have been in Collie at time.
18/3/1986 Sharon Fulton ex East Perth Railway Station missing dropped off by husband. Maybe domestic involvement.
26/5/1986 Cheryl Renwick ex South Perth worked at psych hostel Northbridge. Could man named Masters be responsible?
27/8/1986 Barbara Western ex Vic Park, located 19/3/1991 (cemetery record) Spectacles (south of Perth). Headless torso in roadside ditch
6/10/1986 - 10/11/1986 5 x Birnie abductions; 4 murders 1 survivor.

Note: The Birnies were active during the latter months of 1986. David and Catherine Birnie murdered 4 ladies and 1 survived. Victims: Mary Neilson, Susannah Candy, Noelene Patterson and Denise Brown — killed between October 11 and November 10, 1986. Thankfully Kate Moir survived.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...1f28cc7ed14e&usg=AOvVaw0ruRamMmeHzYulYNcDdNtc

20/8/1987 Sally Greenham ex Adelaide Terrace after alighting taxi. Had traveled from Geraldton (not in taxi), missing.
20/6/1988 Julie Cutler ex Parmelia Hilton hotel Perth after staff function. Car found in surf at Cottesloe 2 days later. Missing.
29/6/1991 Kerry Turner ex Victoria Park dropped of by taxi outside Cafe L'Affair (spelling ?), on way to Armadale. Witnessed getting into car which traveled east towards Midland. Had been to Pinocchio's Nightclub in Perth.
16/5/1992 Radina Djukich ex North Beach. (shockingly) had been handed to known pedophile through court system. Missing. Pedophile subsequently convicted of murder of woman in following year.
13/7/1992 Cariad Slater missing 67a Rosewood Ave Woodlands. Solved man charged and convicted; case going through appeal process. Located in yard he lived in and address where taxi had dropped her off at.
7/10/1993 Alex Turner brother of Kerry Turner (missing 23/6/1991) murdered in homophobic attack.
27/1/1996 Sarah Spiers ex Claremont; missing
9/6/1996 Jane Rimmer missing ex Claremont, murdered located Wellard 3/8/1996
15/1/1997 Sara-Lee Davey ex Broome, missing. Man charged with murder Richard Dorrough 2015.
15/3/1997 Ciara Glennon ex Claremont, missing. Located murdered Eglinton 3/4/1997
9/11/1998 Lisa Brown ex Northbridge (street worker). Missing.
28/4/1999 Petronella Albert ex Broome. Could Dorrough be responsible?
29/7/1999 Hayley Dodd ex Badgingarra missing. Wark and 'one other' alleged murderers; one other now deceased suicide.
8/10/1999 Lisa Govan ex Kalgoorlie missing. Wark may be involved.
25/1/1999 Deborah Anderson ex Woodvale. Located Midland area deceased in driver's seat of burnt vehicle.
8/11/2000 Sarah McMahon ex Claremont work place lived with parents Parkerville; missing. Morey believed responsible. Coroner's inquest outcome.
15/11/2001 Susan Christie ex Daglish, missing. Ex husband charged and convicted, successful technical-based appeal quashed sentence.
18/3/2002 Christine Schipp ex Middle Swan. Prostitute. missing, located 6/5/2003 (cemetery record)
25/3/2003 Darrylyn Ugle. Street worker ex Northbridge. Located at Farrell Grove Mundaring Weir, ligature used Morey believed responsible. Matching forensics too circumstantial.
1/6/2003 Judy M'ringu ex Africa, call girl missing ex Bentley.
3/5/2010 Iveta Mitchell missing ex residence Parmelia. Had worked at hotel near Mundaring.

There is another thread on websleuths that was setup by Petedavo called AUSTRALIA - Perth missing/murdered women.
It’s an excellent thread which discusses many of the cases in the list above, including those on the list thought to have been victims of The Birnie’s. It’s a very interesting read.


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[meticulously]

For those who have recently joined the forum. Below is a former post from Mo Joe which lists missing/murdered women of WA. Special thanks to JWSleuth, Sutton and Papertrail for compiling the information.

Please take particular note of the murders/abductions which occurred between 1986 to 1991. No one has been charged with those murders?

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ralia-3/page16

25/8/1969 Jean Climas ex Mosman Park missing. initially from Vic. May have taken on new identity.
22/9/1969 Anne Zapelli ex Geraldton although from Morowa. policeman boyfriend. missing walking home from drive-in theatre. SA pedophile in area at time death bed confession.
9/12/1975 Glenyce McGowan ex Nunaturra camping ground traveling to Darwin ex Parmelia.
28/12/1979 Kerryn Tate missing found at Boulder Rock. Found deceased by fire (?) May be occult connection as she had connection to group.
21/3/1980 Sophie Woodman (traveling last known in Vic with young girlfriend who left and went to Qld, Sophie's homebase WA)
13/9/1980 Annette Deverell ex Mandurah outside post office last seen talking to man in yellow panelvan; headless corpse located 7/7/1982 Waroona Dam.
30/10/1980 Lisa Mott ex Collie missing; last seen talking to man in yellow panel van. Birnie known to have been in Collie at time.
18/3/1986 Sharon Fulton ex East Perth Railway Station missing dropped off by husband. Maybe domestic involvement.
26/5/1986 Cheryl Renwick ex South Perth worked at psych hostel Northbridge. Could man named Masters be responsible?
27/8/1986 Barbara Western ex Vic Park, located 19/3/1991 (cemetery record) Spectacles (south of Perth). Headless torso in roadside ditch
6/10/1986 - 10/11/1986 5 x Birnie abductions; 4 murders 1 survivor.

