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I also find it odd that two or three grown men of 24 and 24+ would go camping regularly with their single mother to a relatively local location.
Found Deceased Australia - Stephanie Scott, 26, Leeton, NSW, 5 April 2015 - #1 *Arrests*
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I also find it odd that two or three grown men of 24 and 24+ would go camping regularly with their single mother to a relatively local location.
Yes! I had been thinking that too. Something odd about it, just don't know how to say exactly what.
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My thoughts on what happened are:
Steph was at work and he had a little obsession with her. Maybe she knew, maybe she didn't. He saw her car there and decided it was the perfect opportunity to try his luck. Not murder but to try and sway her that he was better that her husband to be. I think maybe he got her to drive him somewhere, said his car had broken down. Then when in the car got her to pull over somewhere, he made his move, she freaked out, he punched her in the face and then strangled her.
Wherever they were parked was close but secluded. He then moved her to his car and took her to where he left her body and tried to burn it. He went home, then moved the car through the night. I think just because her car wasn't seen until Thursday doesn't mean it wasn't there. We don't know the flight plan of the helicopter the family hired, it could have been in a totally different area.
I think he was seen at the school by someone which is why they arrested him. I think he denied it but they had at least one person who saw him for definite. If he had admitted to being there I'm sure he would've been caught but maybe not so quickly. It would've been easy for him to say yeah I went there to see what needed to be done, my family is away and I had nothing much else to do. That would have been reasonable.
Steph was at work and he had a little obsession with her. Maybe she knew, maybe she didn't. He saw her car there and decided it was the perfect opportunity to try his luck. Not murder but to try and sway her that he was better that her husband to be. I think maybe he got her to drive him somewhere, said his car had broken down. Then when in the car got her to pull over somewhere, he made his move, she freaked out, he punched her in the face and then strangled her.
Wherever they were parked was close but secluded. He then moved her to his car and took her to where he left her body and tried to burn it. He went home, then moved the car through the night. I think just because her car wasn't seen until Thursday doesn't mean it wasn't there. We don't know the flight plan of the helicopter the family hired, it could have been in a totally different area.
I think he was seen at the school by someone which is why they arrested him. I think he denied it but they had at least one person who saw him for definite. If he had admitted to being there I'm sure he would've been caught but maybe not so quickly. It would've been easy for him to say yeah I went there to see what needed to be done, my family is away and I had nothing much else to do. That would have been reasonable.
Timeline (please repost and edit this as more info comes to light, or if there's anything left out.)
Sunday, 5 April:
11AM: Stephanie seen by another teacher/colleague collecting keys for the classroom/working on lesson plan (depending on which news site you read.)
11AM - 7.20PM: Police will allege Stephanie was killed between these times. “Sometime between 12 and 1pm on Easter Sunday something has happened. She would not just disappear,’’ her mother said.
12PM: Aaron tries to call Stephanie but it goes to voice mail.
12:59PM: E-mail sent from Stephanie about wedding bus.
4PM: Locals allegedly saw Stanford throw the laptop into the irrigation canal, on Griffith Rd. "His car was parked on the left hand side of Griffith Rd, facing west." A gasoline can is found nearby. The spot was 6.5km from where her car would be found abandoned.
7.55PM: Aaron calls the restaurant, "The Village", to cancel dinner booked for 7 or 8pm (inconsistent reports). He has already driven past the restaurant to look for her car, and hasn't seen her at home either. He texts some friends to check if they have seen her.
Monday 6 April:
AM: Aaron makes phone calls to her family in Canowindra, approx 3 hours away.
AM or PM: Stanford's neighbours allege that they saw him washing clothes and spoke with him over the fence. He told them: "I've been quite busy, I've been working 120 hours a week because someone was away sick." (I can't find anything about whether the neighbours heard him come home.)
3PM: After calling Stephanie's mother and sister, Aaron reports Stephanie as missing.
Wednesday 8 April:
AM: Stephanie's family hire a helicopter to search for her car, concerned she has run off the road.
7.30PM: Stanford arrives home and is arrested. Police had found a camera with images of a burned body in Stanford's car, blood in his car and her keys in his house.
