GUILTY Australia - Lisa Harnum, 30, killed in 15-storey fall, Sydney, 30 July 2011 #3

[TK8895]

The media interest was solely due to the fact that it was a judge only trial..Gittany's choice.

I disagree. Sadly, it's becoming more common for men to throw their SO to their death. The media would still have been interested in this case because it is distinct.

 

[TK8895]

I get the feeling that his type of friends may not like to have their faces published in MSM or be readily identifiable to anyone.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/simon-git...-been-painted-say-friends-20140206-324of.html

'Forty-four references were submitted during the convicted murderer's sentencing hearing on Thursday, but virtually none of them conceded that in July 2011 he had thrown Lisa Cecilia Harnum off the 15th storey of their apartment in the Sydney CBD following a traumatic relationship characterised by domination and control.'

'Others referred to his ''generosity'' and willingness to give ''any spare money he had to charity''.'

For some reason, I picture this as him giving change to panhandlers.

 

[LadyBird1]

Not only a , but manipulative who will stop at nothing to avoid the full weight of the Law. Appears like his family are the same.
In this instance they have all but slandered Rathmell for getting it wrong.
Hate to think what they would do to him, if they could get to his person.
They are intimating that the police didn't do their job properly.
They have the hide to liken this crime and the public interest to Chamberlain.
Have said it before, but This Crime is as far removed from the Chamberlain story as could possibly be. (I find that reference deeply insulting.)
Regarding Gordon Wood's surprise appearance last November:
"Gordon Wood, who was acquitted of the murder of his girlfriend Caroline Byrne last year, was on his way to the dentist "
Suddenly I find myself thinking that media appearance was not a mere coincidence.
Appears the whole lot are manipulative, lying thugs, whose first interest is themselves.

 

[sleepinoz]

I was just going through the tweets in the Daily Tele article, and there was Makara's photo "lighter, lighter" - I had to laugh :floorlaugh:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ncee-lisa-harnum/story-fni0cx12-1226819386626

It's a fair way down because they have every tweet tagged #Gittany - so I took a photo

 

[sleepinoz]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/05/10/23/murderer-simon-gittany-up-for-sentence

While Ms Louise said she had previously been in an abusive relationship, the 40-year-old had "never" been violent towards her and "always wants to make up".


Seems there must be something wrong if he "always wants to make up".

 

[TK8895]

Not only a , but manipulative who will stop at nothing to avoid the full weight of the Law. Appears like his family are the same.
In this instance they have all but slandered Rathmell for getting it wrong.
Hate to think what they would do to him, if they could get to his person.

He did have an escort of 3 police officers when he was going to give evidence.

I'm still waiting for charges to be laid against the brother for removing the hard drive from the "security" cameras.

 

[TK8895]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/05/10/23/murderer-simon-gittany-up-for-sentence

While Ms Louise said she had previously been in an abusive relationship, the 40-year-old had "never" been violent towards her and "always wants to make up".


Seems there must be something wrong if he "always wants to make up".

If he's not in a relationship, he can't have someone in a controlled relationship.

 

[SouthAussie]

I was just going through the tweets in the Daily Tele article, and there was Makara's photo "lighter, lighter" - I had to laugh :floorlaugh:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...ncee-lisa-harnum/story-fni0cx12-1226819386626

It's a fair way down because they have every tweet tagged #Gittany - so I took a photo

Oh how funny is that?! :floorlaugh:

It is a long way down, but it is soooo funny seeing it there amongst all the rest of the serious tweets!! I noticed that there are a couple of funny ones interspersed here and there.

 

[Strangeworld]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/05/10/23/murderer-simon-gittany-up-for-sentence

While Ms Louise said she had previously been in an abusive relationship, the 40-year-old had "never" been violent towards her and "always wants to make up".


Seems there must be something wrong if he "always wants to make up".

While Ms Louise said she had previously been in an abusive relationship

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/05/10/23/murderer-simon-gittany-up-for-sentence


"She is not the person people think she is. I had the picture in my head that she's either an opportunist or a victim. [We think she is] deluded, naive, and when you meet her she's feisty, she's smart, she wouldn't spend five minutes with a controlling man."

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ith-sunday-night/story-e6frfmyi-1226820422702

Hmmmmm....contradiction me thinks!

 

[Marg from Oz]

sorry double post

 

[Marg from Oz]

I just spent forever scrolling down all the tweets to find it. I found it a number of times retweeted by other posters. Obviously people like it. lol

 

[SouthAussie]

Another bit of humour I laughed at was ...

#Gittany 'is the best boyfriend I've ever had' - says Rachelle Louise, obviously as a swipe at former BFs Kim Jong Un and Muammar Gaddafi

 

[FigTree]

Hmmmmm ...... will be interesting to hear the 'explosive news' advertised to be in the interview on Sunday night.

