Australia - Shey Webber, 35, found badly injured in her Warranwood home

[Blue Bottle]

I've racked my mind thinking about Shey.

I've been doing similar and also looking up stuff about injuries which can result from falling down the stairs. In general, falling down stairs isn't that uncommon and in most cases other than possible minor injuries and short term inconvenince, not too much happens...

However, some injuries are horrific depending on many things like, for example, if you are absent minded at the time, how you fall, where you land, what you smash into on the way down as well as the type of stairs, distance you fall and at times, what footwear you are wearing, like if you are wearing high heels. Read of an incident where one bloke fell down while he had his hands in his pockets (he died with some really bad injuries).

It does seem that significant injuries, especially head injuries is not uncommon from very nasty falls down stairs with some resulting in death.... brain and soft tissue swelling where the face is unrecongisable, black eyes, broken nose, cuts, bleeding and the list goes on. Had to stop looking after a while because it was enough to turn me off from ever going down a flight of stairs again.

I would think that when Shey was found, because it appeared suspicious, that forensics would have been called in and a crime scene preserved so that would be helpful for the investigation. In Shey's case, as in many other cases, there simply isn't enough detail released publically so all I feel I can really do is speculate.

No idea what to think now... not everything is as it looks... there are crimes commited which appear to be accidents and accidents which can mimic crimes...

Not being a medical person, I'm going to ask a really dumb question, but out of curiousity, does your nose usually bleed when it gets broken? Could hitting the edge of a step, especially with your head, result in what looks like, on the surface, a blunt force type injury?

 

[SouthAussie]

Police can't be completely comfortable with the 'accident' possibility ... otherwise surely they would stop the investigation?

I wonder how much other information they have been able to gather about Shey's movements that weekend. Perhaps they have even located someone Shey socialised with over the weekend, or a taxi driver that drove her home from somewhere.

 

[they'll get you]

Wouldn't a shattered glass door be evidence of a break in to LE? Didn't LE say there were no signs of a forced entry into the home? Unfortunately the most significant information has not been released. It's possible Shey may never remember what happened to her. Recovery is often slow but some things may come back to her with time. jmo

That's what I think Lamb chop, 99.9% of household accidents are fairly obvious.

 

[Marg from Oz]

Excuse my ignorance but what does DRS mean?

Thanks for your answers. I apologise for my stupidity. Of course I know DRS means doctors but for some unknown reason I became fixated on looking for three different words.

 

[LambChop]

Thanks for your answers. I apologise for my stupidity. Of course I know DRS means doctors but for some unknown reason I became fixated on looking for three different words.

See what the world of texting does to us.

 

[Oz Jen]

May I just say, I fell down our very steep driveway in the hills late last year. My injuries were horrific and required an emergency hospital visit. Massive blood loss. The doctor in ER explained to me that bruising to the face (a sizeable cut to the forehead which was stitched at the time) would migrate down to below my neck over the next few weeks. I looked an absolute fright for a month. Face went completely black. Took a week off work. I honestly looked like a victim of atrocious DV for 2 months. I felt the need to 'explain' everywhere I went. The injuries were bad enough: the pitying sideways glances were worse. I fell at night. My fault for going for a walk without a torch down a steep driveway. My feet went uphill so every time I tried to stand up, I fell back down again. I was disoriented. Only saying this because I know it is possible to sustain dreadful, ongoing injuries from a fall. Having said all this, I have an open and enquiring mind about poor Shey. Still doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Peliman]

Just a note and needing to reconcile the report she may have fallen.

In the video in post #1 the police official describing what they found states.

"The house presented to us obviously there was some type of struggle in the house"

I'm not sure what or why he said that but it led me to believe there was an intruder. He also said there was no signs of forced entry.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Not sure why police would feel the need to not disclose some of her injuries if they felt it could have been an accident. Other information such as "police sources" and "forensic experts tell us that...." without any verification as to who the police sources or forensic experts are does not sound credible under the circumstances. If police are not releasing information regarding her injuries how would anyone outside the investigation know whether or not it could be an accident? Keeping that information quiet would lead anyone to think there is a strong belief there was a crime. jmo

I agree completely.

 

[they'll get you]

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-news-blog/police-shey-webber-may-have-fallen/20131217-2zhwm.html
Police: Shey Webber may have fallen
Posted by: Yvette Gray | 17 December, 2013 - 8:56 AM

A single woman found with horrific injuries in her Warranwood home has reportedly woken from a coma but is unable to communicate.

Investigators initially thought Shey Webber, 35, may have been attacked by someone she met through online dating sites.

But forensic evidence points to her sustaining injuries in a fall, however it is not known if she was pushed or it was simply an accident.
(pushed? Sounds like the staircase)
Ms Webber remains in the Royal Melbourne Hospital with serious head injuries and has not been able to tell police what happened to her.

Investigations continue.

RELATED: 'Possible online dating link to vicious attack'

 

[they'll get you]

It's doing my head in here. DOH

IF it was an accident for Shey to fall and have head injuries it may have been over the railing, maybe changing a light bulb, reaching for a high spider web? Or even moving furniture to another upstairs room and it topples and pushes her through or over the railing. But the reason would be still sitting there, chair,broom, wardrobe. If she fell down the stairs I think the broken bones and bruises could tell the story too. Face plant or fractures.
SO WHY SO SECRETIVE? Is there something the family are embarrassed about and wants privacy?
Ah well, time might tell.
So what if she was alone drunk! So what if she was entertaining some bloke from a website?
I think the community needs to be informed about their security.

