Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996 - 1997, Perth, Western Australia - #6

[crabstick]

So police wont release aspects of this crime and other crimes to ensure they get their man. That they can be sure they don't get fakers.

So, who is the source of these accusations? And why do police have to correct media of these accusations?

A major investigation such as this cannot be an ‘open book’, and operational outcomes must be prioritised over media interest.

“Maintaining the operational integrity of this investigation is paramount if we are to bring the offender, or offenders, to justice. It is WA Police policy not to comment about the Macro investigation. However on this occasion police would like to correct reports that number plates captured on video in Claremont on March 14, 1997, were not checked - that is inaccurate.
https://www.police.wa.gov.au/Media-Centre/Our-Say/Macro-Investigation

 

[crabstick]

Ciara was last seen walking west near Christ Church. So on this occasion she was well away

 

[crabstick]

So when the 'SECRET' camera went in, the perpetrator didnt go near it in Bayview Tce

 

[Mo Joe]

So when the 'SECRET' camera went in, the perpetrator didnt go near it in Bayview Tce

Maybe they heard about it or witnessed its installation?

 

[crabstick]

Significant drug operations stymied in Claremont driven by Weygers, when the trouble started. Investigating officers stepped aside over cocaine usage.

Jenny Rimmer worked at the Shenton Hotel, another watering hole. What is this guy, a beer salesman? Hotel security? Multiple hospitality venues.

 

[crabstick]

So much for it being a secret camera on Bayview tce then. Just wondering how they would find out. A pointless exercise if it is common knowledge of the area. MM doesnt appear face the camera in the Jane video. If anyone has a picture of Janes Mystery Man facing the camera, that would be great.

So our mystery man knew of one camera, and potentially secret others.

Maybe they heard about it or witnessed its installation?

 

[Bartholemeus]

So police wont release aspects of this crime and other crimes to ensure they get their man. That they can be sure they don't get fakers.

There's 3 reasons why they do this;

1. So they can use unreleased evidence to vet suspects

2. So they can use unreleased evidence to trap suspects in an interrogation.

3. So if a piece of evidence is counter-evidence they are able to keep it hidden in any court proceedings to increase chance of conviction.

And why do police have to correct media of these accusations?

Because the police force doesn't like anyone accusing them of incompetence, misconduct or corruption (deserved or not). This is nothing to do with the case and all about defending their reputation

And despite their stance that they don't comment they pick and choose when to comment and when to release and/or link info to the media.

 

[Bartholemeus]

Ciara was last seen walking west near Christ Church. So on this occasion she was well away

The actual Church as opposed to the school (afaik). Your marker is slightly off.

 

[MyLeftFoot]

There's 3 reasons why they do this;

1. So they can use unreleased evidence to vet suspects

2. So they can use unreleased evidence to trap suspects in an interrogation.

3. So if a piece of evidence is counter-evidence they are able to keep it hidden in any court proceedings to increase chance of conviction.

Because the police force doesn't like anyone accusing them of incompetence, misconduct or corruption (deserved or not). This is nothing to do with the case and all about defending their reputation

And despite their stance that they don't comment they pick and choose when to comment and when to release and/or link info to the media.

Spot on!

 

[crabstick]

Interestingly enough Stirling road is the one of few cross over points of the railway line. A quick exit from the main arterial drag of Stirling highway maybe. A cowardly escape through the tunnel!!!!

 

[Mo Joe]

I am dismayed that none of you have commented on the man JR? is dancing closely with / kissing (?) in the video I linked?

 

[meticulously]

Mojoe unfortunately unless you are with Facebook you cannot watch it . & the link was just too tricky to negotiate sorry about missing this , so whats the chance of it being a clue what are you angling at ?

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[billywhizz]

I am dismayed that none of you have commented on the man JR? is dancing closely with / kissing (?) in the video I linked?

All the lights are on in the vid, it's well lit.

It's not a night club or hotel, and probably not the night in question. It's obviously a family video of JR, maybe at a wedding or a birthday.

Not a clue.

 

[billywhizz]

The Mosman Park rapist doesn't seem to be on Crimestoppers website under the sex offences section. Does this mean they are no longer seeking information regarding his identity?

 

[meticulously]

He left dna & le has been seeking his identity maybe they have him but haven't released info . It seems like the cops will be chipping away at the eventual goal of finding which green bottle is still standing on the wall

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[crabstick]

Sometimes websites are not accurate for a number of reasons. I don't think have any compliance obligations, but that is a bloody good point Billywhizz

I just don't understand how they can have an identikit, and not find a car or no one has come up with the ID of this POI?

