Found Deceased Australia - Karen Chetcuti, 49, Whorouly, Vic, 12 Jan 2016 *Arrest*

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It would go without saying (imo) that the accused is impotent / sexually dysfunctional

All the signs

and the rage that goes with it

a slight perusal of his conviction for rape back in 2007, for which he received 9 years and was allowed out on early release parole would tend to confirm your conclusion, Laser.

Do not read if you are already feeling a bit queasy ( warning ) ..

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/s...tem=0&synonyms=0&query=rape Michael Cardamone
 
So are they saying that these items had NO DNA or DNA that didn't match Cardamone?

that the DNA didn't match Cardamone's, Humdinger.. .

I think what Mr Tehan and Cardamone will assert is, that if that DNA that probably WAS there on items , at the burning of the car location, they probably belong to his willing assistant , Mr George, and therefore, it is possible that this Mr George is the murderer, the body burner, the injector of horse crank, the injector of battery fluid into people's bodies, and not the totally uninvolved Mr Cardamone.. ..

like hell it was.
 
http://www.bordermail.com.au/story/4519498/accused-shifts-blame-for-murder/?cs=53

as expected,

'The man accused of murdering Karen Chetcuti Verbunt has pleaded not guilty to the violent crime, instead pointing the finger at an acquaintance police say helped him destroy the Whorouly woman’s car.'

well.. that is Cardamone money that is saying this, then it's money well and truly gone, and that's a good thing. Nice little earner for Mr Tehan.
 
from the Border Mail article..

'TALK OF DEATH

Farm worker Larn Douangphosay had been living with Cardamone for a week when Ms Chetcuti Verbunt went missing.

He told the court Cardamone’s mother had come looking for him about 9.30pm on January 12, the time other witnesses said they saw a car come back to the property.

The next day, Mr Douangphosay noticed Cardamone had cleaned the car.

“He said something like ‘if that lady happened to be dead around here, she’d be rotten by now because it’s a hot day’,” he said.

He said Cardamone also told him he had served jail time alongside Jill Meagher’s murderer and if it was not for his mother, he would kill again to go back into custody.

and it seems Mum Cardamone was not away, but at the property that night....... what kind of family is this??
 
from the Border Mail article..

'TALK OF DEATH

Farm worker Larn Douangphosay had been living with Cardamone for a week when Ms Chetcuti Verbunt went missing.

He told the court Cardamone’s mother had come looking for him about 9.30pm on January 12, the time other witnesses said they saw a car come back to the property.

The next day, Mr Douangphosay noticed Cardamone had cleaned the car.

“He said something like ‘if that lady happened to be dead around here, she’d be rotten by now because it’s a hot day’,” he said.

He said Cardamone also told him he had served jail time alongside Jill Meagher’s murderer and if it was not for his mother, he would kill again to go back into custody.

and it seems Mum Cardamone was not away, but at the property that night....... what kind of family is this??

Think the worst - that's the kind of family they are... well by all accounts not so much the father - but mummy dearest... crooked [emoji849] IMO

And look at that, he wanted to go back!! But what did that mean 'kill again'?
 
Think the worst - that's the kind of family they are... well by all accounts not so much the father - but mummy dearest... crooked [emoji849] IMO

And look at that, he wanted to go back!! But what did that mean 'kill again'?

00oooo .. humdinger!!.. I missed that.!.. yes, indeed... what DID that mean. .. as far as is known, Karen was his first kill.. but maybe. probably not...
 
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...ints-finger-at-associate-20170309-guugu7.html


March 9 2017 - 4:09PM

Karen Chetcuti Verbunt murder: Accused points finger at associate
by Shana Morgan

It has now been revealed Cardamone told police Mr George was responsible for the murder.
When police walked into the garage at Cardamone's Whorouly home in the days following the crime, they found blood stains smeared on foam boxes and a rolled up blind. But who that blood belonged to has not been revealed to the court.

Police examined the accused man's house, shed and cars – as well as the victim's home – and seized a stained cloth, syringe and white powder from one of Cardamone's cars...
 
FYI
Wangaratta Chronicle‏ @wangchronicle 1h1 hour ago

MAGISTRATE says it is clear from evidence that a jury could convict Michael Cardamone of Karen Chetcuti's murder. http://wp.me/p3fua0-6UM

Magistrate John Murphy yesterday afternoon told a packed Wangaratta court that it was clear to him from evidence presented in a two-day committal hearing that a jury could convict Cardamone, 49, for the January 2016 murder of the 49-year-old mother of two ...
 
We've talked about 'enablers' and 'partners in crime' of family who deny a son's character. Given his character and past crimes - of course he would attempt to 'blame' someone else! Now he is attempting to place 'blame' on his associate. However, the police investigation established evidence that his associate was not in Whorouly at the time this abduction/torture/murder took place. Further, his housemate Lam Douangphosay gave evidence that Cardamone had cleaned the floor of his garage and washed his car. He also talked of death of a woman...

