Strangeworld
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Age does not weary a psychopath......... at 60 , he'll still be a psychopath
So true. Rehab and psychopaths do not mix well.
Age does not weary a psychopath......... at 60 , he'll still be a psychopath
I'm disappointed that the Court permitted, via the Defense, a strategy of invalidating any claims of abuse or controlling behaviour towards his victim by showcasing his current relationship & allowing a 'loud voice' from his current girlfriend in his own best interests.
This new relationship commenced after the murder. IMO the murderer knew what he had done to his victim - before he commenced this new relationship. Once charged with her murder, he knew a court case would eventuate and it would be in his best interests to show the Court that there is no abuse or controlling behavour in his new relationship.
The fact remains this had nothing to do with the murderer's relationship with the victim.
Lisa Harnum was unloaded over the balcony of the 15th floor to her certain death by the murderer. He was convicted of her murder.
RL's loud voice and dominant presence should not be allowed to overshadow Lisa's tragic murder or the wishes of Joan Harnum and family.
There appears to be no empathy for the tragic loss of life of Lisa Harnum IMO. There appears to be no remorse. Her interests appear to be as a 'loud' mouthpiece for the murderer.
There seems to be a disrespect for the Justice system and the authority of the Judge in the 'social culture' surrounding this murderer which is concerning.
Disturbing IMHO. :twocents:
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Her Honour must address each item and analyse whether it applies to the facts of the case, and namely, what the Court has accepted as occurring or not occurring during the commission of the offence.
So, lets have a go at discussing which factors Her Honour will apply on Tuesday.
Sadly, for Gittany, it appears that there may be diddly squat in his favour for mitigation. He didn't plead guilty, doesn't admit the offence, therefore is unable to show contrition and rehabilitate accordingly. Dear oh dear, oh dear.
I think the defence has also tried to claim leniency on the basis that the media coverage has been punitive in its own right. I hope that is well and truly ignored as an argument.
Seeing Wood's name on a placard yesterday has me thinking his little walk past on verdict day may have been less coincidental than otherwise thought.
I still don't understand the whole protest at this late stage of the game. I also don't understand some of the statements they were using to illuminate his innocence!!! The handbag for example - for me, that was very very damning. That doesn't coexist with suicide by any stretch.
I don't think there will be any discounts - beyond time already served. The real question will be where in regards to the seriousness of the case of murder the judge finds the crime lies.
And that will be where the basis of appeal will try to attack I think. I don't think he would have a chance with overturning the judgement.
As a mitigating factor in his sentencing , Gittany's choice to bung Rachel up as a good character reference was sadly misguided. She had all the insight of a talking Snickers Bar , didn't quite seem to grasp what was required of a character reference at all. Her perspective of Simon ('amazing" ) was more a window into her character rather than his.
Something odd about a bloke of 40 having no one else but a 24 yr old unemployed recent girlfriend to speak for him.. Where are the men he worked with? from his community?? his church?? ( he emphasized his fear of God ) played sports with, business partners , peers, etc? his sister didn't do much better. it was unfortunate that she used the phrase 'look at him, that's not him'.. which would make the judge wonder if she had identification problems.
As an aggravating factor, I thought it was rather neat that Tedeschi slipped in the danger Simon put every one in the vicinity of his triumphant offloading of Lisa's body. People in the café underneath, pedestrians, etc.. it was a masterful stroke, and a perfectly legitimate one too.
The media interest was solely due to the fact that it was a judge only trial..Gittany's choice. If it had been a judge and jury trial all sorts of press limits would have been instigated. He can hardly complain about it.. because there was no jury to influence, there was a lot of leeway.
I laughed a bit, too, Icu.. all those placards were stuff their $289,000.00 barristers should have chased down.
Gordon Woods little cameo appearance now has a lot more significance that it did at the time , I agree.
no I cant see any mitigating factors.. certainly no less than 20 years, that's the standard in NSW for murder. no parole.
BBM I cannot help but to wonder whether Gordon Woods' cameo appearance was organised in advance by RL (or if it was of his own volition)? It seems to be unlikely otherwise.
BBM I cannot help but to wonder whether Gordon Woods' cameo appearance was organised in advance by RL (or if it was of his own volition)? It seems to be unlikely otherwise.
There seems to be a disrespect for the Justice system and the authority of the Judge in the 'social culture' surrounding this murderer which is concerning.
Disturbing IMHO. :twocents:
I was wondering where all his friends were today, his barrister said they would be calling several witnesses today, mustn't have been able to find anyone.
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RSBM
I’m sorry, but I’m going to say it …. their behaviour is very low-class IMO (and disturbing!). If you feel an injustice has been done, you quietly take it to the highest level that you can for redress. You act with some class – you may gather more supporters that way – well, ones with any power and influence anyway.
Roll on Tuesday :waiting:
(I actually think that is pretty soon for a Justice who is meticulous in carefully documenting the reasons for her judgements. Although she has probably done a lot of prep work already, I think someone will be burning the midnight candle this weekend.)
Hmmmmm ...... will be interesting to hear the 'explosive news' advertised to be in the interview on Sunday night.
Hmmmmm ...... will be interesting to hear the 'explosive news' advertised to be in the interview on Sunday night.
I hope she is just looking relaxed (?) in this photo.
Rachelle Louise seemed to be in a good mood when she arrived at court today. Source: News Limited
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ncee-lisa-harnum/story-fni0cx12-1226819386626