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It did end rather abruptly. I expected more, in particular regarding the family Mrs AKA and their children. The promo didn't marry up to the program.
From what was posted prior to the episode it made it sound like RBs prize winning kids were going to be part of it, or at least one of them.

Just now I realised they were part of it, sort of. :rolleyes:

Evelyn was given a photo of them! :D

It was quite misleading, the hints etc

But I suppose we can't say that they didn't "feature" in the episode ;)
 
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Just a thought. Has it been confirmed that AKA is or was in a nursing home/respite center? Is it possible that he is in a detention center? The police escort to the court was unusual. Could he possibly have been detained due to the false declaration given when he obtained his Aus Citizenship?
Wouldn’t that be a nice development. I just keep thinking that if that were the case surely the media would know about it.
 
100% it did come from the creep.
Marion was never buying a school in UK.
She was on the trip of a lifetime about to be a millionaires housewife living in Lux, so she thought.

But the money wasn't able to be accessed as it was still under her old name so he made up some BS story about buying a school and getting back to Aust fast before the opportunity was lost.

She wasnt even a resident of the UK so how could she buy a school and the system was completely different to the Aust system and she was so distraught over TSS only weeks earlier, schools would have been the last thing on her mind to buy. She never said she was buying a school on the postcards, she only said how affordable they were. AH planted that seed.
IF SHE DID COME HOME

IF she didn't come back, then it makes perfect sense that AH flies back in early, just as he did with the other women, MB prefilled passport is onsold or used by another female he has conned in Europe, and in comes her passport showing she is back in the country, withdrawing her own money, telling the corrupt bank manager shes off to buy a school in the UK so transfer my money please to an overseas account thats never been found. But before I do that I will duck over to Bali for a holiday, forget about getting in touch with my children and family whom I've been writing too for weeks telling them how much I love them.

MAYBE the car he purchased isnt even connected to Marions case. Maybe its connected to the woman who flew in with her passport.

JMO of course
How long did it take to get a passport in Australia in the 1990’s, or details changed? Just wondering how long before the trip the planning went on for?
 
Agree. The thing I can't get my head around is how he got her to keep it so secret for so long, no mention of a new boyfriend, or even alluding to an interesting new 'travel companion' in her postcards. Her behaviour indicates there was something very specific he told her: we can't be seen together or else....?? If you tell anyone about this then.....?? I imagine she would have been excited to tell SL (friends etc) about her real plans, especially marriage. He convinced her of something outlandish that she bought into and made her scared to disobey IMO MOO
For sure. He’s got form, for this. He told other women he was a diplomat, a spy, etc etc
 
From what was posted prior to the episode it made it sound like RBs prize winning kids were going to be part of it, or at least one of them.

Just now I realised they were part of it, sort of. :rolleyes:

Evelyn was given a photo of them! :D

It was quite misleading, the hints etc

But I suppose we can' say that they didn't "feature" in the episode ;)
Totally agree.
The case has lost its true focus IMO - WHERE IS MARION - now its a powerplay by TLV and J - quiet obvious - even todays comment to someone on the FB page

It is also been VERY misleading on the MB FB page at times. That has been a constant carrot dangle for a while now.

There is a definite fracture going on between Camp David and TLV. And it isnt to do with SL at all IMO. I love how she keeps saying, I want the truth to come out and only a couple of days ago remarked about sharing the truth. This is her story and her truth and finding the truth for Marion. We are all here for SL and for Marion. AND the truth - full transparency. This case doesn't need more lies - its already full of them from AH.

It isn't a platform for mind games like someone else on there seems to love doing.

I thought the WHITE HOUSE incident found by @Kiwi1992 and @Eyespywithmylittleeye put a halt to all that?
Can't have visiting P early 2022 thumbing through a folder then say 2021 thumbing through a folder-
Can't have WS knowing anything beforehand right?
In a long and complex case such as this with SO MUCH OF IT A LIE by AH, it is a continuing disappointment to still be playing games with the public and this thread.