Source: Nine News Melbourne‏Verified account @9NewsMelb 16h16 hours ago
The man accused of torturing Karen Chetcuti-Verbunt to death, will stand trial after pleading not guilty to her savage murder. #9News. [Visit 9news.com.au for this video]
 
IMO sounds like Cardamone's shed/garage was his 'lair' i.e. the place where he tortured his victim.

Source: Nine News Melbourne‏Verified account @9NewsMelb 16h16 hours ago
The man accused of torturing Karen Chetcuti-Verbunt to death, will stand trial after pleading not guilty to her savage murder. #9News. [Visit 9news.com.au for this video]

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ka...09-guugu7.html
March 9 2017 - 4:09PM

When police walked into the garage at Cardamone's Whorouly home in the days following the crime, they found blood stains smeared on foam boxes and a rolled up blind. But who that blood belonged to has not been revealed to the court.

Police examined the accused man's house, shed and cars – as well as the victim's home – and seized a stained cloth, syringe and white powder from one of Cardamone's cars...
 
Thank you for the updates, Fuskier. Not much in the online news any more. We'll have to wait now to learn the trial date

So much for the accused's claims of wanting to go back inside to be with his pervert mates. Here's his chance. All he need do in order to be returned to prison is make a full confession. In addition to sending him on holiday, it would save Karen's family and friends, also a jury, from having to endure the ghastly evidence. It would save the public a fortune in trial costs. And not that I care, but it would relieve his own family of the burden of his legal representation

But what's this -- he's fighting tooth and nail now for his liberty? He doesn't want to be returned to the bosom of his jail mates? He's desperately trying to blame someone else? The ridiculous story about being kidnapped by Lebanese wasn't bad enough?

I find myself hoping he's involved with the Mob. Their futures could be impacted by his big mouth and gutless failure to keep it buttoned. Maybe his underworld scum business-associates will do the public-purse a favour by buttoning his lip permanently. If so, nice touch would be a bushland burning. Doubt too many tears would be shed
 
Last night I found myself watching a show about Living Dolls and the men who engage in what's described as that 'fetish'. Never heard of it before, although I'd seen the occasional mention of men whose chosen partners are life-size (lately, child size) sex dolls

The Living Doll fetish also called 'Dolling', involves the wearing of full-body, latex women's bodies, complete with fully-jiggle-able breasts and anatomically correct vaginas. Anuses can be installed for those wishing them. And the latex suits come complete with built-in pouch in which to store the male users' genitals. A catheter can also be customized into the woman-suit in order the male wearer can experience peeing as a woman

The Living Doll fetishists wear ‘doll faces’ with exaggerated mouths and eyes. On top go wigs and women’s clothing. Most of us wouldn’t be seen dead looking like the finished product. I’m not sure, but I think the aim might be to look like those blow-up sex dolls or possibly, one-cent hookers. Says a lot about how some men regard real women

One of the Living Dolls was a man in his 70s. You need to watch it. When his daughter’s away, the elderly man struggles into his Living Doll suit amidst tons of talcum powder. The Living Doll has padded arms and legs, bit of cellulite, womanly hips and of course, jiggly breasts. He completes his transformation with a long blonde wig and gold bikini. Then he sets up his tripod and camera and photographs himself. His excitement is obvious. He says at his age, the women he dates are in their 50s and 60s and pale in comparison to himself in the doll suit. He removes his bikini top and swims around in his pool, fondling his fake breasts. Says he doesn’t need women when he ‘is’ or ‘has’ his living doll

The Living Doll fetishists attend conferences. Has to be seen to be believed. I’m not sure at this point if they slip into their chosen female persona as women complete with ‘women’s voices’, or if only some of them do. Those who spoke to camera say they’re ordinary, heterosexual males – many with children and wives. Videos I watched on Youtube reveal that some are their ‘own woman’. In other words, being a woman satisfies their need for a relationship with a woman. I think one said he enjoyed the control of both being and having a woman via his doll persona

Wonder if Australian prison psychologists and administrators are familiar with the Living Doll/Dolling phenomenon and if so, can they, like me, see it as an answer to the misogyny that permeates the epidemic of violence and murder being perpetrated on Aussie women?

Roughly defined, misogyny is hatred of women. I’d go further and describe it as jealousy and envy of women. Almost all the Living Doll/Dolling fetishists said they did it for attention. They enjoy the attention it brings them. They don’t get that sort of attention in their everyday lives, apparently. Of course it’s a lot more complex than that – their choosing to look like transvestite hookers/blow up sex dolls being just one element. Receiving the attention normally relegated to trashy looking women definitely answers some of their needs however. And Germany, generally regarded as an authoritarian society, is the largest consumer of Living Doll latex suits, apparently

Maybe if Karen’s violent, sadistic, woman-hating, women-envying killer (and those like him) were allowed to parade around in Living Doll suits, it would alleviate their jealousy of women and girls and women would be safe in their homes and on the streets? I think it’s something that needs to be explored. The Living Doll suits plus wigs, heels and a few tramp-outfits would be achievable for under $4000. A lot cheaper than prison, policing, psychologists and courts

The female is the default mode for ALL embryos initially. Then hormonal washes modify 49% of them, at which point they branch off to become male. Maybe the modification is only skin-deep with some? Maybe they retain some deep memory of being female and subconsciously resent the fact that they ended up ‘male’ while their sisters did not – the end result being barely suppressed hatred/jealousy of biological females?

