ACTIVE SEARCH Australia. Man wanted after pouring hot coffee on baby in park, Brisbane, Queensland. 27th August 2024

[katydid23]

Thus proving he is totally unsuitable to be a citizen of Australia, or anywhere for that matter.

Yes, so I am really curious how China will deal with him. If he had done something like that to a baby in China, he would have met with severe consequences from his government, I believe.

So what will China do in this circumstance? I don't think they want all the bad press that would come with him being sent back to Australia to be prosecuted there. I think China would rather sweep it under the rug---they might prefer to quietly deal with the issue themselves, behind closed doors.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, so I am really curious how China will deal with him. If he had done something like that to a baby in China, he would have met with severe consequences from his government, I believe.

So what will China do in this circumstance? I don't think they want all the bad press that would come with him being sent back to Australia to be prosecuted there. I think China would rather sweep it under the rug---they might prefer to quietly deal with the issue themselves, behind closed doors.

Maybe a report to the Aussie govt via diplomatic sources that he has been dealt with in such-and-such a way.

 

[Dotta]

"On the mainland social media 'Little Red Book',
a Chinese person in Australia who claimed to know him, broke the news
that this man has always been weird and difficult to deal with,'
added NTD Television.

'He has been working in a meat factory with a study permit for a long time. Later, the meat factory did not require a study permit.'

The TV station alleged the man 'probably [attacked Luka] to take revenge on the white people, before running away'.

Queensland Police said that while the suspect's name has been reported in Chinese media, Australian police would not release it due to the risk of compromising the investigation.

Dr Tim Watson-Munro questions that approach.

'I think it's a bit peculiar, they're saying it's for operational reasons
but I don't understand how naming him would prejudice any case,'
he said.

'Criminals in Australia are named
so unless they know more than we do I think it's quite unusual'."

Bombshell twist after coward poured hot coffee on a baby in Australia

A 33-year-old Chinese national on a student visa has been identified as the suspect, but police have refused to release his name.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[SouthAussie]

I really wish they would stop using Tim Munro-Watson for expert opinion on police tactics (as per linked article in above post by @Dotta).

He lost his psychologist license for years, and now he is some kind of expert on police tactics. Maybe he can speak on criminal psychology, but not the police.
No matter how much a person has "changed", they don't usually lose their character flaws. imo

(Paraphrased)
Reprimanded for having a personal relationship with a medical practitioner who had had a psychiatric illness.
Had lived a dual life for years that was deceitful to his profession, his colleagues, his clients and his family - and also involved sustained and serious ethical impropriety.
Found he had character flaws including lack of candour, denial and minimisation.
Said what he believed the board wished to hear.
Pleaded guilty to using and possessing cocaine, and avoided conviction.
Implicated his then-friend who was arrested on more serious drug charges.

Disgraced psychologist loses new bid to practise

 

[Dotta]

I really wish they would stop using Tim Munro-Watson for expert opinion on police tactics (as per linked article in above post by @Dotta).

He lost his psychologist license for years, and now he is some kind of expert on police tactics. Maybe he can speak on criminal psychology, but not the police. imo

(Paraphrased)
Reprimanded for having a personal relationship with a medical practitioner who had had a psychiatric illness.
Had lived a dual life for years that was deceitful to his profession, his colleagues, his clients and his family - and also involved sustained and serious ethical impropriety.
Found he had character flaws including lack of candour, denial and minimisation.
Said what he believed the board wished to hear.
Pleaded guilty to using and possessing cocaine, and avoided conviction.
Implicated his then-friend who was arrested on more serious drug charges.

Disgraced psychologist loses new bid to practise

The perp's name and photo is all over the Internet.
The guy being reprimanded by OP is right.
No need to ridicule the expert who is employed by MSM.

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

The perp's name and photo is all over the Internet.
The guy being reprimanded by OP is right.
No need to ridicule the expert who is employed by MSM.

