Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #24

[Bohemian]

Just my opinion, but I got the impression that *everyone's* house (in that small community of 21 homes where FGM lived) was checked and rechecked, likely 3 times... whether or not people were said to have been home at the time. I didn't get the impression that police had chosen the W's next door to search more than the others.

Where has it been said that the Wilson's former residence was checked more than others in Benaroon Drive subsequent to William's disappearance, deu?

 

[Bohemian]

Thanks

bAZIIINGA! Source of confusion


*BBM

Yes, was he with her in the car or not when she 'went into town to run some errands.'? IDK.

 

[Bohemian]

I figured as much, but it is surprising that if they stated they were not home, if they had alibi they were at work. Is there info other houses were searched 3 times?

They even did ceiling searches.

They weren't at work. Mrs Wilson went shopping so she said she 'wasnt home' and [her] husband wasn't home'. Whether Mr Wilson was with Mrs Wilson when she 'headed into town to run some errands', IDK. I also I don't know if their house was searched 'more' than others. At the moment, anyway.

'Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.

When she returned, the street was in chaos.

“I wasn’t home and my husband wasn’t home. The only thing I was able to tell police was that I heard the children playing but didn’t see them … I just heard kids laughing and you could tell they were little children,” Mrs Wilson said.

“I don’t think it was an opportunistic grab from someone who just happened to be here *because we don’t get strangers wandering around.”'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

 

[koios]

Checking the possibility WT might have wandered onto another property. The most probable I think be the neighbouring property uphill Because its property boundary is only a few metres from the grass area where WT was last seen. Source for this image is youtube 60minutes pt 1 as uploaded by richie, time 9:53s. I've added a green line to mark the property boundary. There is no fence here. I think that the large felled tree trunk would attract a toddler as a place to play or hide. This film is 2015 but I checked and the tree trunk was there in Sept 2014.

 

[bearbear]

EVERY one of the 21 *houses in the exclusive estate around his grandmother’s house have been searched from top to bottom twice, including roof cavities and septic tanks.
Police also stopped vehicles travelling on back roads and asked everyone in the community to provide an alibi.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/wi...e/news-story/9a64aae508a274864409ab59679af808

 

[Bohemian]

I am wondering if the reason why LE specified that WT's recovery would be part and parcel of collecting the $1,000,000 reward money is to add a safety guard so that people, perhaps with a vested interest in persecuting any particular person, cannot make accusations and concoct large stories/theories about what they may believe happened, without showing they actually know what happened/where he (or his remains) are held.

I think they know what happened to William. All they need is someone to hold the nails while they hammer them into the perp's(s'?) coffin(s?). There are probably many facts and pieces of evidence withheld from the public that only someone who had allegedly concealed a serious crime, ie; William's abduction, would know.

 

[Bohemian]

Checking the possibility WT might have wandered onto another property. The most probable I think be the neighbouring property uphill Because its property boundary is only a few metres from the grass area where WT was last seen. Source for this image is youtube 60minutes pt 1 as uploaded by richie, time 9:53s. I've added a green line to mark the property boundary. There is no fence here. I think that the large felled tree trunk would attract a toddler as a place to play or hide. This film is 2015 but I checked and the tree trunk was there in Sept 2014.

Too steep. Either went down/sideways toward road, or neighbour on Benaroon Dr before it swings right to 'dead end' IMO.

 

[SouthAussie]

It must've been Mr Wilson:

'A Benaroon Drive resident said his wife drove out of the street, which William's grandmother no longer lives in, one minute before William disappeared.

It was 26 or 28 minutes to 11am, he remembered with minute detail.

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Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre’s from her home.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...l/news-story/46b94ee67cf7e7c2cb4ba6a276388da8

RSBM
BBM

Just wondering, why do you think the unnamed neighbour must have been Mr Wilson? The disparities in time are huge, between what Mrs Wilson said and what the unnamed male neighbour said.

 

[deugirtni]

It must've been Mr Wilson:

'A Benaroon Drive resident said his wife drove out of the street, which William's grandmother no longer lives in, one minute before William disappeared.

It was 26 or 28 minutes to 11am, he remembered with minute detail.

"She never saw a car or noticed anything strange," he said.

The man spent the next day with a pool net in hand searching through a dam and waterholes, anxious about what he might find.'

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/william-t...-false-hope-12-months-on-20150903-gjenjz.html

'LYING IN WAIT

THE person who abducted toddler William Tyrell may have laid in wait until the nearby houses were empty before striking, a neighbour believes.

Judy Wilson, whose property adjoins William’s grandmother’s backyard, believes it may be more than just coincidence that the child disappeared only after she went to run errands in town.