Is he in prison on anther matter maybe? The description sounds like a gardener, or tradie, but the car doesn't indicate tradie. Hospital gardener? Lawnmower contractor? That car hasnt enough grunt for tradies gear.

Judging by the tan, he appears an outside worker. How hard would it be to run a query on that model KIA off the reg database and work back? Notably the rims are black, which is a distinguishing feature. Given the identity, Id be hunting come hell or high water on that identi-kit with the car. How does a car vanish? There simply wouldn't be that many, that model and similar colours at the time. Give me the database and I will find that car.

Police hold a bunch of florist Lily. Did he knock them off from a bucket out front a shop? How did he know the au pair was there? His gaunt face suggests he could be a druggie.

Being a rape, police should have DNA. His age matches our culprit.

The Mosman Park rapist doesn't seem to be on Crimestoppers website under the sex offences section. Does this mean they are no longer seeking information regarding his identity?

 

[silver tongue]

Who's next poi on the list to try ? Im happy to try its fun even

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gday meticulously
could you please try robin dyers mug, hes the murdoch soccer rapist ,intresting time of his arrival from south africa "1996" he played soccer for freo and also represented wa

 

[meticulously]

pw & sr still to check . Papertrails article

Heres an old article (cleaned up to read ) Im using filters to adjust poor quality & can do to more if anyone asks [emoji89] [emoji4]

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[meticulously]

Are there any you have that I don't have? I checked my info and BC is saying 1991 for the Lakeway Drive-in attack.



Sexual Assault Timeline

June 20 1988 - Julie Cutler - Julie left work from the Parmelia Hilton in the city at around midnight. Days later her car washed up on Cottesloe Beach.

1989 + 1990 - Kings Park Rapes - Unsolved violent rapes. UK national and Doubleview delivery driver Paul Clare is a suspect. Currently banged up in England for rape. In 1992 Clare was found guilty of burglary - he was found in a woman's home in a cupboard with a rape kit. In 1993 he was also convicted of a sex-related bomb hoax. His victim in England had left a nightclub. Allegedly ruled out and doesn't have a history of killing.

1991 - Cottesloe Hotel/Lakeway Drive-in - It's unclear precisely when this happened but Bret Christian suggests 5 years before Sarah Spiers which makes it 1991. A teenage girl was asleep in a car in the car park opposite the hotel because she had too much to drink. Her attacker moved her from that car into his own car, drove her to Lakeway Drive-in and tried to rape her. She escaped and then he stalked her to try and re-abduct her.

1992 - Swanbourne Train Station - At some stage in 1992 two girls were raped on the way home from the Claremont nightlife district. It's unclear what date it was and whether the attack happened at the same time or on the same night

January 1 1994 - Stirling Rd Subway - in the early hours of New Years Day and man pulled a girl out of her car at a set of traffic lights and tried to rape her.

October 1994 - Princess Rd - A 31 year old woman broke her ankle jumping from a moving taxi after a guy appeared from the back seat and tried to restrain her.

February 1995 - Rowe Park/Karra - A 17 year old girl was blitz attacked as she walked past Rowe Park on the way home from Club Bay View. She was hooded, bounded, forced into a vehicle and taken to Karrakatta Cemetery where she was raped before being left.

(circa) March 1995 - Rowe Park - Weeks after the Karrakatta attack a man was witnessed masturbating in Rowe Park.

1995 - Lake Claremont Golf Course - Sometime in 1995 a young woman got into a taxi in Claremont and the driver drove her to the other side of the railway line to the golf course. Forcibly stripped of her clothes, she managed to escape, banging on the door of a nearby house and screaming for the couple who lived there to let her in.

January 26 1996 - CSK SS - Sarah Spiers goes missing from cnr Stirling Hwy and Stirling Rd.

June 9 1996 - CSK JR - Jane Rimmer is last seen outside The Continental Hotel just past midnight.

March 1996 - Church Lane - 21 year old girl had head bashed against wall, skirt ripped off and indecently assaulted.

March 14 1997 - CSK CG - Ciara Glennon last seen walking West on Stirling Hwy near Christ Church.

Thanks bart ,thats what I wanted . one things about lakeway / cott abduction msn reported that's "89 not "91 , & you have 5 years before the first known csk attack , it quotes 1989 too , it fits , how about that ? Also 1994 the car park Claremont - help find the keys abduction attempt , a possible throw away, same like the freak masturbating in rowe park is perhaps unrelated seeing there was a mental hospital close by , can lawrence murder & any other related local crimes tack on ? We have kings park poi p.clare too , so he was in the area ?

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[meticulously]

Has the red hot chili tshirt been linked to myers ? Interesting choice of tshirt theme ...

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