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Thank you Alicia, I really appreciate you being here ...Motormike too. I was struck by Lisa in the pictures I saw of her, and just what a beautiful and kind soul she appeared to be.Lisa and I
First time I've heard that expression, I feel so un-Strayalan now..
Yes BrumbyJack he was in camp when we spoke with him. We did not know that Carol was with him but suspected she was. Carol was never at any of the camps I shared with Russell in the past.
Russell intended to camp at various spots over the next few days while slowly heading back to civilization. Some of the places we spoke of were Talbotville and Olies jump up (on the Dargo river north of Dargo) as places he might camp at. So this still fits with what Carol said about being back home on the 28th or 29th.
RSBM
If he applies for bail I think it will happen at his next court appearance. The Magistrates’ Court hears most bail applications but my understanding is that if the charge is murder, the Supreme Court must hear the bail application.
He could plead "NG" by saying he accidentally shot them whilst deer hunting and then panicked and disposed of the bodies. IMOMy thoughts are that he will plead not guilty.
How he could do that if he has revealed where they are, I just don't know, but I think he won't just cave.
But he’ll be back at Sale Magistrates Court in May though, for a Committal Mention. He’s already showing in their daily lists.
In this ABC news article they say
“The Magistrates' Court does not have jurisdiction to hear bail applications for murder charges.”
Police release photos of dense bushland as search for bodies of missing Victorian campers continues
So no bail application next time either?
Nah mate it’s pretty straightforward getting into Grant off the Dargo High Plains road. I actually wondered that he might’ve gone as far up to Blue Rag to hide them, but Grant does make perfect sense if you’re looking for pre-dug holes. I reckon this guy had a decent long-handle spade on board to do the back-fill.
Those flimsy white shovels were cheap snow shovels, I honestly doubt this guy would mess around with them and reckon they were a red herring. They were found off the side of the GAR on the Harrietville side, if my memory is good not far from where the camera is that snaps you entering or leaving the Hotham resort (the one that snapped him).
So what is the issue with the 4wd showing up on the CCTV? Wouldn’t every camper and visitor need to leave the national park eventually, and of course be picked up on camera at some point?
Was it because of the direction it was heading that was suspicious?
Thank you. I have known Russell for more than 30 years through Amateur radio and about 15 years of camping together with other Amateur radio operators where Russell came along with us .Just want to say thank you to motomike for being here my thoughts are with you and Russell and carols family very happy that they will finally have justice and some closure hopefully
RIP Russell and Carol
This is the spot. I camped there with Russell twice before he went missing and once since he went missing.My friend, with whom I'm having an animated discussion about this said she saw a 60 minutes or a clip on the The Age site in which a detective takes a reporter to the camp site and points off camera and says "There's a toilet over there". He also says the blue vehicle was seen parked near it at some stage, according to the detective, but seems ot suggest it then moved to another spot as the camp site.
We are trying to work out where the camp site is.
Here are two photos - one a photo from a news chopper (the cross-hairs courtesy of the TV station); the other photo courtesy google.
Brumby Jack - do you know the area?
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So what is the issue with the 4wd showing up on the CCTV? Wouldn’t every camper and visitor need to leave the national park eventually, and of course be picked up on camera at some point?
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Yes that is the spot. we all camped there many timesI don’t know that particular spot, we always camp up near the old homestead site, but afaik their camp was in this spot. Go to google maps and zoom in on the little clearing I’ve circled. But our info on the exact spot comes from the same news images, and also being told they were down near Dry River track, which this spot is.
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Lisa and I
Yes we usually organised a camping weekend (mid winter) and whoever could come along did. It didnt always fit in for everyone and some didnt have 4WD capability so that may have stopped them coming. We camped usually in East Gippsland but only went into Wonnangatta 3 times. Russell went twice from memory to Wonnangatta with us. Russell knew the area well as he worked as a logger in the valley in his younger days and was part of the crew who put in the Zeka Spur track in to the Wonnangatta Valley.is this normal for you guys to camp without him as a group? just wondering if it was more of a relaxed social circle, so some members just come and go as they please or is it normally a formal type meetup where the people are agreed apon before the event
also awesome you got your verification, glad you can speak freely now