JMO

I am not ridiculing him, Dotta. I am pointing out the facts about the "expert" when he was not a young kid, but an adult of 45 years old.

There is very likely inter-country diplomacy that needs to be observed by our country if we ever have a hope of getting this perp to justice.

Australia quite frequently has a frayed relationship with China. We don't need someone telling the public what the police should or shouldn't do. The police know what is best as they attempt their negotiations.

imo

 

[Dotta]

I am not ridiculing him, Dotta. I am pointing out the facts about the "expert" when he was not a young kid, but an adult of 45 years old.

There is very likely inter-country diplomacy that needs to be observed by our country if we ever have a hope of getting this perp to justice.

imo

The perp is gone.
The chance to catch him was while he was in Australia.
I seriously doubt he will be extradited.

Maybe if his full data were disclosed in time, the situation would be different.

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

The perp is gone.
The chance to catch him was while he was in Australia.
I seriously doubt he will be extradicted.

Maybe if his full data were disclosed in time, the situation would be different.

JMO

Yes, maybe it would have been different if we knew who he was before he fled. But now that he has fled, the police have to do what they need to do to try to get him to justice - either there or here.

Remember the police were led astray about who he was until hours after he fled.



Det Insp Paul Dalton from the South Brisbane district Child Protection Investigation Unit, said the man was now believed to be overseas after flying out of Sydney airport on 31 August.

Dalton said the man was identified by Queensland police on 1 September – just 12 hours later.
“This is probably one of the most complex and sometimes frustrating investigations that I’ve had to be involved in and lead,” he said.

Man fled country after allegedly throwing hot coffee on baby in Brisbane park, police say

Police working with international partners to try to find foreign national, 33, who allegedly poured scalding liquid on nine-month-old boy

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dotta]

He managed to flee through secure airport many hours after the attack.
But then,
he was described as "tanned"

 

[Via Marple]

This would be one way the Chinese authorities dished out punishment to prisoners... He would be so sorry if he had indeed fled to China.

China forcefully harvests organs from detainees, tribunal concludes

China's organ transplant trade is worth $1 billion a year, according to a tribunal. This story contains details some may find distressing.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[vls12345]

No matter how much a person has "changed", they don't usually lose their character flaws. imo

Rsbm.

Great sentence and insight. I just wanted to highlight it because it feels like such a true statement and relevant for many cases. Or life in general. Imo.

 

[Via Marple]

There's still a puzzling point. This guy worked in an abattoir apparently for a few years, while holding a student visa. How did he know police methods to evade capture, as alleged by QLD police earlier?

 

[seasideForest]

This would be one way the Chinese authorities dished out punishment to prisoners... He would be so sorry if he had indeed fled to China.

China forcefully harvests organs from detainees, tribunal concludes

China's organ transplant trade is worth $1 billion a year, according to a tribunal. This story contains details some may find distressing.

www.nbcnews.com

Harvesting organs from prisoners, including some who are still alive at beginning of the operation, is barbaric. In the above article, it seems to be mainly from Falun Gong practitioners though, and there's no reason to believe that the man who poured boiling water on that poor baby is a practitioner of F.G.
MOO

 

[Ellery84]

Could it be a political or terrorist type thing? Maybe he was trying to make some kind of political statement?

I agree, that might be a possibly. And interestingly: If you research the victim’s family, you will see there is some ethnic complexity there.

Mom is from Bosnia and Herzegovina. I wonder if perhaps there was a diplomatic situation or some kind of pay-back where one or more family members were targeted by this guy’s crew or even by the Government of his home country for some particular reason?

Also, a bit of an update; the baby’s fundraiser is up to $220’000.00 which is a lot for an Australian Go Fund Me. Best wishes to bub and his family. It’s going to be a long journey to healing. ‍ It’s nice to see that people are still donating to help the family with the healing process.

https://www..com/f/baby-lukas-medic...share&utm_medium=customer&utm_source=facebook

 

[Ellery84]

There's still a puzzling point. This guy worked in an abattoir apparently for a few years, while holding a student visa. How did he know police methods to evade capture, as alleged by QLD police earlier?

