Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #11

[sosocurious]

No, I haven't seen any wet tears either. Not in any pics that I've seen. A couple of articles I looked at again recently described her as 'sobbing'. Still no wet tears. I also note that she doesn't seem to look at anyone directly. Not just the media. Anyone.

May be a quirk. May be something else. :dunno:
But it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

http://www.news.com.au/national/vic...s/news-story/2bbe3c1ab602e2e9948986048d337aad
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...i/news-story/a8030e9169fc34f67427de02891661b0

 

[CalliopeGG]

H'mm, I have become fascinated by this image, oh boy, that driver is seriously looking like BR ..... MOO ..... but that image of a possible passenger low down in seat, completly interesting, must investigate further [emoji848]

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Ah the stormtrooper is back. [emoji23]. I love looking at these photos too and the CCTV footage I've watched and watched. I keep dreaming I might be the one to have a breakthrough, although I realise the police probably already know and have better footage (of the journey back and the time I hope).

 

[BReVeTTe]

H'mm, I have become fascinated by this image, oh boy, that driver is seriously looking like BR ..... MOO ..... but that image of a possible passenger low down in seat, completly interesting, must investigate further [emoji848]

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itsapuzzle, don't place too much emphasis on the edit.
i need to point out that i'm no editing genius - the edit was done purely out of curiosity with no mischievous intention - but the end result of that is what you see, and well, hmm.

i'd like to point out further, i'v noticed that what is seen in the end results of my edits can vary significantly from frame to frame, so i really don't know what to make of it myself
[emoji848][emoji15][emoji848] ...interesting though.

in some pics of KR's particular vehicle model on this thread, we were shown some examples which depict there clearly is NO backseat, NOR any room whatsoever behind the front seat ... (which, as i recall, also dashed your own observation of a figure in the back seat)
although, i recall seeing a pic, somewhere on thread, which DID actually show a useable space in the rear (albeit quite confined) when the front seats were shunted forwards, as a short driver might be required to do (?)
i have also wondered whether the barrier which separates the boot itself is able to be removed (as in some hatchbacks?) IFso, this may have afforded a little more rear space to utilize.
apologies, i know zero about cars.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...k=3dde0110a6f4198eece6b1c46c08b958-1497762528
[emoji887]

 

[CalliopeGG]

itsapuzzle, don't place too much emphasis on the edit.
i need to point out that i'm no editing genius - the edit was done purely out of curiosity with no mischievous intention - but the end result of that is what you see, and well, hmm.

i'd like to point out further, i'v noticed that what is seen in the end results of my edits can vary significantly from frame to frame, so i really don't know what to make of it myself
[emoji848][emoji15][emoji848] ...interesting though.

in some pics of KR's particular vehicle model on this thread, we were shown some examples which depict there clearly is NO backseat, NOR any room whatsoever behind the front seat ... (which, as i recall, also dashed your own observation of a figure in the back seat)
although, i recall seeing a pic, somewhere on thread, which DID actually show a useable space in the rear (albeit quite confined) when the front seats were shunted forwards, as a short driver might be required to do (?)
i have also wondered whether the barrier which separates the boot itself is able to be removed (as in some hatchbacks?) IFso, this may have afforded a little more rear space to utilize.
apologies, i know zero about cars.


[emoji887]

I can't see the person in the front at all. I think it's really interesting. It's like the Rorschach inkblot test!

 

[Armchair snoop]

I do not see how this screams of incompetence, it is all part of the investigative process imo. It has been stated by LE that they have already received useful information after this LE press conference. I also do not think R family have done anything to mislead or confuse the public, they have only confused themselves. I will say again that the family's behavior has been nothing short of bizarre and no excuse of misguided loyalty to paternal or maternal influences will change that. This does not seem to be the reaction of a close knit loving family and extended family .

I agree and to me this family makes the Simpsons look normal. To say their behaviour has been bizarre is an understatement.

 

[SouthAussie]

i have also wondered whether the barrier which separates the boot itself is able to be removed (as in some hatchbacks?) IFso, this may have afforded a little more rear space to utilize.
apologies, i know zero about cars.

RSBM

Recently I read parts of the Owner's Manual and some forums about that rear shelf/folding convertible roof/boot, as that blackness I see between the seats in the front-on CCTV of the car still irks me.

It is very complex to remove the rear shelf. Much, much more than the average joe could ever handle. Mercedes recommend that it isn't done by anyone else but them, as the corners of the rear window are molded into that shelf.