We know J wants the thread shut down. We know its because so much information has been found on here since 2019, some of which is only coming into play now and we know that publicly accusing WS for AH to gather intel for his BS stories is completely unfair, when there are other MANY public platforms also discussing the case with detailed information and he having full access to the BOE, and TLV itself - THERE is more information on the Podcast than anywhere else, that's where AH got the Pilot story from!!! AND MARION HERSELF SPENT MONTHS with him - her OWN narrative has played into his BS stories - AH talked about a motorbike parked at Marions and went on his ramble about her being with other men - HE GOT THAT FROM THE PODCAST NOT FROM WS - Marions friend LL was the one who said about the motorbike and it played out on TLV and J shot down WS. Australia - Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #13


MB FB PAGE /J = "The motorbike parked in Marion's carport. Yeah right. I think the police were mistaken when they sought to fact check whether Owen had visited Marion on his motorbike at this time, in fact, it was Blum using intel online to introduce another possibility. This shows he reads every morsel of info out there."
READS? HE listens, he plots, he plans, he uses the very victims stories when he is with them to gather information to fit his BS.

That may be why the cracks are forming between the 2 camps. There is only one person who wants the narrative happening solely on the FB page and its certainly NOT SL.
She is again caught in the crossfire.

Not to mention the FB page itself which is full of theories by the public!

There is NO i in TEAM.

ONE person can not possibly find every piece of information on a perpetual lifelong liar. The public must be stupid to think otherwise. When KIWI found that piece of gold, J thought WS was far too smart. So the games stopped, or so she said.

This is a missing persons case. Not a powerplay. Can't ask for years for help then when it happens shoot the very platform that has given so much information on the case.

SO many agendas on this case of a missing person that the lines are very much blurred now.
 
Totally agree.
The case has lost its true focus IMO - WHERE IS MARION - now its a powerplay by TLV and J - quiet obvious - even todays comment to someone on the FB page

It is also been VERY misleading on the MB FB page at times. That has been a constant carrot dangle for a while now.

There is a definite fracture going on between Camp David and TLV. And it isnt to do with SL at all IMO. I love how she keeps saying, I want the truth to come out and only a couple of days ago remarked about sharing the truth. This is her story and her truth and finding the truth for Marion. We are all here for SL and for Marion. AND the truth - full transparency. This case doesn't need more lies - its already full of them from AH.

It isn't a platform for mind games like someone else on there seems to love doing.

I thought the WHITE HOUSE incident found by @Kiwi1992 and @Eyespywithmylittleeye put a halt to all that?
Can't have visiting P early 2022 thumbing through a folder then say 2021 thumbing through a folder-
Can't have WS knowing anything beforehand right?
In a long and complex case such as this with SO MUCH OF IT A LIE by AH, it is a continuing disappointment to still be playing games with the public and this thread.

We know J wants the thread shut down. We know its because so much information has been found on here since 2019, some of which is only coming into play now and we know that publicly accusing WS for AH to gather intel for his BS stories is completely unfair, when there are other MANY public platforms also discussing the case with detailed information and he having full access to the BOE, and TLV itself - THERE is more information on the Podcast than anywhere else, that's where AH got the Pilot story from!!! AND MARION HERSELF SPENT MONTHS with him - her OWN narrative has played into his BS stories - AH talked about a motorbike parked at Marions and went on his ramble about her being with other men - HE GOT THAT FROM THE PODCAST NOT FROM WS - Marions friend LL was the one who said about the motorbike and it played out on TLV and J shot down WS. Australia - Australia - Marion Barter, 51, missing after trip to UK, June 1997 #13


MB FB PAGE /J = "The motorbike parked in Marion's carport. Yeah right. I think the police were mistaken when they sought to fact check whether Owen had visited Marion on his motorbike at this time, in fact, it was Blum using intel online to introduce another possibility. This shows he reads every morsel of info out there."
READS? HE listens, he plots, he plans, he uses the very victims stories when he is with them to gather information to fit his BS.

That may be why the cracks are forming between the 2 camps. There is only one person who wants the narrative happening solely on the FB page and its certainly NOT SL.
She is again caught in the crossfire.

Not to mention the FB page itself which is full of theories by the public!

There is NO i in TEAM.