Thursday April 9:
AM: A Channel 9 helicopter spots Stephanie's car in a vineyard in Wamoon, 8km from Leeton.
Friday 10 April:
10AM: Police divers recover Stephanie's laptop.
5PM: Police find Stephanie's body at Cocoparra National Park, 75km from Leeton. Body is removed at 1am.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...brought-tears-happiest-day-life-together.html
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...hanie-scott-body-found-police-missing-teacher
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...297895294?sv=ed3c317c5adacff216e2cb879c26afc7
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-...eton-in-shock-over-stephanie-scott-death.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...fore-her-wedding/story-fni0cx12-1227294340843
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/stephanie...o-himself-say-neighbours-20150409-1mhkxa.html
Sunday, 5 April:
11AM: Stephanie seen by another teacher/colleague collecting keys for the classroom/working on lesson plan (depending on which news site you read.)
11AM - 7.20PM: Police will allege Stephanie was killed between these times. “Sometime between 12 and 1pm on Easter Sunday something has happened. She would not just disappear,’’ her mother said.
12PM: Aaron tries to call Stephanie but it goes to voice mail.
12:59PM: E-mail sent from Stephanie about wedding bus.
4PM: Locals allegedly saw Stanford throw the laptop into the irrigation canal, on Griffith Rd. "His car was parked on the left hand side of Griffith Rd, facing west." A gasoline can is found nearby. The spot was 6.5km from where her car would be found abandoned.
7.55PM: Aaron calls the restaurant, "The Village", to cancel dinner booked for 7 or 8pm (inconsistent reports). He has already driven past the restaurant to look for her car, and hasn't seen her at home either. He texts some friends to check if they have seen her.
Monday 6 April:
AM: Aaron makes phone calls to her family in Canowindra, approx 3 hours away.
AM or PM: Stanford's neighbours allege that they saw him washing clothes and spoke with him over the fence. He told them: "I've been quite busy, I've been working 120 hours a week because someone was away sick." (I can't find anything about whether the neighbours heard him come home.)
3PM: After calling Stephanie's mother and sister, Aaron reports Stephanie as missing.
Wednesday 8 April:
AM: Stephanie's family hire a helicopter to search for her car, concerned she has run off the road.
7.30PM: Stanford arrives home and is arrested. Police had found a camera with images of a burned body in Stanford's car, blood in his car and her keys in his house.
Thursday April 9:
AM: A Channel 9 helicopter spots Stephanie's car in a vineyard in Wamoon, 8km from Leeton.
Friday 10 April:
10AM: Police divers recover Stephanie's laptop.
5PM: Police find Stephanie's body at Cocoparra National Park, 75km from Leeton. Body is removed at 1am.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...brought-tears-happiest-day-life-together.html
http://www.theguardian.com/australi...hanie-scott-body-found-police-missing-teacher
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...297895294?sv=ed3c317c5adacff216e2cb879c26afc7
http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-...eton-in-shock-over-stephanie-scott-death.html
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...fore-her-wedding/story-fni0cx12-1227294340843
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/stephanie...o-himself-say-neighbours-20150409-1mhkxa.html
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Just as odd as the 2 or three men begging their mother to relocate them back to Australia when they were all of an age to be independent.
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Not sure if this has been pointed out, but that means he was heading away from Leeton and possibly to Cocoparra
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Thank you for putting that timeline together Angeline!
Seeing it laid out like that makes me wonder whether VS rocked up to the school and engaged Stephanie in conversation, during which she didn't pick up the call from Aaron. Then he may well have asked her for a lift somewhere and she just sent that email to the bus company as the last thing she did before she left together with him.
Hard for me to make up my mind whether that was all random or premeditated.
Im sure he could not have known she would be at school that day, but (despite it all unravelling pretty quickly with his sloppy manner in dealing with the evidence) it does seem to start off fairly elaborately.
To think, he rocks up there with presumably no idea she will be there, but then manages to engage her somehow, most likely give him a lift somewhere, he just happens to not have his car on him for it to be plausible for him to ask her for a lift, the two cars end up close enough to one another for him to be able to move her from one into the other, and somewhere in between do goodness knows what with her as well as kill her ...