Note: The Birnies were active during the latter months of 1986. David and Catherine Birnie murdered 4 ladies and 1 survived. Victims: Mary Neilson, Susannah Candy, Noelene Patterson and Denise Brown — killed between October 11 and November 10, 1986. Thankfully Kate Moir survived.

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&r...1f28cc7ed14e&usg=AOvVaw0ruRamMmeHzYulYNcDdNtc

20/8/1987 Sally Greenham ex Adelaide Terrace after alighting taxi. Had traveled from Geraldton (not in taxi), missing.
20/6/1988 Julie Cutler ex Parmelia Hilton hotel Perth after staff function. Car found in surf at Cottesloe 2 days later. Missing.
29/6/1991 Kerry Turner ex Victoria Park dropped of by taxi outside Cafe L'Affair (spelling ?), on way to Armadale. Witnessed getting into car which traveled east towards Midland. Had been to Pinocchio's Nightclub in Perth.
16/5/1992 Radina Djukich ex North Beach. (shockingly) had been handed to known pedophile through court system. Missing. Pedophile subsequently convicted of murder of woman in following year.
13/7/1992 Cariad Slater missing 67a Rosewood Ave Woodlands. Solved man charged and convicted; case going through appeal process. Located in yard he lived in and address where taxi had dropped her off at.
7/10/1993 Alex Turner brother of Kerry Turner (missing 23/6/1991) murdered in homophobic attack.
27/1/1996 Sarah Spiers ex Claremont; missing
9/6/1996 Jane Rimmer missing ex Claremont, murdered located Wellard 3/8/1996
15/1/1997 Sara-Lee Davey ex Broome, missing. Man charged with murder Richard Dorrough 2015.
15/3/1997 Ciara Glennon ex Claremont, missing. Located murdered Eglinton 3/4/1997
9/11/1998 Lisa Brown ex Northbridge (street worker). Missing.
28/4/1999 Petronella Albert ex Broome. Could Dorrough be responsible?
29/7/1999 Hayley Dodd ex Badgingarra missing. Wark and 'one other' alleged murderers; one other now deceased suicide.
8/10/1999 Lisa Govan ex Kalgoorlie missing. Wark may be involved.
25/1/1999 Deborah Anderson ex Woodvale. Located Midland area deceased in driver's seat of burnt vehicle.
8/11/2000 Sarah McMahon ex Claremont work place lived with parents Parkerville; missing. Morey believed responsible. Coroner's inquest outcome.
15/11/2001 Susan Christie ex Daglish, missing. Ex husband charged and convicted, successful technical-based appeal quashed sentence.
18/3/2002 Christine Schipp ex Middle Swan. Prostitute. missing, located 6/5/2003 (cemetery record)
25/3/2003 Darrylyn Ugle. Street worker ex Northbridge. Located at Farrell Grove Mundaring Weir, ligature used Morey believed responsible. Matching forensics too circumstantial.
1/6/2003 Judy M'ringu ex Africa, call girl missing ex Bentley.
3/5/2010 Iveta Mitchell missing ex residence Parmelia. Had worked at hotel near Mundaring.

CV,
What thread and post number is this post please ?
Would like to see the original.
I should point out that there are some inaccuracies in there regarding the "headless" victims imo .
Some of the cases are solved too .
Thanks in advance

 

[Canning Vale]

Metic,

I cannot supply a post no. because the software isn't showing it.

The post was uploaded by Mo Joe on 12-17-2016 at 5:28pm

It starts with...... A good list compiled by Sutton

CV,
What thread and post number is this post please ?
Would like to see the original.
I should point out that there are some inaccuracies in there regarding the "headless" victims imo .
Some of the cases are solved too .
Thanks in advance

 

[petedavo.au]

There is another thread on websleuths that was setup by Petedavo called AUSTRALIA - Perth missing/murdered women.
It’s an excellent thread which discusses many of the cases in the list above, including those on the list thought to have been victims of The Birnie’s. It’s a very interesting read.


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https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=327387

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[meticulously]

Metic,

I cannot supply a post no. because the software isn't showing it.

The post was uploaded by Mo Joe on 12-17-2016 at 5:28pm

It starts with...... A good list compiled by Sutton

Thread number possible?

 

[DRT]

Metic,

I cannot supply a post no. because the software isn't showing it.

The post was uploaded by Mo Joe on 12-17-2016 at 5:28pm

It starts with...... A good list compiled by Sutton

There may be a button called view full site. Possibly at the bottom in the centre.

