Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #52

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sosocurious said:
... The point being PS lied in the official police interview on the 16 August. When he was told just 2 weeks later on the 5th October, that there were photo's of him stopping near the suit and he was left to think about things. He started muttering about white top....all recorded by the surveillance in the home. The next day he phoned Jubes personally to correct his version, which is also recorded. I am wondering how long before the recording on the 5th were reviewed.
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Warshawski said:
sorry SoSo - just checking the calculations of 2 weeks from 16th Aug to 5th October :) <snipped>
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sosocurious said:
Sorry 3 weeks or 20 days, fat fingers.:)
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deugirtni said:
August 16th to October 5th seems about 10 days shy of 2 months to me?
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musicaljoke said:
Don't forget about September. Heh. :)
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I started wondering if Aus has the month of September on its calendar.. but then I remembered September is the month when W disappeared. j/k :)
 
Even though PS Viagra purchase likely has nothing to do with Williams's disappearance.

What I want to know is,

They said that the FF was clocked at the chemist filling a prescription. Didn't say what for.

But they said that PS had purchased viagra.
Why did they not just say he had purchased or filled a prescription?

It is something the person needs a script for from a doctor which means it is then doctor-patient confidentiality. So why did they feel the need to broadcast it?

Does this change if PS actually advised police he purchased it 3 days earlier himself? Could they then report announce it in open court and then have MSM report on it?

If PS didn't tell police how would they have found out? If he used a card at a chemist fair enough if he paid cash? Did they visit local chemists to find any info on his medications usage etc? Dis they consult his doctor when they had warrants in place?

I just dont get why they have announced this viagra thing unless there is some reasoning to do with William or his behavior behind it.
 
mussopossum said:
Even though PS Viagra purchase likely has nothing to do with Williams's disappearance.

What I want to know is,

They said that the FF was clocked at the chemist filling a prescription. Didn't say what for.

But they said that PS had purchased viagra.
Why did they not just say he had purchased or filled a prescription?

It is something the person needs a script for from a doctor which means it is then doctor-patient confidentiality. So why did they feel the need to broadcast it?

Does this change if PS actually advised police he purchased it 3 days earlier himself? Could they then report announce it in open court and then have MSM report on it?

If PS didn't tell police how would they have found out? If he used a card at a chemist fair enough if he paid cash? Did they visit local chemists to find any info on his medications usage etc? Dis they consult his doctor when they had warrants in place?

I just dont get why they have announced this viagra thing unless there is some reasoning to do with William or his behavior behind it.
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Or... GJ wants the public to believe it had something to do with W's case. ?

Lots of questions, not so many answers, hey?
 
SouthAussie said:
Seems to me that FM was told pretty clearly that the case was being moved to unsolved homicides.
I also recall Caroline Overington stating in one of her articles that the inquest is the last stop before the case goes to a cold case.

I think the only hope that William has for justice is if the Coroner can compel some incriminating testimony. There are other serious crimes being committed daily, and I would (very sadly) not be at all surprised if - when the current OIC soon retires - Rosann is disbanded.
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Yes, but hopefully not yet. I am truly hoping the investigation has been ongoing - from Jube's retirement and until the inquest. It should be. I wouldn't be surprised either if Rossann is dismantled after the inquest - which is very sad
 
The media reporting GJ's case requested files be released to the media and within the files was information about PS purchasing Viagra. Really this should have been redacted imo

Just a thought though...

As Viagra is used for other conditions could he have purchased it for his brother who he was travelling to Casino to spend time with? The timing fits.
 
Blues Clues said:
More than likely TGY. I'm not convinced they are investigating the right neighbour though.