I think his reasons for being in Australia may not have been genuine.

 

[Ellery84]

I really wish they would stop using Tim Munro-Watson for expert opinion on police tactics (as per linked article in above post by @Dotta).

He lost his psychologist license for years, and now he is some kind of expert on police tactics. Maybe he can speak on criminal psychology, but not the police.
No matter how much a person has "changed", they don't usually lose their character flaws. imo

(Paraphrased)
Reprimanded for having a personal relationship with a medical practitioner who had had a psychiatric illness.
Had lived a dual life for years that was deceitful to his profession, his colleagues, his clients and his family - and also involved sustained and serious ethical impropriety.
Found he had character flaws including lack of candour, denial and minimisation.
Said what he believed the board wished to hear.
Pleaded guilty to using and possessing cocaine, and avoided conviction.
Implicated his then-friend who was arrested on more serious drug charges.

Disgraced psychologist loses new bid to practise

I think disgraced is a good word for it.

Dr Tim Watson-Munro questions that approach.

'I think it's a bit peculiar, they're saying it's for operational reasons
but I don't understand how naming him would prejudice any case,'
he said.

'Criminals in Australia are named
so unless they know more than we do I think it's quite unusual'."

“Criminals in Australia are named so… I think it’s quite unusual.”

That’s funny Tim has said that. IMO He doesn’t have a clue what the operational reasons are for keeping the suspect’s name private in Australia.

And it’s so ironic because his BFF’s Xanthe M and co are <seem to be> very happy to support the foster parents of William tyrrell being nameless, and yet oh, it’s unusual when law enforcement don’t name this suspect in a very complex case.

I also, for the record, think it’s a bit weird that people are saying for sure this is the guy who has done this crime - that the “man in the photo” is the man that poured boiling coffee over the baby.

I don’t think that’s appropriate. He hasn’t been through a court of law, he’s a suspect, he’s absconded and is hiding from police, but he hasn’t been convicted.

How would he even get a fair trial up in Queensland if he were to be extradited back there? Perhaps that’s why LE are keeping his name quiet, as they might have legal advice to do so for a number of reasons.

All MOO

 

[Dotta]

I also, for the record, think it’s a bit weird that people are saying for sure this is the guy who has done this crime - that the “man in the photo” is the man that poured boiling coffee over the baby.

I don’t think that’s appropriate. He hasn’t been through a court of law, he’s a suspect, he’s absconded and is hiding from police, but he hasn’t been convicted.

How would he even get a fair trial up in Queensland if he were to be extradited back there? Perhaps that’s why LE are keeping his name quiet, as they might have legal advice to do so for a number of reasons.

All MOO

Well,
He was captured by CCTV running from the crime scene.
Also,
there are at least 2 witnesses:
- Mum
- a woman who was chasing him.

Police themselves presented the photo to the Media.

JMO

 

[SouthAussie]

Well,
He was captured by CCTV running from the crime scene.
Also,
there are at least 2 witnesses:
- Mum
- a woman who was chasing him.

Police themselves presented the photo to the Media.

JMO

It would also be very weird if this "hypothetically-other" man ran to a local chapel and changed his appearance.
I can't imagine anyone doing that. If they wanted to change clothes after an outdoor run they would likely go home, or to a friend's house, and do it.

 

[JLZ]

It would also be very weird if this "hypothetically-other" man ran to a local chapel and changed his appearance.
I can't imagine anyone doing that. If they wanted to change clothes after an outdoor run they would likely go home, or to a friend's house, and do it.

But I wonder what's the evidence chain that the man who was running around Brisbane is the same person as the man who flew out of Sydney. Not just someone who looks rather like him and perhaps doesn't have a strong alibi that he wasn't in Brisbane at the time of the attack.

 

[Ooohm]

Yes JLZ it could be his passport travelling around.

This case has some very strange undercurrents.