 

[meticulously]

Metic,

I cannot supply a post no. because the software isn't showing it.

The post was uploaded by Mo Joe on 12-17-2016 at 5:28pm

It starts with...... A good list compiled by Sutton

CV, That list was updated post arrest by someone who repaired it .
God knows where the headless story came from ??

 

[meticulously]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12431582

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12427992

Telstra suspect mention
#1070 March 23 , 2016

 

[meticulously]

Metic,

I cannot supply a post no. because the software isn't showing it.

The post was uploaded by Mo Joe on 12-17-2016 at 5:28pm

It starts with...... A good list compiled by Sutton

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13008486

Found it CV on thread #7

 

[Canning Vale]

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[meticulously]

The screen has gone back to black and grey now.

Oh that's wonderful CV ,
hope you enjoy it

 

[Spooks-R-Us]

The screen has gone back to black and grey now.

Is your internet service slowing and therefore is the WS website reverting to a simpler format to match the speed of your internet?


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[DRT]

CV, That list was updated post arrest by someone who repaired it .
God knows where the headless story came from ??

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...g-murdered-SK-victims&p=13081487#post13081487

Original post from Elastic had

PAULINE WALTER- Unknown suspects (Headless body found in a ditch in Forrestdale)
To confirm this from Library Sources:
From West Australian 3 January 2015 Article West AUSTRALIANS WHO WERE MURDERED OR SUSPECTED OF BEING MURDERED IN THE PAST 40 YEARS"Pauline Walter 22

Murdered: On or about June 1980

Last seen alive at a backpacker hostel in Perth. Six years later, her headless body was found in a Forrestdale ditch. "

The body of Barbara Western was found in Karragullen in 1990.

 

[Xyz]

If the case isn’t delayed again this week... I’m curious about how it works- will the case run continuously on consecutive days (weeks, months) until a judgement is reached? Or is it more a stop, start process?

 

[meticulously]

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...g-murdered-SK-victims&p=13081487#post13081487

Original post from Elastic had

PAULINE WALTER- Unknown suspects (Headless body found in a ditch in Forrestdale)
To confirm this from Library Sources:
From West Australian 3 January 2015 Article West AUSTRALIANS WHO WERE MURDERED OR SUSPECTED OF BEING MURDERED IN THE PAST 40 YEARS"Pauline Walter 22

Murdered: On or about June 1980

Last seen alive at a backpacker hostel in Perth. Six years later, her headless body was found in a Forrestdale ditch. "

The body of Barbara Western was found in Karragullen in 1990.

Thanks DRT , thats very horrific,
Great post though .
How about A.deverall and B.western ?
Is there any reports to back up the headless reports ?
When i searched for information there was none about the 2 victims beheadings mentioned here . The information i found never mentioned that. JmO

"The second newly-named potential victim, Barbara Western, was last seen leaving a Perth tavern on June 27, 1986.
Her remains were later found, with the killer having removed her jewellery and other items and placed them beside the body.
This was one of the Birnies' trademarks."

https://www.smh.com.au/entertainmen...vid-and-catherine-birnie-20170208-gu8o1o.html

 

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ANNETTE DEVERELL, 19

"Annette Deverell was last seen heading to Mandurah to buy cigarettes on September 13, 1980.

Two years later, her burnt, skeletal remains were found in bush at Pinjarra. A shotgun was found nearby and a post mortem examination revealed her skull had been fractured."


PAULINE WALTER, 22

"Pauline Walter was last seen at a Perth backpacker hostel in June 1980.
Her headless body was found in a Forrestdale ditch six years later."



http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...s/news-story/0c2ef54e364745c7c0582b4e60685a91


Deverall not headless , and Western not headless in that news link .

Edit : in the comments section in the link below theres mention of remains being scattered etc . I presume this is a similar theme to the headless report / same origins perhaps..
http://missingandmurderedaustralia.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/annette-deverall-murder.html?m=1

 

[no name]

Why was telephone cable initially reported but then changed to clothesline in later reports ?

Pondered this often also Met. Immediately after the arrest I thought red herring, they had him in their sights much earlier than claimed or if the familial testing info was accurate, had narrowed it down at least & wanted to create some distance between his obvious link to Telstra. Might also explain the timing of the release of info if it turns the relationship broke down prior to 2016 too.
One alternative thought was exactly as posted recently in regard to the photography interest. Perhaps it was washing line used to hang photos developed at home and the ink was tied to that. If so, another partial red herring. They could tell the difference surely between screen printing ink so a sly warning that they're getting closer without making anyone think they're too close perhaps.
Of course the early reports may have been wrong which they'd have known all along. But seeing they got the perps description removed in later reports to the point where media were saying she didnt see him at all when we know she saw enough to give height, hair colour & build, its fair to say they weren't concerned what the public believed the facts to be anyway. Further proven by the departure from the intermediary site claims most recently, if thats even true at all.
Whatever happens when its all said and done, theres going to be plenty of questions raised through the threads over the years that will still be unanswered either way IMO.

 

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[no name]

Anyone know exactly when the fibres were rediscovered? Has it been said?