There are also rear speakers molded into the space/panel behind the passenger seat.

Everyone (on forums) says not to try to remove anything, as the piece behind the seats is attached to the side panels. You can't even get the speaker covers off as they, too, are molded into the panel behind the seats.

A shorter person on a forum said their seat is always pulled forward, and it leaves a small wedge-shaped space between the seat and the panel behind the seat.

To get into the compartment where the roof folds in (under the shelf) you need to remove the boot compartment (not easy) and go in through that way.

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/DigitalAssets/pdfmb/ownersmanual/2004_slk230_slk320_slk32amg.pdf
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techart...Panel_Removal/07-BODY-Trunk_Panel_Removal.htm
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r170-slk-class/1563933-slk-r170-rear-speakers.html

 

[sosocurious]

Thanks, mammon. Great find. And pretty interesting. An investment company. Established 10 years ago. Estimated annual revenue of $2,998,760. Wonder where those figures come from. Self created? Seeing as a person can add their own business information on that manta.com website.

And 9 years later he is Uber driving? Perhaps that is because ASIC deregistered the company in 2014. And it was an ASIC initiated deregistration, not him closing the business himself. It is listed in ASIC's Insolvency Notices section. Yet another failed business. Hope not too many investors lost their money.

NOTICE OF PROPOSED DEREGISTRATION - ASIC initiated (My note: ASIC give 2 months notice to all interested parties and liquidators before they deregister a company)
https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....27935442/03eb024f-f119-4f1f-bd37-627634219993


It is seriously not hard to think that Karen may have wanted to leave this loser and drainer - once Sarah became an adult who should be able to stand on her own two feet - so Karen could get on with her own creative direction without an anchor tied around her neck, a person pulling them down time and time again.

Maybe the Australian got their facts wrong when they said Borce had left Korce International just before Christmas in 2011. Then maybe they didn't.


Talking about ASIC initiated deregistrations.
Lets not forget the Warrant Pty Ltd notice of proposed degregistration on the 22 March 2016.
https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....54396468/6e2449bc-9ac1-4c7d-abd1-dba53d6c4a67

21 March 2016, just one day before the notification papers were lodged that Borce was to take over as sole director of Warrant Brands
https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...Type=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=j9s6as3o4_15

So who did owe who? Korse owed Warrant or Warrant owed Korce.
Seems Borce owed Borce.
imo

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s/news-story/b1b9688adeee6dbd340e17d35eec2de6

 

[emirates1957]

H'mm, I have become fascinated by this image, oh boy, that driver is seriously looking like BR ..... MOO ..... but that image of a possible passenger low down in seat, completely interesting, must investigate further 🤔

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Looks like BR in the passenger seat, with the arm of his optics highlighted in black.

 

[sosocurious]

OMG! I thought you were kidding, but it's TRUE! 72 fur lined jackets! Some on here believe that jacket is not only a fashion mistake, it will be his forensic downfall!

As long as he doesn't bring out even one pair of those 200 pairs of flares.:giggle:

 

[emirates1957]

Looks like BR in the passenger seat, with the arm of his optics highlighted in black.

Upon saying that VR wears glasses as well however BR'S seem to be wider/denser than VR's ..... I guess due to the enlargement of the image it could be either.

 

[CalliopeGG]

As long as he doesn't bring out even one pair of those 200 pairs of flares.:giggle:

Soso funny! Who can do you a supply of pecan, VR he can!

 

[CalliopeGG]

Maybe the Australian got their facts wrong when they said Borce had left Korce International just before Christmas in 2011. Then maybe they didn't.


Talking about ASIC initiated deregistrations.
Lets not forget the Warrant Pty Ltd notice of proposed degregistration on the 22 March 2016.
https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....54396468/6e2449bc-9ac1-4c7d-abd1-dba53d6c4a67

21 March 2016, just one day before the notification papers were lodged that Borce was to take over as sole director of Warrant Brands
https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...Type=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=j9s6as3o4_15

So who did owe who? Korse owed Warrant or Warrant owed Korce.
Seems Borce owed Borce.
imo

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s/news-story/b1b9688adeee6dbd340e17d35eec2de6

Borce owed Borce ofkorse! He must have been quite a liability to her, which is why she probably took over financial control in the end, or did they do that to avoid insolvency I wonder? I can see how that could have caused tension. Just the feeling I get about him, he would not like her wearing the pants so to speak. JMO

"In March 2012, five months before Korse asked the court to wind up Warrant, Ms Ristevski set up the new company, Warrant Brands. She was the sole director and shareholder."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s/news-story/b1b9688adeee6dbd340e17d35eec2de6

 

[Coldpizza]

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[matey]

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Hi Coldpizza...The pics I have posted have been shown in many of the various msm articles...
I hope I haven't overstepped the mark and broken any rules.

