Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - # 2

[bearbear]

i just read this....

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http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthre...ma-s-Front-Verandah-Mid-North-Coast-NSW/page3

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/me...ZhbGw9MQ==

 

[bearbear]

not sure if i can post this link? (sorry if not),
there are lots of interesting search photos if you click next or previous in the top right hand corner of the pictures
https://www.facebook.com/WilliamTyr...645642600/1487094118216586/?type=1&permPage=1

 

[kiwi50]

This case seems to have a lot of similarities to Madeleine McCann, except her case is probably receiving more publicity all these years later than poor William is only less than three weeks later.

I believe the police when they say they have no idea what happened to William.
William should be in everyone's face for a lot longer, if he has been taken by someone who wants a child
It will be easy for them to get away with it, just lay low for a while, move to a small town where no one knows you and just act normally. I suspect most of the country has forgotten him already, yet ask everyone who Madeleine MCCann is and most people will remember.

 

[they'll get you]

This case seems to have a lot of similarities to Madeleine McCann, except her case is probably receiving more publicity all these years later than poor William is only less than three weeks later.

I believe the police when they say they have no idea what happened to William.
William should be in everyone's face for a lot longer, if he has been taken by someone who wants a child
It will be easy for them to get away with it, just lay low for a while, move to a small town where no one knows you and just act normally. I suspect most of the country has forgotten him already, yet ask everyone who Madeleine MCCann is and most people will remember.

Kiwi50 it is highly likely someone has left society and living in the bush. Benaroon Road is the furthest point from Kendal and it leads directly into the bush so some lonely bush dweller may have picked William up and taken him to his camp far into the bush.
Is there a vagrant who was going into town once a month before William was taken.
I think this is a possibility.

 

[they'll get you]

not sure if i can post this link? (sorry if not),
there are lots of interesting search photos if you click next or previous in the top right hand corner of the picturesque
https://www.facebook.com/WilliamTyr...645642600/1487094118216586/?type=1&permPage=1

bearbear I haven't seen some of those photos, thanx. A couple of these pics are very well worn walking tracks.
So there is foot traffic in the area as well as vehicle tracks.
So it must be considered that it's possible people could live in the forest and could have picked up William from the property.

Sorry for the size of the photos-that's supposedly a thumbnail? Teaching thyself the iPad.

 

[bearbear]

bearbear I haven't seen some of those photos, thanx. A couple of these pics are very well worn walking tracks.
So there is foot traffic in the area as well as vehicle tracks.
So it must be considered that it's possible people could live in the forest and could have picked up William from the property.

Sorry for the size of the photos-that's supposedly a thumbnail? Teaching thyself the iPad.

its very possible people live in the forest, and picked william up on their way through, but sometimes this reclusive lifestyle is chosen because the person is mentally ill and or unable to live in society for various reasons, so if he was taken by someone like this, i cant imagine a happy outcome sadly.

 

[bearbear]

maybe police and williams family know what happened to william by now so dont need to put posters up or plead for williams return etc or put out a kidnap alert.
in other cases on websleuths we have had members who have been able to contact the journalists who liase with police, i would like to know if msm have simply lost interest or been banned from reporting any more on this case?

 

[Amee]

normally in cases of missing children, homicide detectives are usually called in immediately or after a couple of days if they suspect family involvement, in this case strike force Rosann was formed within 4 days, which comprises of sex crimes and missing persons, usually they call on specific units if they have evidence or suspicions indicating the direction of the case.
so does anyone know if homicide police were also called in on those first few days of searching?

Specially trained investigators from the State Crime Command experienced in the unexplained disappearances of young children are providing support to the many other police, emergency services workers and members of the public involved in the search for William Tyrell.

Strike Force Rosann was established to investigate the disappearance and is based at Port Macquarie. It comprises investigators from Mid North Coast and Manning Great Lakes local area commands as well as personnel from State Crime Command and Forensic Services Group.


State Crime Command

The State Crime Command (SCC) is made up of 12 squads headed by a Squad Commander, and a number of support units. Each squad specialises in particular types of crime. The support, co-ordination and management of all of the Squads is the responsibility of the Commander of the SCC, who is assisted by the following Directorates and Units within the Command:

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/structure/operations_command/state_crime_command

http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/m...vdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGNDA4ODMuaHRtbCZhbGw9MQ==

 

[Zechoan]

maybe police and williams family know what happened to william by now so dont need to put posters up or plead for williams return etc or put out a kidnap alert.
in other cases on websleuths we have had members who have been able to contact the journalists who liase with police, i would like to know if msm have simply lost interest or been banned from reporting any more on this case?

yes Bearbear, that's exactly what I have been wondering. why has MSM gone soooo quiet on this case. Have they lost interest or been told not to report anything about it? I soooo hope that it means the police are onto something/someone and don't want the MSM to spill the beans that could sabotage the investigation. I also wonder if any of the neighbours that live in Benaroon Drive are single males who live alone? I know all houses have been reportedly checked by LE but this person could have a really good hiding place and not be on the sex offender list. Dread the thought.....the poor mother must be going out of her mind. <modsnip>

 

[thylacine7]

Seems odd to me as well that everything's gone so quiet. I'd think in normal cases you'd still hear one or two stories just recapping, or saying what the police are doing, so I'm thinking a) the media have been asked to stay silent, to let everything go quiet and hopefully prompt someone involved to speak up or make a mistake once complacency sits in, or b) there really is nothing to report, and the police are simply working through the masses of information received through Crimestoppers etc, various tips and leads that would all have to be investigated, no matter how remote or seemingly irrelevant, lest one of them prove to be crucial.