WAS IT AN ACCIDENT OR AN ATTEMPTED MURDER?

It's frustrating madness & I'm not impressed.

 

[LambChop]

It's doing my head in here. DOH

IF it was an accident for Shey to fall and have head injuries it may have been over the railing, maybe changing a light bulb, reaching for a high spider web? Or even moving furniture to another upstairs room and it topples and pushes her through or over the railing. But the reason would be still sitting there, chair,broom, wardrobe. If she fell down the stairs I think the broken bones and bruises could tell the story too. Face plant or fractures.
SO WHY SO SECRETIVE? Is there something the family are embarrassed about and wants privacy?
Ah well, time might tell.
So what if she was alone drunk! So what if she was entertaining some bloke from a website?
I think the community needs to be informed about their security.

WAS IT AN ACCIDENT OR AN ATTEMPTED MURDER?

It's frustrating madness & I'm not impressed.

From what LE released in their news conference it appears that some injuries are not consistent with a fall and those injuries they are not releasing. With no forensic specialist named in the news article as being part of the investigation I would say they were looking at the description of the injuries that have been released and stating it was consistent with a fall without knowing the full extent of her injuries. It is hard to find "experts" credible who give statements to the media when they refuse to identify themselves. jmo

 

[SouthAussie]

One of the things that I find very puzzling in this case is the way that a fund was established to help with Shey’s expenses then, very soon after, the links to the fund were removed and there has been no more word about the fund at all.

I keep asking myself why this would be. The only thing that I can come up with is that there is something about the situation that Shey’s family discovered which led them to feel uncomfortable about continuing to ask for donations to assist.

A lot said about the fund, the fund was established .... then no fund, and nothing said about why??

:dunno:

 

[MsAnais]

One of the things that I find very puzzling in this case is the way that a fund was established to help with Shey’s expenses then, very soon after, the links to the fund were removed and there has been no more word about the fund at all.

I keep asking myself why this would be. The only thing that I can come up with is that there is something about the situation that Shey’s family discovered which led them to feel uncomfortable about continuing to ask for donations to assist.

A lot said about the fund, the fund was established .... then no fund, and nothing said about why??

:dunno:

You make a good point, SouthAussie…….that was very odd. I suspect that your idea of new info being revealed to the family may well have had something to do with it - it just makes no sense otherwise…….JMO

 

[LambChop]

One of the things that I find very puzzling in this case is the way that a fund was established to help with Shey’s expenses then, very soon after, the links to the fund were removed and there has been no more word about the fund at all.

I keep asking myself why this would be. The only thing that I can come up with is that there is something about the situation that Shey’s family discovered which led them to feel uncomfortable about continuing to ask for donations to assist.

A lot said about the fund, the fund was established .... then no fund, and nothing said about why??

:dunno:

Could it be the family did not establish the fund?

 

[Blue Bottle]

Could it be the family did not establish the fund?

As far as I know they did because the account number to deposit money in was published at the time. I remember seeing it but can't find a link to it now.

 

[Marg from Oz]

One of the things that I find very puzzling in this case is the way that a fund was established to help with Shey’s expenses then, very soon after, the links to the fund were removed and there has been no more word about the fund at all.

I keep asking myself why this would be. The only thing that I can come up with is that there is something about the situation that Shey’s family discovered which led them to feel uncomfortable about continuing to ask for donations to assist.

A lot said about the fund, the fund was established .... then no fund, and nothing said about why??

:dunno:

Perhaps her home insurance pays out for something happening in the house. Some policies cover for a million dollars.

 

[they'll get you]

Perhaps her home insurance pays out for something happening in the house. Some policies cover for a million dollars.

Oh no, I'll disregard the thoughts in my head. :banghead:
Bad TGY!

 

[icu nurse]

Could it be the family did not establish the fund?

The family did. There is a post from Nov 16th on her Facebook public (athlete) page alluding to it but the post with the account info has been deleted. I imagine that with over 10,000 fans there may have been some typical social media backlash about "mortgage" payments that tends to happen online - and as such the references were removed.

 

[SouthAussie]

Yes, the family did set up a fund, and it received some donations.

Ms Webber said her family had set up a fund - with details on her Facebook account - to save Shey's home and pay for her rehabilitation costs.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...vers-from-attack/story-fngnvlxu-1226762519283

Then quite quickly the fund account info was removed.

Before it was removed, there were useful FB comments – like many banks providing a mortgage reprieve for a few months in times of extreme hardship – and encouraging comments. I didn’t notice any negative comments about it.

 

[SouthAussie]

Perhaps her home insurance pays out for something happening in the house. Some policies cover for a million dollars.

I guess Shey may have had personal accident/injury insurance, which would pay in circumstances like this. I think home insurance covers others who may be injured by negligence in your home (broken steps, water on floor, etc).

I just find it odd that the family set up a fund, spoke about it, provided info about it, then .. poof .. gone, with no further word about it.


(It is something that has been bugging me for a while, so I've been fairly watchful about it.)