The establishment is still in denial, basically, that all embryos commence as female, despite the science. The media rarely mentions it and most men (and some women) froth with rage when the matter is raised. No wonder then that society chooses to blame misogyny on women, women’s behavior, failed relationships, ‘stress’, ‘propensity to violence’ and a raft of other causes. Rarely do you find psychiatrists admitting that misogyny has its roots in envy and jealousy. And misogynists/women haters themselves will find a 100 excuses to explain why they’re filled with pathological hatred of women and just looking for an excuse to vent it

I think violent offenders against women of all ages should be provided the opportunity to dress as the trash caricatures of women they seem to prefer. They should be provided safe-rooms where they can stagger around on five inch heels with their redder than red wigs and fake breasts and giggle and hug as they did in the Living Dolls show. It may well save hundreds of women from misogynists’ violence and murderous fantasies
 
The Living Dolls show is on Netflix and excerpts from it, along with videos of the fetish, can be found on YouTube also Google, for those interested
 
[video=youtube;2bmvgNFl1vw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmvgNFl1vw[/video]

[video=youtube;plqF9UbYg2s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plqF9UbYg2s[/video]

If links allowed, they will give you some idea of what's involved
 
So all this emphasis on a healthy relationship in regards to parole etc. If he had a partner to move in with and a home etc how would that've looked? Is this part of why he got parole?
 
So all this emphasis on a healthy relationship in regards to parole etc. If he had a partner to move in with and a home etc how would that've looked? Is this part of why he got parole?


Healthy relationship including five year old female child which he apparently found to be irresistibly photogenic when naked, according to what I've read

(edit: I'll go back to mowing and hedge trimming now)
 
The Living Dolls show is on Netflix and excerpts from it, along with videos of the fetish, can be found on YouTube also Google, for those interested

I intend to watch the program, Las... but I have to have a few stiff Dry Martini's first!...
 
So all this emphasis on a healthy relationship in regards to parole etc. If he had a partner to move in with and a home etc how would that've looked? Is this part of why he got parole?


from following the logic of Dr's Robson and Watson-Whatever, I gathered that the idea was if Mumma was providing the house, and the car, and the job, then naturally, a woman would find Micheal attractive and voila! The Cure. For what ails him. Which is congenital psychotic violent fixated delusions of grandeur.

Apparently, that's what women do.
 
from following the logic of Dr's Robson and Watson-Whatever, I gathered that the idea was if Mumma was providing the house, and the car, and the job, then naturally, a woman would find Micheal attractive and voila! The Cure. For what ails him. Which is congenital psychotic violent fixated delusions of grandeur.

Apparently, that's what women do.

Whilst he was in jail he met his then partner, she was there visiting her brother apparently and met him. So she may have been part of Mummy dearests plan to get her boy home... Give the son and his girlfriend a home and how good does that look for the parole board...
 
Last night I found myself watching a show about Living Dolls and the men who engage in what's described as that 'fetish'. Never heard of it before, although I'd seen the occasional mention of men whose chosen partners are life-size (lately, child size) sex dolls

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Roughly defined, misogyny is hatred of women. I&#8217;d go further and describe it as jealousy and envy of women...
Maybe if Karen&#8217;s violent, sadistic, woman-hating, women-envying killer ...

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The establishment is still in denial, basically, that all embryos commence as female, despite the science. The media rarely mentions it and most men (and some women) froth with rage when the matter is raised. No wonder then that society chooses to blame misogyny on women, women&#8217;s behavior, failed relationships, &#8216;stress&#8217;, &#8216;propensity to violence&#8217; and a raft of other causes. Rarely do you find psychiatrists admitting that misogyny has its roots in envy and jealousy. And misogynists/women haters themselves will find a 100 excuses to explain why they&#8217;re filled with pathological hatred of women and just looking for an excuse to vent it

I think violent offenders against women of all ages should be provided the opportunity to dress as the trash caricatures of women they seem to prefer. They should be provided safe-rooms where they can stagger around on five inch heels with their redder than red wigs and fake breasts and giggle and hug as they did in the Living Dolls show. It may well save hundreds of women from misogynists&#8217; violence and murderous fantasies

Laserdisc10 - misogny does appear to have its roots in envy and jealousy. Many of us underestimate 'envy' yet it is such a pernicious destroyer of good. Hypothetically, its possible that he could have tried to torture, murder and destroy the 'woman' lurking inside of him. E.g. with the Denyer murderer of several young women, the 'woman lurking inside of him' eventually emerged in prison. We'll never know what motivated him without a skilled assessment by a psychiatrist/clinical psychologist/forensic psychologist who has specialised in the sadistic psychosexual pathologies.
My opinion only.
 

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