 

[SouthAussie]

Oh...I notice that they have been deleted...so I must have broken the rules, but I don't understand why...as the ones I posted were all shown on the various msm articles published!

I won't waste my time posting any more then, as I spent a lot of time and effort on them! .

Did you post the links where the pics appeared, matey? I think the mods just need to see the links where the pics came from.

.

 

[SouthAussie]

Maybe the Australian got their facts wrong when they said Borce had left Korce International just before Christmas in 2011. Then maybe they didn't.


Talking about ASIC initiated deregistrations.
Lets not forget the Warrant Pty Ltd notice of proposed degregistration on the 22 March 2016.
https://insolvencynotices.asic.gov....54396468/6e2449bc-9ac1-4c7d-abd1-dba53d6c4a67

21 March 2016, just one day before the notification papers were lodged that Borce was to take over as sole director of Warrant Brands
https://connectonline.asic.gov.au/R...Type=OrgAndBusNm&_adf.ctrl-state=j9s6as3o4_15

So who did owe who? Korse owed Warrant or Warrant owed Korce.
Seems Borce owed Borce.
imo

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...s/news-story/b1b9688adeee6dbd340e17d35eec2de6

Probably took ASIC that long to jump on him ... from 2011 to 2014. Perhaps following complaints from investors. And if Borce didn't have his required annual ASIC reviews done (perhaps things didn't look too kosher on paper), they probably looked a lot closer at him. That takes time.

Yes, I think Borce owed Borce ... and everyone else.


In August last year, Mr Ristevski gave a rare media interview during which he attempted to refute suggestions his wife had fled because of financial pressure.

Her Broadmeadows boutique Bella Bleu had closed in February last year, caveats had been placed on the family home by lenders and Borce had sought funding from a notorious Melbourne loan shark on at least two occasions.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/k...y-that-gripped-melbourne-20170220-guh7mq.html

 

[moreinfo]

can anyone shed some light into why they were looking at cctv footage from various businesses in Coburg?
What was the link here again?

 

[SouthAussie]

can anyone shed some light into why they were looking at cctv footage from various businesses in Coburg?
What was the link here again?

I don't know that we ever worked out the link, did we? It is in the opposite direction to the way to Mt Macedon, or Bella Bleu, or Diggers Rest.

Maybe some fresh eyes have some fresh ideas?


But I think we did note that there were 3 TAB locations on Sydney Road (in case Borce was a patron there?)

They also took footage from Milleara Rd - but that looks like that is on the way out of Avondale Heights to Mt Macedon.

Police have also taken CCTV footage from a Chemist Warehouse and a TAB in Milleara Rd.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...a/news-story/a0e9b37c7c16a93375aad9e51351796a

Hundreds of hours of CCTV footage were seized in the weeks after her disappearance — from neighbours’ homes, businesses in Sydney Rd, Coburg, the Toolern Vale General Store, and two BP service stations at Calder Park.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/vi...i/news-story/48a06f47a6520f62d835f8570347178a

 

[Poirot's niece]

I don't know that we ever worked out the link, did we? It is in the opposite direction to the way to Mt Macedon, or Bella Bleu, or Diggers Rest.

Maybe some fresh eyes have some fresh ideas?


But I think we did note that there were 3 TAB locations on Sydney Road (in case Borce was a patron there?)

They also took footage from Milleara Rd - but that looks like that is on the way out of Avondale Heights to Mt Macedon.

Could it be based on mobile phone signal pings/range?

 

[moreinfo]

I don't know that we ever worked out the link, did we? It is in the opposite direction to the way to Mt Macedon, or Bella Bleu, or Diggers Rest.

Maybe some fresh eyes have some fresh ideas?


But I think we did note that there were 3 TAB locations on Sydney Road (in case Borce was a patron there?)

They also took footage from Milleara Rd - but that looks like that is on the way out of Avondale Heights to Mt Macedon.

Mmmmm, the Calder freeway way ends up connecting to the Tullamarine fwy then you take the bell street exit which takes you into coburg (Sydney rd), but there is definitely no reason to end up here to get home . This strangely enough is the route home Adrian Bayley travelled as he lived in coburg.
BR's exit off Calder freeway would be Keilor rd exit.