What a huge twist in timing, that show was to be on AFTER the sentencing trial. In the preview I heard Mrs Harnum reading out 'explosive text messages' & Lisa telling not to send her text messages because they are being read by him & how he had two personalities. The reporter also that RL was an impressive woman with a mature head on her shoulders. I'm intrigued with this timing turnaround.

I bet channel 7 didn't count on that.
The headlines for the show use words like 'chilling insights' - 'when you watch Sunday night you'll be surprised' :facepalm:

Gittany was seen throwing Lisa Harmun over the balcony. Which part of that doesn't the placard brigade get?

I wonder if Channel 7 now have to reschedule the program?

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[TK8895]

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ith-sunday-night/story-e6frfmyi-1226820422702

Reading that article made me a little queasy. It feels like advertising. It the arrogance:
"I think this is one of these cases where everyone thinks they know what happened, but they don't. When you watch Sunday Night you'll be surprised," journalist Steve Pennells, who is covering the report, said this morning on The Morning Show.

Then there's the claim they went to the monastery where SG spent 1.5 years...

 

[FigTree]

While Ms Louise said she had previously been in an abusive relationship

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/02/05/10/23/murderer-simon-gittany-up-for-sentence


"She is not the person people think she is. I had the picture in my head that she's either an opportunist or a victim. [We think she is] deluded, naive, and when you meet her she's feisty, she's smart, she wouldn't spend five minutes with a controlling man."

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ith-sunday-night/story-e6frfmyi-1226820422702

Hmmmmm....contradiction me thinks!

Then this is not a journalistic piece of media - its a paid performance.
I have no doubt that she has some control over over what she was asked, and what her answers were, and it doesn't surprise me if the placard carrying was part of the publicity for the show.
I can already see by the words on the placards the things she'll be hinting at when the show is aired.
And no doubt doubt Simon didn't mind the media scrum to get an interview with her - she got paid a lot of money.

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[sleepinoz]

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...ith-sunday-night/story-e6frfmyi-1226820422702

It truely seems like an advertisment to me. Surely if the info that she has was that explosive towards the evidence and case, his barrister would have used it during the trial.

I think we will only see her placard headings mentioned over and over.

And the Monastry - Oh Please.

 

[Tishy]

There IS a noticeable bump in this picture.

The frock she was wearing on the first day's front pleats weren't sitting right either.....

 

[Fuskier]

http://au.tv.yahoo.com/tv-guide/73/0/0/14/
The Daily Edition
2:00pm - 3:00pm

This panel discussion took place today on The Daily Edition (Channel 7) which also advertised the show on Sunday at 7.30pm

It appears that the new girlfriend sought exposure by Channel 7 to advocate for her convicted murderer boyfriend.
She was reported to believe that the Court got it wrong and the Prosecutor 'skewed' events to misrepresent them before the Court.
As she negotiated her fee, and exposure with interviewers, she asked the interviewers to be 'hard on her' because this would give more credibility to her in the eyes of the viewing public.

The interviewers commented on the above link that she knew what was needed; she may be adept at manipulating 'image' and utilizing media to argue her boyfriend's version of events.
The interviewer advocated that she truly believes what her boyfriend told her; he then lends his own opinion & casts aspersions that maybe the Prosecutor has misrepresented aspects of this case before the Court.

What about subjudice here? Does it still apply in the sentencing phase which is not yet complete?

My opinion only: this is contemptuous of our Justice system saying that they 'got it wrong' and she knows the truth, etc.
The murderer's case was subjected to a fair Trial before the Supreme Court with both prosecution and defense representation before a Judge.
The outcome was he was convicted of the murder of Lisa Harnum.

There are legitimate avenues of appeal if that is what they want to do. :twocents:

 

[Trooper]

what did Gittany pay a barrister for, then?? to twiddle his thumbs?? well... there goes $289,00.00 down the drain. Strickland is a highly competent member of the bar... he had good representation, it was no cheap knock off defence.. he had expert testimony from qualified professionals...

the thing with judge only trials, is.. it a teeny bit harder for both prosecutor and defence... its a lot easier to perform for 12 members of the public than one judge who knows the law inside and out and is not swayed by performance. Both Strickland and Tedeschi stated this publicly. But Gittany wanted this shorter and consequently cheaper route. It was Gittany's call.

I wonder how he would have gone in front of a jury... he would say 12 folks got it wrong.. 24,36,whatever...

He'll be gone on Tuesday... back to Silverwater then probably to Goulburn, let him sit among the sheep down there for 20 years , no parole.. that'll be the end of Rachel, too.. back to centrelink , Rache...

He has a mandatory appeal , everyone has a shot at that. wont be for a few years...

 

[Trooper]

And the odds were in Gittany's favour , really... I think , I might be out by a point or 2 but approx. 14% more of judge only trials get a non guilty decision more than a judge and jury trial.

He had an EYE WITNESS to his murderous act. Broad daylight!..