Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #58

[misty48]

In Australia, what normally happens to a foster child if the foster parents separate?

 

[Deleted member 161976]

Home Affairs Minister Karen Andrews said the AFP specialist unit would join the search on Wednesday morning.

“Today there are specialists from the AFP forensics unit that have been deployed to Kendall and they will start a very targeted search of several key locations today,” she told 4BC.

AFP to join search for William Tyrrell

The AFP will be using specialist forensic equipment, similar to the WA CS case recently, as per the audio in link
Specialist AFP officers deployed to assist William Tyrrell investigation - 4BC

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Hang on. If the time stamp on the photo was showing approx 2 hours late and it was actually taken at 7:39am, that means FD was still at home before he went out in the car. Yet only FM is under suspicion, right?

What on earth is going on?!

 

[Trivento]

This is something I can't get my head around, it just doesn't make sense. Years down the track she is very vocal (and passionately so!) about the possibility of William's case being shelved. Surely a guilty person would want the case to fade away, especially after 5 years or so. I hope NSW Police know what they're doing!

Also having again watched the 60 Minutes feature from years back (with Foster Parents interview ) …if FM is guilty of something here she did surely one of the finest pieces of acting in history there ..! Forget any awards given to actors to date..!
To me she sounds genuine and convincing , so will be an unpleasant surprise if she is involved .
Think it’s important to keep an open mind until someone is charged…
What has become of the theory from acquaintance of FA ( recent 7 News Doc. ) who thought FA 100% guilty ?
Has FA now been officially ruled out ?

 

[SouthAussie]

They are saying (on Ch7 morning news) that the FP have emerged from their house.

"They haven't said anything, because no doubt they have legally been advised not to."

"They would know they have been under intense pressure for the last year."

 

[bearbear]

if william fell off the balcony fm may have panicked and quickly hid his body in fgms car boot and locked it,
and then the lie escalated to more lies, and then it became easy,
reasons to conceal his death could be signs of past abuse on his body, drugs in his system, fears ff would be angry and leave, social stigma, losing his sister, guilt etc

 

[Violet77]

If she really is guilty then I think she must also be absolutely crazy for the way she bashes the police & their investigation in the podcast episode “Breaking Point”. I absolutely understand that if she were guilty, she would definitely want Jubes on the case still as he was not looking at her, but to basically publicly shame them like that for not solving the case… what

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Yes, it's a very tragic case, he's a monster! But, Tialeigh's body was found 6 days after her foster family reported her missing.

True, but you wonder what short life William has had with his foster parents, not to mention his sister

 

[Violet77]

if william fell off the balcony fm may have panicked and quickly hid his body in fgms car boot and locked it,
and then the lie escalated to more lies, and then it became easy,
reasons to conceal his death could be signs of past abuse on his body, drugs in his system, fears ff would be angry and leave, social stigma, losing his sister, guilt etc

I must admit, the “signs of past abuse” motivation crossed my mind as well,
<modsnip> to cover up an accident if that’s what’s happened, there has to be a hell of a reason for that I would think

 

[dragon52]

Also having watched the 60 Minutes feature from years back (with Foster Parents interview ) again…if FM is guilty of something here she did surely one of the finest pieces of acting in history there ..! Forget any awards given to actors to date..!
To me she sounds genuine and convincing , so will be an unpleasant surprise if she is involved .
Think it’s important to keep an open mind until someone is charged…
What has become of the theory from aquaintance of FA ( recent 7 News Doc. ) who thought FA 100% guilty ?
Has FA now been officially ruled out ?

Interesting. I didn’t think she sounded convincing at all. I remember thinking that she sounded cold and something just wasn’t right at the time. I thought the husband sounded genuinely upset and very convincing at the time.

 

[Deleted member 293720]

By the photos the balcony railing would provide some difficulty for a little boy to want to climb over and why would he want to climb over knowing he would fall and he could easily go out the door to get to the yard ?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Arrest in William Tyrrell case could come 'sooner rather than later'

"He said it was difficult to know "how much more they're going to be doing in this garden, how much more sifting of the soil around the house, what they're going to look for in the house ... they have been in the roof cavities, they've been all over the place."

 

[Trivento]

Interesting. I didn’t think she sounded convincing at all. I remember thinking that she sounded cold and something just wasn’t right at the time. I thought the husband sounded genuinely upset and very convincing at the time.

That’s fair enough…everyone perceives things in their own way…

 

[Cleaver Greene]

Yes.

Cleaver, would NSW coronial directions/orders supersede need for regular warrant?

Or, is it possible the Granddaughter willingly handed over vehicle/new owners of house complied with a request for more searches?

If the Coroner makes orders, there is no need for a warrant. There needs to be “reasonable suspicion” for a warrant/order. So the Coroner would have had more than just a new version of events from the daughter.

If there is no reasonable suspicion, then any evidence can’t be used in criminal proceedings, so I think the Coroner would not have made the order lightly.

 

[Violet77]

By the photos the balcony railing would provide some difficulty for a little boy to want to climb over and why would he want to climb over knowing he would fall and he could easily go out the door to get to the yard ? View attachment 322437

He could have been looking for his Father’s car, climbing up to get a better view, who knows the thinkings of a three year old boy hyped up on excitement & pretending to be his favourite superhero

 

[EllaN1]

NSW Police seize car as new search for William Tyrrell’s body enters third day
channel 7 news

Channel 7 filmed both FP's (heavily blurred)getting into their car in Sydney this morning. I am assuming they are still together unless they are just living together as a separated couple.

 

[drsleuth]

Did the FM say she drove down to the riding school in her search for WT in that 10.30 - 10.53am time period or later, after police were called and everyone was helping with the search?

I think she said she drove off then turned around when she got to the riding school and couldn’t find William so came back to the house and rang the police

Have you got a link for that please?
I was also wondering at what stage she drove in car, was it before or after MFC arrived back.

According to what FFC said in the 000 call at 10.53:

• William went missing 5 minutes beforehand, but she says that he could have actually been missing 10-15 but she’s unsure.
• She also said she had been up and down the road looking for him but couldn’t find him.
• There were no suspicious cars on the road.

There was no mention of getting in car to look for him. She said she only noticed him missing 5 minutes before the call. So if at some later date, she said she had driven looking for him before the call, which I agree that she allegedly must have before the police arrived, then her story is completely inconsistent.

In that case, I’m horrified that police didn’t do their due diligence at all and the lead investigators need to be investigated.

From my very worn flicked thru & tattered notes, the FFC went in the FGM's car down Batar Creek Rd before the first police arrived ( Snr Const Rowley ) so before the 000 call & before MFC arrived home...........
EDITED to add after I re-read my notes it was before the 000 call

 

[PolyDot]

Listened to channel 10 podcast - specifically the interview with foster parents. Foster mum very articulate and connected ? What is her profession … she sounds quite persuasive.. I am guessing that police found them very credible from the beginning

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Police are looking to see if the car was used to transport William's body to another location Police seize car belonging to William Tyrrell's foster grandmother for forensic examination | Daily Mail Online

 

[Deleted member 293720]

Police are looking to see if the car was used to transport William's body to another location Police seize car belonging to William Tyrrell's foster grandmother for forensic examination | Daily Mail Online