I just hope they're not having their time wasted by (albeit likely well-meaning) psychics with vague clues about where he is, unless of course they're precise enough to be acted on in some way ("he'll be found near water" is just useless and so hopefully they're not wading through masses of rubbish like that).

 

[MsAnais]

For what it's worth, I don't think it's that unusual that it's all gone quiet in MSM.

This has happened in every case I've followed on WS after a certain point in the investigation.

The police would be working away on the case, I suspect - they just don't keep updating MSM all the time. That's standard procedure as far as I can tell from other cases.

The media coverage is always intense at first, then it goes quiet after that initial flurry and then, in cases where the crime is solved, we'll suddenly hear some news in MSM after a period of quiet - or another appeal to the public after some time has passed.

JMO.

 

[ozazure]

I didn't hear about Bung Siriboon until 4 months after she went missing and then I heard a 2 sentence grab on the radio news. Since then I have sought out all the news about her, so had I missed that radio news I may still not know. Given that low level of coverage, they still had 12 fulltime detectives on her case for a very long time. Sadly, nothing has come of that massive effort.

 

[Mel 1303]

I guess it is hard to keep it in the media when there is so little to report- no one can find the little boy, and his family cant talk.

 

[bearbear]

so police have a huge amount of specialist personell to draw from, all of which may be utilised in this case, gives me hope they will find little william

Homicide Squad
The Homicide Squad leads and drives the NSW Police Force response to homicide and Coronial investigations at all levels. This is achieved through the development of tactical intelligence products, policy advice and the provision of good practice and specialist investigative service.

Joint Investigation Response Squad
JIRS was established to ensure provision of a specialist child protection service to support Local Area Commands across NSW. Child Protection is offered in partnership with the NSW Department of Community Services (DoCS) and NSW Department of Health (Health).

It is acknowledged that the roles and functions of this Squad are closely aligned with the Sex Crimes Squad. As such, this will entail a close and ongoing working relationship between the two Squad
Sex Crimes Squad
The Sex Crimes Squad was established to ensure provision of a specialist sexual assault response to support Local Area Commands across NSW.

It is acknowledged that the roles and functions of this Squad are closely aligned with JIRS. As such, this will entail a close and ongoing working relationship between the two Squads.
http://www.police.nsw.gov.au/about_us/structure/operations_command/state_crime_command

 

[Estelle]

normally in cases of missing children, homicide detectives are usually called in immediately or after a couple of days if they suspect family involvement, in this case strike force Rosann was formed within 4 days, which comprises of sex crimes and missing persons, usually they call on specific units if they have evidence or suspicions indicating the direction of the case.
so does anyone know if homicide police were also called in on those first few days of searching?

I think the Homicide Squad would only be called in if they had found the body, the dogs found cadaver scent or the evidence of the foster parents did not add up. The the rule is to always begin with the family as statistics show that it is more probable that a family member could be responsible. However, they claim that the family has been checked out and are clear. But who knows if they are really suspicious of a family member. They are not likely to announce it preferring to watch them while they gather evidence. Who knows what scent the dogs found? They are two types of sniffer dogs - one finds the live scent and the other evidence of cadaver. I have read varying reports about the "live" scent from no scent found to scent fading at the driveway. Did they actually state that no cadaver sent was found? IMO homicide detectives could be working on this case behind the scenes. Currently the police look as if they are focusing on abduction by a stranger (or maybe that is what they might want people to believe) by calling in a squad specialising in sex crimes and missing persons. But who knows? They say they are open-minded.

 

[Xantara]

If I'm not mistaken, the 'father' of William (whether bio or foster) took part in the search every day. Others involved in the search obviously knew this. The media knew who he was, but just could not publish his name. The grandmother's address is now widely known. I think the 'mother' (bio or foster) was involved in the search too, or at least in the initial scramble to find William around the house with locals. So, it's not like they are totally incognito. Does anyone understand what the purpose of that particular level of anonymity is, where names cannot be published in msm, even if many people know who they are? It's a genuine question. What is the risk or the rationale? Is it about the name being published in print? Is it about the name getting around beyond a local area?

 

[marlywings]

Bumping up my post from last night...

Folks please lay off the speculation about foster care/adoption.

There is nothing in media or police reports which confirms that.

And there'll be zero discussions about the mother and family facebook pages.

 

[Xantara]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...dneys-inner-west/story-fnixwvgh-1227075685029

http://www..au/news/attempted-abduction-bay-run/

There are some crazy people out there...

 

[Xantara]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...dneys-inner-west/story-fnixwvgh-1227075685029

http://www..au/news/attempted-abduction-bay-run/

There are some crazy people out there...

Sorry, a bit O/T, but this person on the Bay Run sounds like he might have been planning to do something sinister. Why would you be running around on a warm day, covered in clothing head to toe, including a scarf OVER your face. And gloves on his hands - to stop the detection of DNA?? At 10.30am in the morning no less, on a weekday, during school holidays. Seems like he might have anticipated less men to be around but more women and children???

Lends some credence to the theory that perhaps someone HAD been watching WT's grandmother's place and noticed the father drive off and then anticipated less resistance. If it was someone like that, we have no idea HOW they might have planned to stage an abduction, if that's what happened. It might have been sheer good luck for them that William was outside on his own.
If worst came to worst, perhaps a possible abductor would not have chosen to wait for such an opportunity. They may also have been 'incognito', wearing gloves and goodness knows what else, perhaps even venturing into the yard, had no better opportunity presented itself. It may not be the case that they would have even cared about having been seen. If they were covered up, they could have just run off or driven off in spite of anything.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Imo, things are quiet because the police are working covertly to find little William, I believe they are working harder than ever. The less information divulged to the public at this time may be a strategy to weed out the 'bogus' witnesses quickly and follow up the leads that are genuine.