This is slightly off topic, but my cousins now ex wife lived a couple of doors down from Fred and rose west in the late 80's - early 90's. She NEVER suspected a thing and would knock on their door every now and then to borrow milk/sugar in winter when it was too cold to walk to the shops. After they were arrested she said on more than one occasion her and the neighbours had heard digging in their back yard at random times, and they literally thought nothing of it until they later realised that it was Fred burying the victims! My point is, you really just never know and I remember Keisha Abrams cousin being on FB shouting people down and protesting the mothers innonce and she soon ate her words!