ONE person can not possibly find every piece of information on a perpetual lifelong liar. The public must be stupid to think otherwise. When KIWI found that piece of gold, J thought WS was far too smart. So the games stopped, or so she said.

This is a missing persons case. Not a powerplay. Can't ask for years for help then when it happens shoot the very platform that has given so much information on the case.

SO many agendas on this case of a missing person that the lines are very much blurred now.
I don't understand. What is J's motivation?
 
I imagine Marion may have shopped for new clothes prior to her exciting overseas trip.

I know I would have, if it was me.

Just thinking about it makes me sad :(
4 large suitcases and a couple of bags when LL dropped her to the bus stop.

IF she did come back , what happened to all of this luggage?
For 8 days she wouldn't be lugging all that back plus all her purchases from her sight seeing as stated on her postcards.
IF she was staying somewhere in the UK why is it no one remembers all this luggage being left behind by an Australian woman even if they can't remember her name when enquires were made? A lot of luggage to dispose of - surely that doesn't happen much in the industry in a small place like Tunbridge Wells for example?
Her rush to get from the UK to Amsterdam to catch a flight home wouldn't see her taking a mountain of luggage with her if coming back to Aust for 8 days.

She did leave some at Heathrow we know, but how much was she actually travelling with and what happened to the luggage at Heathrow?

"4 large suitcases and a couple of bags" LL
 

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Where do you all think this is going?? What will be the next step in finding Marion?? I would love to hear everyones opinions on this.
Great question! Like us all no doubt- I like to think the next step is that someone comes forward with new information (people are still only just finding out about Marion, aren’t they? And last I checked there wasn’t wide coverage in The Netherlands yet? I’m not up to speed though) that leads to finding Marion and those involved in her disappearance.
 
Where do you all think this is going?? What will be the next step in finding Marion?? I would love to hear everyones opinions on this.

I would hope that once the Inquest has made their statement that RB is connected to the disappearance of MB, presumed dead, that the relevant police forces, internationally will pick up this serious crime and treat it in the same way as any other murder investigation - doing searches in key locations. JMO MOO
 
Academies were introduced in UK in 2000, Free Schools not until 2010, according to Google search. I don't think MB alone could have afforded to buy a private school, despite her estimates of cost on the postcard. A pre-school franchise possibly, but I sold a 2 bedroom terraced house in a cheaper area of South East UK in 2002 for £120k as a comparison. IMO this all came from RB.
yikes, well I stand thoroughly corrected. Sorry about that, I think early on I knew that academies started in the 2000s but got confused … so many systems and so much late night interest reading!

I do agree it was all a story made up by you know who and never seriously in play.

I also think that a teacher like Marion - one for whom it was a calling and a vocation - would have been very charmed by the idea of running her own little school. Even burnt out and tired. There are some people whose whole identity is based around their place in the community as an educator of young children, and she seemed very much one of those. Amidst a lifetime of personal chaos, in her classroom she would have been supremely in control. She had lost that control at TSS but as much as she’d love the life of luxury idea I strongly believe she would have always thought she’d go back into a school eventually. Running a school as a passion project rather than fitting into someone else’s restrictive system in a community where the barriers between your personal and professional Life are combusting ie TSS would have been the fresh start of all time.

(I Come from an Entire family of teachers who are married to the job! I know her type exactly!)
 
Somebody was intent on damaging her reputation as a teacher in Australia. Perhaps an anonymous phone call or letter to the school from a ‘concerned parent’ might have led to Marion being questioned and upset to such a degree she might have thought she had no future as a teacher in Australia certainly not until the fuss had died down.

She wanted a break from all the stress and upset and not knowing who had spread these vicious rumours where she couldn’t trust the staff at the school. Everyone would be questioning her in her eyes.

Marion/Florabella leave for a new life in Europe. I will help you buy your own school in the UK. We could get married in Luxembourg. I have a EU passport so working in England will not be a problem. I was once an international footballer in Luxembourg. It will take you back to your good times with Johnny Warren. I’ll invest A$125000 and you can invest the other half. Just sell your property.

We could have our honeymoon on the Orient Express. I just need to go to Amsterdam first.
yes, this sort of thing exactly was what I meant above
 
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