GUILTY Australia - Stephanie Scott, 26, Leeton, NSW, 5 April 2015 - #3

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There's plenty of things wrong with the Stanford family as I see it. I'm not excusing any of Vincent's actions, not for one second, but the family background seems tumultuous at best. Deadbeat dad abandons the family, mum moves the family to Europe, somehow things seem to fall apart there so they flee to Australia. It seems a separation between the twins was forced after they were back in Australia which to me lends credence to the idea that Vincent and Marcus were up to no good in the Netherlands. It's incredibly frustrating to me that Vincent was left alone on that Easter weekend to do as he pleased, but I truly believe that Anika and/or Luke couldn't have stopped him. They probably would have noticed strange behaviour from Vincent in relation to his stalking activities, yet I'm confident he wouldn't have been forthright with his family either way.

One thing re: the video interview footage with Vincent which has been released. In the footage he was still denying the sexual assault. I wonder if he ended up tendering this information to police or if they determined the assault happened through other means?

I think that when they found out that he had searched on google for "necro rape", they would have looked for evidence of that and questioned him thoroughly about it. Maybe he fessed up and/or they found the evidence. Maybe the condom they found gave them the evidence.
 
I often wonder if Marcus gave Vincent the ideas and egged Vincent on to do the things he did and Marcus received vicarious pleasure from it.
 
There's plenty of things wrong with the Stanford family as I see it. I'm not excusing any of Vincent's actions, not for one second, but the family background seems tumultuous at best. Deadbeat dad abandons the family, mum moves the family to Europe, somehow things seem to fall apart there so they flee to Australia. It seems a separation between the twins was forced after they were back in Australia which to me lends credence to the idea that Vincent and Marcus were up to no good in the Netherlands. It's incredibly frustrating to me that Vincent was left alone on that Easter weekend to do as he pleased, but I truly believe that Anika and/or Luke couldn't have stopped him. They probably would have noticed strange behaviour from Vincent in relation to his stalking activities, yet I'm confident he wouldn't have been forthright with his family either way.

One thing re: the video interview footage with Vincent which has been released. In the footage he was still denying the sexual assault. I wonder if he ended up tendering this information to police or if they determined the assault happened through other means?

he was still denying it because he assaulted her sexually when she was dead.. he'd been looking up websites about necrophilia, etc.. and I suppose, deep in his heart , he knew the only chance he was ever going to get any sexual activity was with a woman who was dead. A live woman fought back. Any live woman would fight back.

But even he knew it was a step too far, in front of those two normal human detectives.. he knew he didn't have one single reason that was going to fly , on that matter. And he was working himself into what he would term a sort of 'friendship' with the detectives, all men together, and he didn't want to break the spell.. he was so overly co-operative... so he glossed over it, but it is as plain as day as to when his sexual experience occurred., and that was probably unfinished, as I bet he forgot to take his Viagra, .. he had no way of knowing when he could manage to grab Stephanie, so when to take the Viagra?.. aquaintances tell me it takes about 30 minutes to be effective. ..

'He believes he was 'different to other people' and thought he had done 'remarkably well to live with people for 25 years'.
The convicted murder thinks there was no 'treatments for my inability to deal with other people'."...

I think, as a general community we have done well to endure Vincent among us for 25 years, and while there is no treatment for his problems , there certainly is a sort of treatment for ours, in regard to the Vincent's of this world. Life without parole. It isn't much, but ..
 
Well said, Trooper.

I only learned today that the sexual assault occurred after Stephanie was unconscious. It's so sad and reductive that I take comfort in the small morsel of information that she was not conscious for the rape...given the enormity of the horror of this crime.
 
Well said, Trooper.

I only learned today that the sexual assault occurred after Stephanie was unconscious. It's so sad and reductive that I take comfort in the small morsel of information that she was not conscious for the rape...given the enormity of the horror of this crime.

and that self serving statement could only come from Vincent...... and it is my opinion, that he is presenting himself as a man who has in fact experienced a sexual event .... mainly, this claim is for his brothers meditation, because I suspect the two of them were competing with each other about this.. Who would get laid first. He cant quite bring himself to say she was dead at the time, maybe because it would invalidate the goal to be reached before Marcus.. ..

he knows he is going down, he knows he most likely will be incarcerated, for a long time.. and as it happens it is for the rest of his natural life, he doesn't want to go down as a virgin... at his age, and his size, and where he is going, he has to have some sort of validity , some vague publicity about the state of his private life..

But he also knows that the necrophilia might be something that could provoke laughter and disgust , even where he is going to be residing from now on. Even lifers have some ethics, you know. not much, but some.
 
The fact that Anika, Luke and Vincent suddenly escaped from Holland to Australia without paying their bills and rent or telling anyone makes one think that they must have had an urgent reason for leaving. I can't help wondering if they are still in Leeton. Maybe they went back to Holland and they will change their surnames. Is Marcus still living with his Dad?

It will be interesting to find out what the Dutch media have to say now and if people come forward to report more on Vincent's past behaviour there. I wonder why and when he was released from the mental hospital in Holland after attacking the Principal at his school and which school he went to after that.

Poor Stephanie! RIP. I will be remembering her at 3pm today with a cup of tea and a mint slice.