From the linked case it appears the murderer has moved the body to a place already searched? I hope I've understood that correctly. I feel Rosann would have also been covering the possibility of this tactic during the forensic search.
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Yes, in the linked case the body was moved. Another case where body found in area already searched;
Body found in search for missing Irish teenager is that of Nóra Quoirin
I 'd say Strike Force Rosann recovered ground already searched as initially looking for little boy lost,possibly moving. Imo.
 
gaeilge said:
Yes, in the linked case the body was moved. Another case where body found in area already searched;
Body found in search for missing Irish teenager is that of Nóra Quoirin
I 'd say Strike Force Rosann recovered ground already searched as initially looking for little boy lost,possibly moving. Imo.
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Missing girl in US was killed by neighbour hours after abduction, authorities say
So Police had already searched the house of the Killer of this little girl and found nothing.... on a subsequent visit they found a rainboot in the trash....

The initial house searches in William's case didn't appear to be thorough searches either...… eg the owl and the dust, Roller doors considered too heavy for him to lift .... etc
I know they searched the neighborhood houses 3 times … but how thoroughly were they done?? And as initial searches weren't that intense it would have definitely given a window of opportunity to move William.....
Not saying this happened but certainly could have been a similar scenario ….
 
Blues Clues said:
The media reporting GJ's case requested files be released to the media and within the files was information about PS purchasing Viagra. Really this should have been redacted imo

Just a thought though...

As Viagra is used for other conditions could he have purchased it for his brother who he was travelling to Casino to spend time with? The timing fits.
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Yes BC... It was used as "sensationalism" to generate interest in the story..... especially as there is no other mention of how it was relevant to the case..... an invasion of privacy....
 
peekinandy said:
Yes, but hopefully not yet. I am truly hoping the investigation has been ongoing - from Jube's retirement and until the inquest. It should be. I wouldn't be surprised either if Rossann is dismantled after the inquest - which is very sad
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I have faith that Laidlaw/ and the Team are working with the Coroner behind the scenes while the inquests are in progress...

If the Coroner concludes that nothing significant has been unearthed by the Inquest, then I also feel that ROSSAN will be closed...….
Or Maybe the Coroner will advise NSW Police to continue the case????If she feels there are indeed further matters that require investigation??? Here's hoping....
 
Is this breaking news? Ray Hadley just mentioned on radio 2GB (11.16am 19th Feb) that Police have confirmed there is a search at the moment north of Kendall NSW. He did mention it may be in relation to William. No links yet.
 
Has anyone read about the Jacob Wetterling (Minnesota) case? He was an 11 yr old boy who was abducted in 1989 while he was with his 2 friends.
In 2015, his abductor/killer, Danny Heinrich was named a POI after a match of a DNA sample taken in 1989 to another victim, who he sexually assaulted months before Jacob's abduction. The statute of limitations had expired but he was charged and sentenced to prison for child *advertiser censored* found in his house. Heinrich decided to cooperate with authorities as part of a plea bargain and, on September 1, 2016, led investigators to Jacob Wetterling's burial site.

The investigation was bungled from the start, Heinrich was one of the first interviewed in 1989 and said he couldn't recall where he was on that day and he was released. He was re-interviewed in 1990 after being linked to the sexual assault victim, he emphatically stated he was innocent, got an attorney and was released.
It took 27 years to get this man. It was the re-opening of Jacob's file and fresh eyes looking at evidence and suspects to catch him.

I thought this was relevant in that investigators don't always agree and it can have dire consequences when the suspect was right under their nose the whole time. Maybe, the person responsible for William's abduction hasn't been interviewed but the chances that they have are extremely great, imo.

In Jacob's case, there were child witnesses and it still took 27 years to apprehend the guilty man, so William's is a million times harder to investigate! Is there a witness who won't talk? Did an odd job man enter the street looking for work? Someone surely would know, like a partner or a friend. Was there an accident? There's not always blood at the scene if the body is removed quickly, there'd be massive internal bleeding resulting in instant death.

Jubelin followed his gut instincts, rightly or wrongly, but having one or two investigators who didn't agree about the POI isn't a good gauge that Jubelin was/is on the wrong track, history tells us otherwise. Who are their other suspects? Are they following up every lead or because the boss says it's a lost cause, they gave up. jmo
 
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