She said someone could have been waiting for her to leave, potentially aware that the neighbour on the other side was also away.

“If someone was watching the house, they would’ve seen me leave and would’ve known the other neighbour was away, she said.'

'Mrs Wilson also told how William’s father frantically searched her yard over and over again into the night.

“He was just walking around crying. He kept asking me if there was anywhere else he could’ve been hiding here,” Mrs Wilson said. “He just looked devastated.”

Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre’s from her home.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...l/news-story/46b94ee67cf7e7c2cb4ba6a276388da8

Why must it have been Mr. W? The man quoted is saying his wife left the neighbourhood at 10:32am, but yet Mrs. W said she left at approx 9:00am. I can see the couple being out of sync on the timing by a few minutes perhaps, but not by an hour and a half? The W's don't seem to have a pool, however when i look at googlemaps satellite, there seem to be at least 2 properties which have pools, I'm wondering if it is the hubby from one of those properties.

In any event, neighbours are saying: i)someone's wife LEFT the neighbourhood at 10:32am; ii)another neighbour drove INTO the neighbourhood right at same time (the woman with the groceries); neither of those people saw anything, no cars, no strangers, no noise, no nothing.

 

[PainExpress]

Different case but relevant. It wasn't until Tialeigh's Mum started naming people on Social media that the police showed their hand. They seemed content to methodically build a tight case.

This case may take the same.

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[bearbear]

Neighbour Paul Savage was one of the first to start searching for William after his frantic neighbour screamed that he was missing.
"If he had wandered, he would have been found," Savage says.
"When I go for a walk you still find yourself keeping an eye out, hoping for a scream or a yell and not a horrible smell.
"I don't know how his family has coped, it must be torture for them."
All the homes in the estate were searched. And then searched again.
Missing kids are found hiding under beds and in cupboards more times than wandering the streets. But not in this case.
"We have had police through three times," Richard Wilson says.
"Every cupboard, they have had a look in the ceilings, have had a look in the boots of cars."

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2663210/william-tyrell-how-a-boy-vanished-into-thin-air/

 

[Bohemian]

Why must it have been Mr. W? The man quoted is saying his wife left the neighbourhood at 10:32am, but yet Mrs. W said she left at approx 9:00am. I can see the couple being out of sync on the timing by a few minutes perhaps, but not by an hour and a half? The W's don't seem to have a pool, however when i look at googlemaps satellite, there seem to be at least 2 properties which have pools, I'm wondering if it is the hubby from one of those properties.

In any event, neighbours are saying: i)someone's wife LEFT the neighbourhood at 10:32am; ii)another neighbour drove INTO the neighbourhood right at same time (the woman with the groceries); neither of those people saw anything, no cars, no strangers, no noise, no nothing.

Mrs Wilson heard the children at 9am, ie; 90 minutes before she left 'to run some errands' (at the very precise time of 29 or 29 minutes to 11, according to her husband). Pool net.

Which No. in Benaroon Dr do the Wilson's live?

'Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

Can you see their whole property unibscured from above and say for certain they don't have a pool?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...2!3m1!1s0x6b75e4504c03c3c7:0x7306659d0d514056

 

[deugirtni]

Neighbour Paul Savage was one of the first to start searching for William after his frantic neighbour screamed that he was missing.
"If he had wandered, he would have been found," Savage says.
"When I go for a walk you still find yourself keeping an eye out, hoping for a scream or a yell and not a horrible smell.
"I don't know how his family has coped, it must be torture for them."
All the homes in the estate were searched. And then searched again.
Missing kids are found hiding under beds and in cupboards more times than wandering the streets. But not in this case.
"We have had police through three times," Richard Wilson says.
"Every cupboard, they have had a look in the ceilings, have had a look in the boots of cars."

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2663210/william-tyrell-how-a-boy-vanished-into-thin-air/

Was neighbour Paul Savage the one who was mowing his lawn at the time people started looking for WT?

 

[crabstick]

I think they know what happened to William. All they need is someone to hold the nails while they hammer them into the perp's(s'?) coffin(s?). There are probably many facts and pieces of evidence withheld from the public that only someone who had allegedly concealed a serious crime, ie; William's abduction, would know.

 

[frogwell]

Mrs Wilson heard the children at 9am, ie; 90 minutes before she left 'to run some errands' (at the very precise time of 29 or 29 minutes to 11, according to her husband). Pool net.

Which No. in Benaroon Dr do the Wilson's live?

'Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

Can you see their whole property unibscured from above and say for certain they don't have a pool?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...2!3m1!1s0x6b75e4504c03c3c7:0x7306659d0d514056

https://www.realestate.com.au/sold/property-acreage+semi+rural-nsw-kendall-121436762
This real estate campaign for 30 Benaroon dr. does not mention a pool and I can't see one in any of the pictures. Having said that, the garden may have a pond that a pool scoop is used on.
I agree about the sentence describing what Judy Wilson did that morning. It always seemed so precise but it can mean that she heard the children 90 minutes before she left to do messages in town. MOO

 

[deugirtni]

Mrs Wilson heard the children at 9am, ie; 90 minutes before she left 'to run some errands' (at the very precise time of 29 or 29 minutes to 11, according to her husband). Pool net.

Which No. in Benaroon Dr do the Wilson's live?

'Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

Can you see their whole property unibscured from above and say for certain they don't have a pool?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/48+Benaroon+Dr,+Kendall+NSW+2439,+Australia/@-31.639709,152.6955674,16z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x6b75e4504c03c3c7:0x7306659d0d514056

'Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre’s from her home.'
( http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...k=2eb115e9f27d297694279db40c05f453-1474418036 )

To me, Mrs. W is saying that she left her home at approx 9am (90 minutes before WT disappeared, and we're told he disappeared at 10;25am-10:30am), and that Mrs. W heard young children playing in the yard prior to when she left, so earlier than 9am.

The W's lived at #30 Benaroon.

From this picture (first one below) that Makara made a long time ago, there is no pool at #30, and there is no mention of a pool in the realty listings online for that property. It does however, appear there is a pool located at #27(?). Also looks like there is a pool at 16 Benaroon. And if I'm not mistaken (I could be), I think I saw another one in an overhead view somewhere on Ellendale. Please note that the 4th picture below has the wrong house #s on them. The middle 2 pictures show the house numbers on the streets. (even the house numbers have discrepancies!!!!!!!!!!)

 

[koios]

Mrs Wilson heard the children at 9am, ie; 90 minutes before she left 'to run some errands' (at the very precise time of 29 or 29 minutes to 11, according to her husband). Pool net.

Which No. in Benaroon Dr do the Wilson's live?

'Judy Wilson, whose fence sits just 10m from where William was taken, heard him and his sister playing earlier that morning before she headed into town to run some errands.'

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

Can you see their whole property unibscured from above and say for certain they don't have a pool?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place...2!3m1!1s0x6b75e4504c03c3c7:0x7306659d0d514056

After reading that telegraph article I did some research and can say the W's definitely were 30.

 

[SouthAussie]

'Mrs Wilson said she heard the two children playing in the neighbouring yard before she left to run errands in the township about 90 minutes before William disappeared, just metre’s from her home.'
( http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...k=2eb115e9f27d297694279db40c05f453-1474418036 )

To me, Mrs. W is saying that she left her home at approx 9am (90 minutes before WT disappeared, and we're told he disappeared at 10;25am-10:30am), and that Mrs. W heard young children playing in the yard prior to when she left, so earlier than 9am.

That is how I read it too, by the sentence structure.
I think if she left at around 10:30, MSM would have specifically said that. As they did with the neighbour who was unloading groceries at around 10:30. They quoted that neighbour's complete timeline, as they did Mrs Wilson's. Everyone knows around 10:30 is the pivotal time.

"Judy Wilson ..... When she returned, the street was in chaos."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...r/news-story/03fb14d003bfb73d3c193b5f6731f74c

 

[bearbear]

A neighbour on the street told Daily Mail Australia he met William's father who was 'searching through the backyards heartbroken and frantic'.
The neighbour said that while he has lived on the street for seven years he did not know William or the boy's parents. He had however met the woman who lived in the house where William disappeared from.
'The boy came up from Sydney to visit a lady in the house,' he explained.

'It's been pretty full on. I've been here the whole time, people have been pouring through our back yards. I really hope he's found soon.
'Everyone in the street has been interviewed. It's really horrible,' he added.
The man said there hasn't been 'one burglary or incident' on the street the whole time he has lived there.
'It is a quiet peaceful area and it has been turned upside down.'
'When I heard I was on my ride on mower and saw a police car. Someone came running down the street. They said someone had just lost a kid. I took my dog for a walk and had a look for him. I wish he was found on the first day.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2760087/Police-believe-William-Tyrell-3-picked-car-crews-preparing-search-roads-nearby-forest-hope-finding-alive-fades.html

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[koios]

Too steep. Either went down/sideways toward road, or neighbour on Benaroon Dr before it swings right to 'dead end' IMO.

From deck of 48 it is steep uphill to 52 house, but I think only slightly uphill to the felled tree (route is almost parallel to the contours on sixmaps).