You won't get an argument from me, I agree with you 100%. I grew up with a prime example of nature vs nurture.
My Aunt was raped daily by her father from before Kindergarten until she ran away at 16. Then she married a guy who almost killed her, he tried to kill their son as well. Then her next husband raped her son for years before she found out. She handled the four daughters they had... after he also killed himself when the abuse was discovered. She finally met and married the right guy and he got terminal cancer a few years later. While he was dying she was diagnosed with stage 4 breast cancer. He died once she was in remission and another daughter lost a child to SIDS right after his death in addition to the oldest daughter's 2 babies that died previously.
There are not many people who have had it as hard as her...and I left out quite a few things as well.
She was a wonderful mother, I preferred to stay there and often did. Her son would have been fine without his stepfather abusing him. Her two oldest daughters are a lawyer and a doctor. Both have been married for 10+ years, own homes, cars, are very stable.
Her youngest two haven't done as well. But they don't have criminal records, they aren't abusive. They just aren't as stable. They had a bit of a harder time with their Dad's suicide and that screwed them up.
She was a wonderful mother but there was other factors...and her daughter are just different people who made different choices.
I think if Kristi had been given up for adoption at birth, to a loving family that we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I think Casey Anthony probably would be completely different if she had been given up for adoption as well.
You think Misty Croslin would be where she is, if she had been raised from birth by the Holloway family, or the Smart family or another loving family??
Yes, I think the frontal lobe was different to start with, to allow the lack of impulse control. But then there was something in Kristi's childhood that happened, to prevent the bonding...which allowed the abuse to occur.
Yes, a large part of breaking that cycle is a choice. You can control your impulses if you CARE enough to do it. The problem here is that I don't think Kristi learned how to care.
If you don't CARE, then why would you make that difficult choice?
I hope I'm making some amount of sense here.... :waitasec:
Yep you're making sense, to me anyway, lol.
My maternal grandmother was a (lots of words I can't say on here). She pimped out her kids, and then when they grew up, did the same with her grandchildren.
I think the saying 'It takes a village to raise a child' comes into play here.
I believe it's a combination of so many factors, including immediate (home)environment and the more extended environment, the community.
It reminds me of a gang doco I watched, where these gang members had never stepped foot out of their territory....How could they know that that just outside those boundries, was an opportunity for a better life?
Kristi and Rob seem very attached to their western suburbs environment, and if the majority of what they see around them is much the same as their own lives, then it would just be their 'normal'.
When I was 2 yrs old, we lived in housing commission in a REALLY bad area. The best decision my mum ever made was to get us out of there before that environment could rub off on us. (or kill us)
The thing is, I know that there are plenty of programs provided by docs and other agencies not just for the kids, but the whole family, to heal and move forward. It's just such a shame that Kristi didn't seem to take advantage of those opportunities, just like my dead-beat sis didn't.
We know that Kiesha attended more playgroup than school, I wonder if B also attends the playgroup? The other mums there seemed to only have good things to say about Kristi.
Regarding the search, as much as I want Kiesha found I'm dreading hearing news of bodies (especially hers) found.
There seems to be bodies and skeletons popping up everywhere atm....what the heck is going on?
ETA: 4 mins till 5pm news in on. Hopefully they'll have more updates then.