Just trying to think how someone can drive a plan like that, effectively making it up on the hop as he goes along?
Either he's had fantasies of doing something like that, so would have things like need for a can of gasoline and a spot where to take the body to, up his sleeve - or it just somehow came together in his head in a crazy way on that day!
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I'm confused by that too!
My early thoughts are similar i.e. murderer, macabre fascination, trophy photographs, potential serial killer? If so, these fantasies can develop years earlier ... no doubt the police will have their forensic criminologists on this case. Where else has he been? What else has he done?
Dont worry, its only fools on here that immediately jump to that conclusion when a new case like this comes up.
Thanks sleepinoz
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRriDaHQcHo1RRFjYTu1P5w/feed https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRriDaHQcHo1RRFjYTu1P5w/feed
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/vincent-stanford/53/1b3/622
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/save-sgr-sgw #721
Could be nothing but the gaming thing is interesting if it is the correct VS
Just a follow on to this..I found a Twitter account in the name of the company that is listed on the VS LinkedIn profile..bulletproof studios https://mobile.twitter.com/B_ProofStudios
Interesting as it lists Australia as location on Twitter but Netherlands on the LinkedIn Profile..can't be too many VS's with those details?
Also interesting if you follow the trail to where the last tweet is pointing to (cofounder).
This is what could have happened:
He gets her into his car at the school. Stephanie could have been on the phone, hence it going to voicemail, but someone would have come forward by now and said she was speaking to them at that time. Either that or yes, she was distracted from her phone by him talking to her. Either that or he got her in his car and turned her phone off very quickly. She only arrived at 11am. Not answering phone by 12pm.
Up until 4pm is a mystery, but at that time he was seen driving away from Leeton in his ute presumably to the national park. She was either deceased or restrained.
It's a 3 hour round trip to the national park and we don't know how long he was there. He could've driven home that night, walked to the school and moved her car to the vineyard, then walked home the 7 or so kilometres. That would explain him getting home the next day and washing his clothes right away.
It would have been risky leaving her car at the school for so long, especially if people knew she was there that day and didn't come home. It seemed Aaron only checked the restaurant and home.
The time frame of her murder as stated by police is specific: 11am-7.20pm. IIRC they came up with that fairly early too (possibly after speaking to witnesses, figuring he'd gone to the National Park.)
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Great work Sunheart. Interesting that all links from that account and the cofounder account are now bad. Someone's done a lot to keep their privacy (if it's the cofounder then completely understandable) or perhaps it all folded in 2013? There's a back story here we don't know about.
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My question would be, "Did they share a drug habit while there?"
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/in-the-or...cott-became-grim-reality-20150411-1mj1ab.html
In the orange dust, the worst fears for Stephanie Scott became grim reality
April 11, 2015 - 11:55PM Emma Partridge.
There was just enough orange light left in the sky for police on trail bikes to spot a charred body about five metres off a dirt road, deep in the Riverina scrubland on Friday... they realised they had found the remains of Leeton school teacher Stephanie Clare Scott. Her body had been burned and abandoned five metres from a track...
It will be alleged he carried her body, and tried to erase the evidence of his alleged crime by setting her alight...
In the orange dust, the worst fears for Stephanie Scott became grim reality
April 11, 2015 - 11:55PM Emma Partridge.
There was just enough orange light left in the sky for police on trail bikes to spot a charred body about five metres off a dirt road, deep in the Riverina scrubland on Friday... they realised they had found the remains of Leeton school teacher Stephanie Clare Scott. Her body had been burned and abandoned five metres from a track...
It will be alleged he carried her body, and tried to erase the evidence of his alleged crime by setting her alight...
Interesting that B_ProofStudios website also a ".au" website. Tweets are also from 2010. Perhaps co-founder already Aus based some time before VS.
I think you're right..the ABN for bp studios and teambps show a Dutch connection as does a Whois search on those domain names. It could be totally off but it's just weird that there is no back story yet on VS...I know it doesn't change the horror that has happened but I think part of this sleuthing is just trying to comprehend 'why'
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