Australia - Warriena Wright, 26, dies in balcony fall, Surfers Paradise, Aug 2014 #9

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Could be the dumbbell rod was why she sounded so garbled like she was wearing a ball gag while she was trying to talk.
If the middle of that rod has her saliva/dna all over it, it would explain him needing to remove it from the apartment.
 
CleverKnot said:
Could anyone have expected she would climb over the rail? Or is the expectation that the person will calm down and not cause such a scene in front of other people?

Which is the more reasonable expectation by putting someone outside?
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He was not allowed to lock her outside on a balcony. Legally it's called False Imprisonment and there is jail time for that if convicted.
He acted with indifference to her life by placing her in a very dangerous situation knowing how much alcohol she had had. All IMO.
 
Freya1977 said:
Pretty sure a bouncer wouldn't put a drunk person on a small, locked balcony 14 floors up. Geez.
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They also weren't in a bar.

What else is she going to say while being physically escorted outside? I can't remember seeing anyone go peacefully when being physically ejected from a bar, home, property, or otherwise.

There is always protest.
 
Karinna said:
He was not allowed to lock her outside on a balcony. Legally it's called False Imprisonment and there is jail time for that if convicted.
He acted with indifference to her life by placing her in a very dangerous situation knowing how much alcohol she had had. All IMO.
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I'm confused now. I though the balcony was not technically part of the property. So he didn't really imprison her. I feel sorry for this jury.
 
Karinna said:
He was not allowed to lock her outside on a balcony. Legally it's called False Imprisonment and there is jail time for that if convicted.
He acted with indifference to her life by placing her in a very dangerous situation knowing how much alcohol she had had. All IMO.
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The judge even instructed the jurors not to consider it as though he had ample time to plan and think about all the possible outcomes before acting.
 
Oddsocks said:
I'm confused now. I though the balcony was not technically part of the property. So he didn't really imprison her. I feel sorry for this jury.
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Well, he did imprison her. Just on 'community property' apparently.
 
Could just be that he was smiling at her when he said "i would, but you've been a bad girl", that might have been enough to convince her climbing was her only option.
When he forced her out there, he could have shoved her right up to the edge. That, coupled with all the comments about the balcony during the evening would be enough to scare the crap out of someone. If he stood there and smirked when she was crying and begging to go home I am not surprised she climbed. She probably figured one way or another she was going over that edge that night.

At what point did the neighbours actually come out and look? It was only after she was already hanging there, right?
 
W O W still deliberating this late at night. Judge has now called the jury back into court wonder what is happening
 
BasTyra said:
(yes, I'm still stuck on that damn object)
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I am pretty sure he was unscrewing weights. They sound... heavy and very 'spinny', they unscrewed really quickly, like he was spinning the end of something fast to undo it. What else could it possibly be?
 
BasTyra said:
Could just be that he was smiling at her when he said "i would, but you've been a bad girl", that might have been enough to convince her climbing was her only option.
When he forced her out there, he could have shoved her right up to the edge. That, coupled with all the comments about the balcony during the evening would be enough to scare the crap out of someone. If he stood there and smirked when she was crying and begging to go home I am not surprised she climbed. She probably figured one way or another she was going over that edge that night.

At what point did the neighbours actually come out and look? It was only after she was already hanging there, right?
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Heck, all he had to do is stand inside looking at her and draw his own hand across his throat. That would be enough to continue terrorising her.
 
Strangeworld said:
I am not sure where to start here. Dot point I think:

-its an assumption to say she mustn't have fear of heights because she engaged in those activities. Some people purposefully engage in fear-inducing activities - whether for adrenalin or to overcome said fear (or probably plenty of other reasons)
-I have no idea what everyone's fears are here at WS, but I certainly wouldn't be hazarding a guess that EVERYONE here has a fear of heights. In fact there would be a massive spread of fear intensity across members, just as in the wider community
-I am missing the comparison between climbing Q1 and skydiving and her falling to her death - just totally missing it
-Not one second of Warriena's final moments suggest anything IMO that she was feeling a level of over confidence. In fact, quite the opposite
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https://www.skypoint.com.au/skypoint-climb/types-of-climbs

There is no comparison between skydiving and climbing Q1 going on.

The point was she either has a healthy confidence with heights, or has a newly aquired confidence with heights.
 
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