Hi Estelle, here are some answers to your queries:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Stanford-killer-murdered-Stephanie-Scott.html

"... Stanford went to a 'behaviour school' in 2001 and 2002 in the Netherlands because of his 'unruly behaviour, limited social skills, limited friendships and oppositional behaviour'. At age 12 after a violent fist fight in the schoolyard, he attempted to strangle the principal and was sent to am adolescent psychiatric center for a couple of months for 'behaviour problems and violent incidents'. A report done by the facility diagnosed him with autism and 'oppositional defiant disorder'.
After he was released, Stanford was referred for behaviour management. He was then enrolled in a smaller school for students with special needs and remained there until the age of 16."...
 
he was still denying it because he assaulted her sexually when she was dead.. he'd been looking up websites about necrophilia, etc.. and I suppose, deep in his heart , he knew the only chance he was ever going to get any sexual activity was with a woman who was dead. A live woman fought back. Any live woman would fight back.

But even he knew it was a step too far, in front of those two normal human detectives.. he knew he didn't have one single reason that was going to fly , on that matter. And he was working himself into what he would term a sort of 'friendship' with the detectives, all men together, and he didn't want to break the spell.. he was so overly co-operative... so he glossed over it, but it is as plain as day as to when his sexual experience occurred., and that was probably unfinished, as I bet he forgot to take his Viagra, .. he had no way of knowing when he could manage to grab Stephanie, so when to take the Viagra?.. aquaintances tell me it takes about 30 minutes to be effective. ..

'He believes he was 'different to other people' and thought he had done 'remarkably well to live with people for 25 years'.
The convicted murder thinks there was no 'treatments for my inability to deal with other people'."...

I think, as a general community we have done well to endure Vincent among us for 25 years, and while there is no treatment for his problems , there certainly is a sort of treatment for ours, in regard to the Vincent's of this world. Life without parole. It isn't much, but ..

BBM

After she was dead, Vincent went home leaving Stephanie's body in the dark room and had a sandwich and a cup of tea. I assumed that is when he could have taken the Viagra as that could have taken 30 minutes. He then went back to the school and possibly sexually assaulted her then (necro rape) and later put her body in her car.
 
3pm Eastern Standard time and cup tea

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http://www.emergencyoffice.com.au/o...ef_cat_id=Coffee-Tea-Biscuits-And-Kitchen-Sup

Happy Birthday and RIP Stephanie xx
 
BBM

After she was dead, Vincent went home leaving Stephanie's body in the dark room and had a sandwich and a cup of tea. I assumed that is when he could have taken the Viagra as that could have taken 30 minutes. He then went back to the school and possibly sexually assaulted her then (necro rape) and later put her body in her car.

I thought of that, and he also could have taken it when he went home to get his 'rape kit'.. when he decided that Stephanie was the chosen victim, and I figured, perhaps that's where he kept the Viagra.. it also explains the need for a 'rape kit'.. he needs the handcuffs, etc because he may have to wait for 1/2 hour, and how to keep the victim captured?..
 
I think that when they found out that he had searched on google for "necro rape", they would have looked for evidence of that and questioned him thoroughly about it. Maybe he fessed up and/or they found the evidence. Maybe the condom they found gave them the evidence.

I can't quite find the link now, but I had read in msm this morning, that police found Stephanie's blood on hand cuffs and her DNA on lubricant in Vincent's wardrobe, evidence from which the Judge inferred premeditation. Vincent pleaded guilty to aggravated rape.
The police may not have released all details by video on msm; it is possible that they might 'restrict information' about the details of depraved acts by Vincent who had interests in necrophilia and bestiality.
This link sort of covers it:
http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw...t/news-story/0479316a4a423d315fb831c791ff2c50
"... The fact Ms Scott’s DNA was found on items in Stanford’s room, including handcuffs and lubricant, supported the “sinister notion” the murder involved premeditation, the judge found" ...
 
Katie Hale ‏@katie18O 3h3 hours ago

Mint slice and cups of tea right around the newsroom. I hope it is the same at your workplace. #StephanieScott
 
Hugh Riminton Verified account ‏@hughriminton 17m17 minutes ago

NSW pausednfor a cup of tea and a mint slice to celebrate #StephanieScott, who would have turned 28 today. #TenNews
Cuppa for Stephanie
Across NSW, people enjoyed a cup of tea and a mint slice to celebrate #StephanieScott, who would have turned 28 today.
 
GCTV News ‏@GCTV_news 22m22 minutes ago

Nation pays tribute to murdered Leeton school teacher #StephanieScott with a cup of tea and a mint slice
 
BreannaChillingworth Verified account ‏@breannachill 3h3 hours ago

A cup of tea and a biscuit at 3 in memory of #StephanieScott. A life taken too soon @The_NDL
 
DeborahClay Verified account ‏@DeborahClay 3h3 hours ago

Thinking of murdered teacher Stephanie Scott as I drink a cuppa. #stephaniescott
 
TEN Eyewitness News Verified account ‏@channeltennews 3h3 hours ago

At 3pm have a cup of #tea and a #mintbiscuit to honour the memory of #stephaniescott who would have been 28 today. #teaforstephhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CusuuNeVUAEcwh7.jpg
 
BBM

After she was dead, Vincent went home leaving Stephanie's body in the dark room and had a sandwich and a cup of tea. I assumed that is when he could have taken the Viagra as that could have taken 30 minutes. He then went back to the school and possibly sexually assaulted her then (necro rape) and later put her body in her car.

I'm always reading the thread backwards (from new to old posts) and now at this point I'm terrified to read the bbm above: the whole nation celebrated Stephanie's birthday like VS celebrated his evil fatal assault: with a cup of tea. Macabre somehow.

Hugh RimintonVerifizierter Account ‏@hughriminton 2 Std.
NSW paused for a cup of tea and a mint slice to celebrate #StephanieScott, who would have turned 28 today. #TenNews
 

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